GPL and AMD 3DNow!

Hi! I wonder if Grand Prix Legends currently supports the 3DNow! instructions of the AMD K6-2 and K6-III processors? I have understood that with 3DNow!- optimizations you can get significant improvements in the performance of 3d-games. At least at the moment GPL is not listed in the www-page for 3DNow!-optimized products, http://www.amd.com/products/cpg/k623d/optimized.html Viper Racing from Sierra is there :) So are there any plans for 3DNow! support for GPL?? -- < Tero Turtiainen | Yes Sir, may I*** your boots or do your Highness > < turtiain at iki.fi | use dry cleaning? - Stone >

I'm running a K6-2/350. This machine is quite fast. But, I'd have to say that for GPL your best bet is still the Intel PII. With 128 meg ram, 12 meg V.D.2 card, 8 meg sound card, I can only get 36fps with almost everything off while online. With a PII I heard that online you could have a lot of stuff on. I'd go for the K6-2 for the price. But if you have the money I'd get a PII in a hart beet.

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> Hi! > I wonder if Grand Prix Legends currently supports the 3DNow! instructions of > the AMD K6-2 and K6-III processors? I have understood that with 3DNow!- > optimizations you can get significant improvements in the performance of > 3d-games. At least at the moment GPL is not listed in the www-page for > 3DNow!-optimized products, http://www.amd.com/products/cpg/k623d/optimized.html > Viper Racing from Sierra is there :) > So are there any plans for 3DNow! support for GPL?? > -- > < Tero Turtiainen | Yes Sir, may I*** your boots or do your Highness > > < turtiain at iki.fi | use dry cleaning? - Stone >

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36.95 FPS is the design limit for GPL. You will never greater than this. The key is the FPS when running with a full field of AI cars. The AI cars require tremendous amounts of CPU power not graphics power. The CPU is tracking the same parameters for the AI cars as yours - thats why the frame rate appears to decrease dramatically when the number of AI cars is increased. The graphics card is not independant of the CPU and requires clock cycles. If the CPU is busy tracking AI info then the graphics system suffers. Thats why the Pentium 2 with it's large on chip cache works so well. This is also why most people, even with older systems, get fairly good frame rates in practice sessions (no AI cars). Doug > I'm running a K6-2/350. This machine is quite fast. But, I'd have to say that >for GPL your best bet is still the Intel PII. > With 128 meg ram, 12 meg V.D.2 card, 8 meg sound card, I can only get 36fps >with almost everything off while online. With a PII I heard that online you could >have a lot of stuff on. > I'd go for the K6-2 for the price. But if you have the money I'd get a PII in a

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>hart beet. >> Hi! >> I wonder if Grand Prix Legends currently supports the 3DNow! instructions

of >> the AMD K6-2 and K6-III processors? I have understood that with 3DNow!- >> optimizations you can get significant improvements in the performance of >> 3d-games. At least at the moment GPL is not listed in the www-page for >> 3DNow!-optimized products, [link lost in import] >> < Tero Turtiainen | Yes Sir, may I*** your boots or do your Highness > >> < turtiain at iki.fi | use dry cleaning? - Stone =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=->

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Hehehehehe, 36fps is the limit to make the FPS work correctly with the physics model. Thats why the car isnt as fast at lower FPS because the physics is not performing how it should be. Jesse

Unfortunately it does not.Too bad cuz it already rocks on my AMD.It would be great if they ever did.I cant remember where and who said it....but someone posted a message saying there was a patch 1.1 for GPL.I went looking for it yesterday but it was not to be found....happy racing~!!

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> Hi! > I wonder if Grand Prix Legends currently supports the 3DNow! instructions of > the AMD K6-2 and K6-III processors? I have understood that with 3DNow!- > optimizations you can get significant improvements in the performance of > 3d-games. At least at the moment GPL is not listed in the www-page for > 3DNow!-optimized products, http://www.amd.com/products/cpg/k623d/optimized.html > Viper Racing from Sierra is there :) > So are there any plans for 3DNow! support for GPL?? > -- > < Tero Turtiainen | Yes Sir, may I*** your boots or do your Highness > > < turtiain at iki.fi | use dry cleaning? - Stone >

I know what ya mean...I started racing at Watkins Glen and I use full on everything and for the first time my game began to flutter.But as far as cache goes,does the cache on a K6-2 (64k if im correct) not larger than the P2's?(32k).....where the Intel shines over the AMD in this case,is that it performs better Floating point calculations than it's AMD counterpart.So if GPL were 3dNOW enhanced(and i doubt that it ever will,which is a shame)then it would kick the Intel's ass in performance.I still get good frame-rates at Watkins-Glen,,,,it's just when i round the final corner that it flutters a bit then once past all those fancy graphics it's ok again.

