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an excellent drag racing sim!! no multiplayer as of yet but im sure soon!! for all u drag racer you will love this game man. post on nitrosim are BS

In article <[email hidden]>, "barbara johnson" <[email hidden]> writes: >an excellent drag racing sim!! no multiplayer as of yet but im sure soon!! >for all u drag racer you will love this game man. post on nitrosim are BS Is it better than Burnout? That game SUCKED, imo. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

> Is it better than Burnout? That game SUCKED, imo. > > Eldred I loved Burnout/Burnout PCE. Of course have been known to spend a few weekends a year doing it for real too. :) Burnout is a pretty good simulation of sportsman drag racing. MadDAWG

In article <40003630$[email hidden]>, "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> writes: >I loved Burnout/Burnout PCE. Of course have been known to spend a few >weekends a year doing it for real too. :) Burnout is a pretty good >simulation of sportsman drag racing. I could never figure out how to get in the right race, or something. Every race would have my opponent leave me like I was standing STILL. On the off chance that I could keep up, I would lose because I went *faster* than I was supposed to(bracket). How the hell are you supposed to know(during the run) that your run will be .2 seconds under the time you're limited to?? Fucking stupid game... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Eldred, those are the rules of sportsman class 1/4mile drag racing. In real drags, you qualify an ET (elapsed time) in the qualifying rounds - and then you are NOT allowed to "break out" or go over that dial-in ET in the elimination rounds. An example are ET's in one NHRA category alone...say, Super Stock. "SS/DA" (Super Stock D Automatic) will run slower than SS/AA. Yet, they are considered in the same "super stock" class. So, there are handicaps for those who do run slower dial-in ET's by way of the "christmas tree" allowing the slower guy a head start. (This of course prevents cheating...so Joe Shmuck doesn't hold out until the final rounds) There are dozens of classes. You wouldn't match an F1 car against a Cart class. Its the same in drag racing. The rules are there so that it is fair for everyone. EldredP wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

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>In article <40003630$[email hidden]>, "MadDAWG" ><[email hidden]> writes: > >>I loved Burnout/Burnout PCE. Of course have been known to spend a few >>weekends a year doing it for real too. :) Burnout is a pretty good >>simulation of sportsman drag racing. > >I could never figure out how to get in the right race, or something. Every >race would have my opponent leave me like I was standing STILL. On the off >chance that I could keep up, I would lose because I went *faster* than I

was >supposed to(bracket). How the hell are you supposed to know(during therun) >that your run will be .2 seconds under the time you're limited to??Fucking

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>stupid game... > >Eldred >-- >Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett >Member >Screamers Racing League >IICC League >GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 >ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 >Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress >N2k3 rank:in progress > >Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>Eldred, those are the rules of sportsman class 1/4mile drag racing. In real >drags, you qualify an ET (elapsed time) in the qualifying rounds - and then >you are NOT allowed to "break out" or go over that dial-in ET in the >elimination rounds. An example are ET's in one NHRA category alone...say, >Super Stock. "SS/DA" (Super Stock D Automatic) will run slower than SS/AA. >Yet, they are considered in the same "super stock" class. So, there are >handicaps for those who do run slower dial-in ET's by way of the "christmas >tree" allowing the slower guy a head start. (This of course prevents >cheating...so Joe Shmuck doesn't hold out until the final rounds) There are >dozens of classes. You wouldn't match an F1 car against a Cart class. Its >the same in drag racing. >The rules are there so that it is fair for everyone.

No, I understand the *concept*. I'm just saying in the qual race I hammer down and go as fast as I can. In the main race I do the same thing. During the (main)run, I have no way of knowing if I'll break out or not. So, I don't know if I should lift or not. If I don't lift, I seem to always break out. But if I lift to avoid breaking out, I lose by ET(I tried a couple times). So like I said before, I could never figure it out. I don't know how to win such a weird race... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

> No, I understand the *concept*. I'm just saying in the qual race I hammerdown > and go as fast as I can. In the main race I do the same thing. Duringthe > (main)run, I have no way of knowing if I'll break out or not. So, I don'tknow > if I should lift or not. If I don't lift, I seem to always break out.But if > I lift to avoid breaking out, I lose by ET(I tried a couple times). Solike I > said before, I could never figure it out. I don't know how to win such aweird > race... > > Eldred try it in real life! On big factor is weather. As it cools down cars go faster. Racing on Saturdays is a real bitch. Your practice runs are all during the day, and by the second or third round its dark dropped 10 degrees or better and you need to adjust your dail in. Of course as it gets cooler the track looses grip so its easy to spin the tires too, and you actual see the start light a little quicker so its easier to red light too. Well that last one isn't in the game. lol This is the kind of stuff I was talking about in my first post. Dang it now I want to reload the dang game. Might have to look for an old Voodo card since Burnout only runs 3dfx for graphics. MadDAWG

"Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:weYLb.3814$De.2482@edtnps84... > Eldred, those are the rules of sportsman class 1/4mile drag racing. Inreal > drags, you qualify an ET (elapsed time) in the qualifying rounds - andthen > you are NOT allowed to "break out" or go over that dial-in ET in the > elimination rounds. An example are ET's in one NHRA category alone...say, > Super Stock. "SS/DA" (Super Stock D Automatic) will run slower than SS/AA. > Yet, they are considered in the same "super stock" class. So, there are > handicaps for those who do run slower dial-in ET's by way of the"christmas > tree" allowing the slower guy a head start. (This of course prevents > cheating...so Joe Shmuck doesn't hold out until the final rounds) Thereare > dozens of classes. You wouldn't match an F1 car against a Cart class. Its > the same in drag racing. > The rules are there so that it is fair for everyone. Actually IIRC Stock and Super Stock classes are run as a handicapped start only. Each car is placed in a class based on power to wieght ratio and transmission type. Each class then has a time it "should" run. The slower car of each race is then start ahead of the other by the differance in class times. There is no breakout it this kind of racing, and if your not at least three tenths under your class time you don't have a snowball's chance of going very deep in elimnations. At least thats the way it was the last time I went to a natonal event. I think the breakout rule is only for ET brackets. I don't think open comp uses a breakout does it? MadDAWG

>try it in real life! On big factor is weather. As it cools down cars go >faster. Racing on Saturdays is a real bitch. Your practice runs are all >during the day, and by the second or third round its dark dropped 10 degrees >or better and you need to adjust your dail in. Which I wouldn't know how to do ANYWAY... It just doesn't seem like a fun way to spend time.<shrug> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

> Which I wouldn't know how to do ANYWAY... It just doesn't seem like a funway > to spend time.<shrug> > > Eldred well in real life you just whip out the white shoe polish and write a new number on the windows. In the game you need to go to the electronics tab and adjust type in a new number. if you never changed it I can see why you had problems. The default setup and default dail in were miles apart. You could also run index classes and heads up if I remember right. MadDAWG

In article <[email hidden]>, "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> writes: >well in real life you just whip out the white shoe polish and write a new >number on the windows. In the game you need to go to the electronics tab and >adjust type in a new number. if you never changed it I can see why you had >problems. The default setup and default dail in were miles apart. You could >also run index classes and heads up if I remember right. Hmm... Never saw the right screen, I guess. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:40028c36$[email hidden]...

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> > "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:weYLb.3814$De.2482@edtnps84... > > Eldred, those are the rules of sportsman class 1/4mile drag racing. In > real > > drags, you qualify an ET (elapsed time) in the qualifying rounds - and > then > > you are NOT allowed to "break out" or go over that dial-in ET in the > > elimination rounds. An example are ET's in one NHRA category

alone...say, > > Super Stock. "SS/DA" (Super Stock D Automatic) will run slower thanSS/AA.

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> > Yet, they are considered in the same "super stock" class. So, there are > > handicaps for those who do run slower dial-in ET's by way of the > "christmas > > tree" allowing the slower guy a head start. (This of course prevents > > cheating...so Joe Shmuck doesn't hold out until the final rounds) There > are > > dozens of classes. You wouldn't match an F1 car against a Cart class.

Its

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> > the same in drag racing. > > The rules are there so that it is fair for everyone. > > Actually IIRC Stock and Super Stock classes are run as a handicapped start > only. Each car is placed in a class based on power to wieght ratio and > transmission type. Each class then has a time it "should" run. The slower > car of each race is then start ahead of the other by the differance in

class > times. There is no breakout it this kind of racing, and if your not atleast > three tenths under your class time you don't have a snowball's chance of > going very deep in elimnations. At least thats the way it was the lasttime > I went to a natonal event. I think the breakout rule is only for ET > brackets. I don't think open comp uses a breakout does it? > > MadDAWG I'm sorry to say that I haven't been keeping up to whats allowed and what isn't these days. Last time I paid a visit to the local track was almost 12 yrs ago. I brought a "dial-your-own" 75 Pontiac Ventura 350 and made it to the third round of eliminations before being nosed out by a 65 Grand Prix. I lost by 3/10ths of a second because I was worried about breaking out so I backed off near the finish and unfortunately it was too much too soon. Getting back to what Eldred was mentioning about how hard it is to be consistent, well, if you're an inexperienced racer, those problems happen a lot...and I'm sure the game is no different. Its just harder to have that feel for the car. One has to really know the feel of their car to know what consistency is in drag racing involving ETs. Guess that is what separates the men from the boys.

