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Oversteer vs. Understeer (Setup guide also)

2 posts by 2 people · 12 Mar 1999 - 13 Mar 1999

Wosco 12 Mar 1999#455721
There are many debates on oversteer and understeer and which on is better. Basically, when I was trying to drop my times at monza in the brabham, I started leaning towards an understeering setup. I made my setups intentionally push not real bad but where it wasn't oversteering much. I dropped my times down and learned a lot about driving deeper into the turns. I think the best way to learn is using understeer and push it to the limits because you can sense the limits a little better without completely loosing a whole lap which helps your confidence and ego. After getting to a point of where I wasn't improving (I was driving the setup to its limit) I started dialing out the understeer and as I did this, I got faster and faster. Once you can push the car to the limit, putting in some oversteer helps you turn the car and at that time you have built up your confidence and know the limits and now you can gradually push it to new limits. What I found helped me a lot (recently at spa) is to learn/test/play around with the differential settings. I was driving the eagle at spa, it pushes really bad there (at least with my setup). So at first I moved up the clutches which will lock the wheels together more and make the car oversteer on power a little more. After this didn't help all that I needed, I started playing with the ramps. This is where you can really tweak your setup. After you find a baseline chassis setup, not much can help you there, try to balance the car with the diff. Basically what I found is you start with 85/30 (first number power, second coast). Basically this is the pushiest (most understeering) setup. I don't know exactly what you are doing when you change the ramp angles and all that. I do have a general idea as to what they do. With the power side (85) if it is pushing when on the power, drop it down. The lower you go, the more it will oversteer on power. With the coast angle, it is completely opposite. Need more oversteer, raise it up to 45 or 60. I ended up on my Eagle Spa setup at 60/60. This gave me a good balance and really helped in the long turns where I could feed in some gas and it would turn it in but not spin the car, just helps it turn. Sorry for making such a long post but this is what I have learned and wanted to share the knowledge. A lot of people don't know what to do with the differential and I am just trying to give some people some insight. It can really make a difference in your setup. About the first part, it is probably common knowledge but it is a good way to test out the limits and learn to drive at the limits in GPL. I forget how I got my really pushy (read understeering) setups but I changed around some stuff which really made them feel firm and consistent. If I remember then I'll post the info here. Jesse FORS [link lost in import]
Brian 13 Mar 1999#455862
I knew about the effect of raising the coast angle (helping turn in when easing off the gas), but I never knew about the power side and always left it at 85. Now that I think about it, on the long bends at Spa, I tend to get a bit too much push when I apply power - a 60/60 might just do the trick for me. Thanks for the insight, Brian > There are many debates on oversteer and understeer and which on is >better. > What I found helped me a lot (recently at spa) is to learn/test/play >around with the differential settings.

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