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> 36.95 FPS is the design limit for GPL. You will never greater than this. > The key is the FPS when running with a full field of AI cars. The AI cars > require tremendous amounts of CPU power not graphics power. The CPU is > tracking the same parameters for the AI cars as yours - thats why the frame > rate appears to decrease dramatically when the number of AI cars is > increased. The graphics card is not independant of the CPU and requires > clock cycles. If the CPU is busy tracking AI info then the graphics system > suffers. Thats why the Pentium 2 with it's large on chip cache works so > well. This is also why most people, even with older systems, get fairly good > frame rates in practice sessions (no AI cars). > Doug > > I'm running a K6-2/350. This machine is quite fast. But, I'd have to > say that > >for GPL your best bet is still the Intel PII. > > With 128 meg ram, 12 meg V.D.2 card, 8 meg sound card, I can only get > 36fps > >with almost everything off while online. With a PII I heard that online > you could > >have a lot of stuff on. > > I'd go for the K6-2 for the price. But if you have the money I'd get a > PII in a > >hart beet. > >> Hi! > >> I wonder if Grand Prix Legends currently supports the 3DNow! instructions > of > >> the AMD K6-2 and K6-III processors? I have understood that with 3DNow!- > >> optimizations you can get significant improvements in the performance of > >> 3d-games. At least at the moment GPL is not listed in the www-page for > >> 3DNow!-optimized products, > http://www.amd.com/products/cpg/k623d/optimized.html > >> Viper Racing from Sierra is there :) > >> So are there any plans for 3DNow! support for GPL?? > >> -- > >> < Tero Turtiainen | Yes Sir, may I*** your boots or do your > Highness > > >> < turtiain at iki.fi | use dry cleaning? - Stone > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-> > >> NOTE: When replying, make the obvious change to my email-address. > >-- > >========================================= > >Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? > >MikeBa on the TEN network. > >Member of R.O.R. 1999 > >http://w3.ime.net/~marknjess/noflame.html > >========================================= > >Racing online with the help of...... > >Race Communications Association > >http://members.xoom.com/RCA/toc.html > >Holodyne Engineering > >Mystic Music

>Unfortunately it does not.Too bad cuz it already rocks on my AMD.It would be >great if they ever did.I cant remember where and who said it....but someone >posted a message saying there was a patch 1.1 for GPL.I went looking for it >yesterday but it was not to be found....happy racing~!! Well, currently I have no problems with GPL with my AMD K6-2/333Mhz, it runs most of the time above 30 fps, usually at 36fps. But I would like to try online racing and I have understood that it eats some of your processor power... BTW... Any novice Finnish online leagues for GPL? :-) -- < Tero Turtiainen | Yes Sir, may I*** your boots or do your Highness > < turtiain at iki.fi | use dry cleaning? - Stone >

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> Hi! > I wonder if Grand Prix Legends currently supports the 3DNow! instructions of > the AMD K6-2 and K6-III processors? I have understood that with 3DNow!- > optimizations you can get significant improvements in the performance of > 3d-games. At least at the moment GPL is not listed in the www-page for > 3DNow!-optimized products, http://www.amd.com/products/cpg/k623d/optimized.html > Viper Racing from Sierra is there :) > So are there any plans for 3DNow! support for GPL??

Tero, I run GPL on my K6-2/350 with 3Dnow and I get 36fps (Voodoo l) with most graphics and just cars in the mirrors. GPl doesn't use the 3Dnow. Nothing has been mentioned about it for the up coming patch,which is supposed to solve many of the online issues. Joel Willstein

well im stuck with a crummy USR 56k winmodem which i hear is ***for on-line racing.....but soon our cable company is re-wiring our neighbourhood for cable modems....then it will be much much better and i cant wait.

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> >Unfortunately it does not.Too bad cuz it already rocks on my AMD.It would be > >great if they ever did.I cant remember where and who said it....but someone > >posted a message saying there was a patch 1.1 for GPL.I went looking for it > >yesterday but it was not to be found....happy racing~!! > Well, currently I have no problems with GPL with my AMD K6-2/333Mhz, it runs > most of the time above 30 fps, usually at 36fps. But I would like to try > online racing and I have understood that it eats some of your processor > power... > BTW... Any novice Finnish online leagues for GPL? :-) > -- > < Tero Turtiainen | Yes Sir, may I*** your boots or do your Highness > > < turtiain at iki.fi | use dry cleaning? - Stone >

Set one up and maybe I'll join... after a few years of practice! - "If the meaning of life was printed in a book, someone would use it to keep the window open."

>>BTW... Any novice Finnish online leagues for GPL? :-) >Set one up and maybe I'll join... after a few years of practice! Have you checked FGPLC home page at http://welcome.to/FGPLC ? Just practise and join us next season! Hena