>I was worried about > breaking out so I backed off near the finish and unfortunately it was too > much too soon. been there done that, and have a closet full of T-shirts. lol MadDAWG

Well, you just watch the other guy. You go only fast enough to win, and no more :) -Larry "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <weYLb.3814$De.2482@edtnps84>, "Rich" <[email hidden]>writes: > > >Eldred, those are the rules of sportsman class 1/4mile drag racing. Inreal > >drags, you qualify an ET (elapsed time) in the qualifying rounds - andthen > >you are NOT allowed to "break out" or go over that dial-in ET in the > >elimination rounds. An example are ET's in one NHRA category alone...say, > >Super Stock. "SS/DA" (Super Stock D Automatic) will run slower thanSS/AA. > >Yet, they are considered in the same "super stock" class. So, there are > >handicaps for those who do run slower dial-in ET's by way of the"christmas > >tree" allowing the slower guy a head start. (This of course prevents > >cheating...so Joe Shmuck doesn't hold out until the final rounds) Thereare > >dozens of classes. You wouldn't match an F1 car against a Cart class. Its > >the same in drag racing. > >The rules are there so that it is fair for everyone. > > No, I understand the *concept*. I'm just saying in the qual race I hammerdown > and go as fast as I can. In the main race I do the same thing. Duringthe > (main)run, I have no way of knowing if I'll break out or not. So, I don'tknow > if I should lift or not. If I don't lift, I seem to always break out.But if > I lift to avoid breaking out, I lose by ET(I tried a couple times). Solike I > said before, I could never figure it out. I don't know how to win such aweird

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> race... > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > Member > Screamers Racing League > IICC League > GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 > ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 > Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress > N2k3 rank:in progress > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

The most pissed-off human being I've ever seen is the guy in the Corvette who lost to me and my '67 GTO at Old Dominion Speedway in, oh, 1978 I believe. It is (or was, not sure these days) a 1/8th mile track. Sneeze, and you missed the whole thing :) Somewhere at my Mom's house I have the Trophy for winning that race. -Larry "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:40028c36$[email hidden]...

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> > "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:weYLb.3814$De.2482@edtnps84... > > Eldred, those are the rules of sportsman class 1/4mile drag racing. In > real > > drags, you qualify an ET (elapsed time) in the qualifying rounds - and > then > > you are NOT allowed to "break out" or go over that dial-in ET in the > > elimination rounds. An example are ET's in one NHRA category

alone...say, > > Super Stock. "SS/DA" (Super Stock D Automatic) will run slower thanSS/AA.

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> > Yet, they are considered in the same "super stock" class. So, there are > > handicaps for those who do run slower dial-in ET's by way of the > "christmas > > tree" allowing the slower guy a head start. (This of course prevents > > cheating...so Joe Shmuck doesn't hold out until the final rounds) There > are > > dozens of classes. You wouldn't match an F1 car against a Cart class.

Its

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> > the same in drag racing. > > The rules are there so that it is fair for everyone. > > Actually IIRC Stock and Super Stock classes are run as a handicapped start > only. Each car is placed in a class based on power to wieght ratio and > transmission type. Each class then has a time it "should" run. The slower > car of each race is then start ahead of the other by the differance in

class > times. There is no breakout it this kind of racing, and if your not atleast > three tenths under your class time you don't have a snowball's chance of > going very deep in elimnations. At least thats the way it was the lasttime > I went to a natonal event. I think the breakout rule is only for ET > brackets. I don't think open comp uses a breakout does it? > > MadDAWG > >

"Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qfNMb.12606$De.1798@edtnps84...

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> > I'm sorry to say that I haven't been keeping up to whats allowed and what > isn't these days. > Last time I paid a visit to the local track was almost 12 yrs ago. I brought > a "dial-your-own" > 75 Pontiac Ventura 350 and made it to the third round of eliminations before > > being nosed out by a 65 > Grand Prix. I lost by 3/10ths of a second because I was worried about > breaking out so I backed off near the finish and unfortunately it was too > much too soon. > Getting back to what Eldred was mentioning about how hard it is to be > consistent, well, if you're an inexperienced racer, those problems happen a > lot...and I'm sure the game is no different. Its just harder to have that > feel for the car. > One has to really know the feel of their car to know what consistency is in > drag racing involving ETs. Guess that is what separates the men from the > boys. > >

Consistency, good reaction times, and a ton of luck got me this trophy at the 85' bracket finals at Atlanta dragway. " http://home.mindspring.com/~ejgordon/Oscar2.jpg " It took 12 rounds to get to the final that day. The final round was a double breakout with me winning due to my .510 R.T. vs opponent's .622 . Opponent was forced to run .018 under dial in while I went .010 under. I'll never forget that day. :-)

> The final round was a double breakout with me winning due to my .510 R.T.vs opponent's .622 . > Opponent was forced to run .018 under dial in while I went .010 under. > I'll never forget that day. :-) They used reaction times to determine a double breakout? At my track you would have still won because they go by who's under the least. Good job on the win. I have never won jack. I always seem to lose in the frst money round no matter what it is. One time I actualy thought I made a few bucks, but when I went to check they were one car short on the buy backs to make it to my round. Good thing I do it because I enjoy it otherwise I would have staved to death by now. MadDAWG