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Gift horse that bites back...

7 posts by 5 people · 18 Mar 1999 - 22 Mar 1999

Jan Kohl 18 Mar 1999#456732
Now who's insulting who here? We go out and I ask all the guys at The Pits to 'keep an eye out' so we can get stuck in to SCGT as soon as possible. I spend about an hour downloading it, then go and race it for 2 hours while the demo is uploading to The Pits, testing out as many different options as I can, as a good reviewer should. I figure that I might as well get a review up as soon as possible so others can see what I thought of it, and then spend another hour writing up the review, adding the pictures, posting it and the demo, only to have GA Sports to tell me (within 20 minutes, I might add) that I have to remove the link to the demo because they 'own' it for another 12 hours. I *like* the demo. I think it's great. And many of the people who have emailed me about it (and posted here) like it too...what, are they all paid by EA? Is this the *** of the year in sim racing? Sure, there are problems...it's a DEMO. Image Space has told us at The Pits they want to see feedback, they want to work with the consumer...what more do you want? A tech rep at your house? Whether they live up to it or not remains to be seen, but they are making the effort, so I'm more than happy to help a decent demo to become a great sim... Then YOU come along, don't agree with my review, insult my 'opinion' AND my website, and throw it all out to 'corperate influence'. FYI, we have had emails between us and Image Space, but they pay us nothing, we get no nice handouts from them, nor do we have any contacts with EA. If this is your attitude to someone who does all this for FREE, well, get a grip. Never look a gift horse in the mouth, as they say, and obviously, you were expecting a pedigree. ??Jan Kohl?? **The Pits Performance Team** Computer Systems Programmer USAF Air-Ground Operations School Hurlburt Field, FL Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com/ The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com/ >I just read that review again, I still can't believe he is talking about the
Quoted text (9 lines)>same demo. I feel insulted I thought we could only expect the BS hype from >the game companies, now some reviewers are trying to waste my money. I will >never go back to that website again, >-- >Kevin Anderson >ICQ # 6769389
Jan Kohl 19 Mar 1999#456944
Thanks, rrevved...you mean there IS a heaven for overworked webmeisters? ;] And all this time I thought the afterlife would be St. Peter asking me to rewrite Microsoft's entire website using Window's Notepad and Paintbrush... ;] Cheers! ??Jan Kohl?? **The Pits Performance Team** Computer Systems Programmer USAF Air-Ground Operations School Hurlburt Field, FL Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com/ The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com/ >On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 21:42:50 -0600, >>If this is your attitude to someone who does all this for FREE, well, get a
Quoted text (8 lines)>>grip. >Jan, remember, ...... no good deed goes unpunished. >Thanks for the review! >-- >// rrevved posts from mindspring dot com
Ken Beard 20 Mar 1999#457098
I think that would be an improvement over the current MS site at least - you might find something quicker :-) I'd like to say Jan, that I've always loved The Pits and am sorry to see so many people giving you static over the SCGT bit, and other stuff. Sucks to give so much to the simracing community over the years and get accused of bias, being paid off, etc. when your opinion doesn't match someone else's. Keep up the good work, some of us appreciate it a lot ! -- Ken "If I went 'round claiming I was Emperor because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away" - anonymous peasant Go #43 and #44! volksy (at) geocities (dot) com volksy (at) yahoo (dot) com >Thanks, rrevved...you mean there IS a heaven for overworked webmeisters? ;] >And all this time I thought the afterlife would be St. Peter asking me to >rewrite >Microsoft's entire website using Window's Notepad and Paintbrush... ;] >Cheers! >??Jan Kohl?? **The Pits Performance Team** >Computer Systems Programmer >USAF Air-Ground Operations School >Hurlburt Field, FL >Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com/ >The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com/ >>On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 21:42:50 -0600, >>>If this is your attitude to someone who does all this for FREE, well, get >a >>>grip. >>Jan, remember, ...... no good deed goes unpunished. >>Thanks for the review! >>-- >>// rrevved posts from mindspring dot com
Pat 20 Mar 1999#457099
Jan, I do appreciate all of the work you and the Pits have done for Sim racing. Frankly I don't know why you do it especially when you get all this garbage from people out there. Keep up the good work, please. Pat
Quoted text (32 lines)> Thanks, rrevved...you mean there IS a heaven for overworked webmeisters? ;] > And all this time I thought the afterlife would be St. Peter asking me to > rewrite > Microsoft's entire website using Window's Notepad and Paintbrush... ;] > Cheers! > ??Jan Kohl?? **The Pits Performance Team** > Computer Systems Programmer > USAF Air-Ground Operations School > Hurlburt Field, FL > Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com/ > The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com/ > >On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 21:42:50 -0600, > >>If this is your attitude to someone who does all this for FREE, well, get > a > >>grip. > >Jan, remember, ...... no good deed goes unpunished. > >Thanks for the review! > >-- > >// rrevved posts from mindspring dot com
Hi Jan, There have been some rather hotheaded and abusive people*** out in r.a.s. in the last few months, with threats of mailbombing and viruses floating around and all, and even in VROC with rail-riders and verbally abusive idiots. I would say this is a symptom of the growing popularity of r.a.s. and sim racing overall, as more people get involved you get a mix of good and bad people. You and the rest of the pits team have always done a terrific service for the sim racing community (I especially loved TPTCC), and those of us who have been here all along know this and ignore/kill-file the abusive people as they show how just how ignorant they are in their posts, ignoring these people allows us to continue enjoying this great newsgroup and community. Meanwhile I would suggest you do the same, ignore these people and keep on doing the great job you have always done with The Pits, it surely is appreciated by the majority of us out here in the sim racing community. Seeyas on the track. --John (Joao) Silva SNIP!
Quoted text (14 lines)>If this is your attitude to someone who does all this for FREE, well, get a >grip. Never look a gift horse in the mouth, as they say, and obviously, you >were expecting a pedigree. >??Jan Kohl?? **The Pits Performance Team** >Computer Systems Programmer >USAF Air-Ground Operations School >Hurlburt Field, FL >Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com/ >The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com/
Jan Kohl 21 Mar 1999#457233
>I think that would be an improvement over the current MS site at least - you >might find something quicker :-) Amen to that, Ken...given they are probably using Frontpage, everytime I get a Frontpage document and load it up in my TEXT html editor, I end up usually stripping about 1/2 the code from it...and it looks just as good if not better! ;] Cheers! ??Jan Kohl?? **The Pits Performance Team** Computer Systems Programmer USAF Air-Ground Operations School Hurlburt Field, FL Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com/ The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com/
Larry 22 Mar 1999#457436
That would be an improvement :) -Larry > Thanks, rrevved...you mean there IS a heaven for overworked webmeisters? ;] > And all this time I thought the afterlife would be St. Peter asking me to > rewrite > Microsoft's entire website using Window's Notepad and Paintbrush... ;]

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