Help with VROC please

I posted a few days ago about not having the green flag option in multiplayer. I double checked VROC setup and followed the directions closely. I can join a race, GPL executes and when I go into multiplayer I see the IP for the host but no damn green flag to click on to join the track. Anyone else experience this? Thanks Rick

Rick, click JOIN, and then select the IP address in the right hand side of the screen. The green flag should then appear. Good luck. I just had my first day of online racing yesterday, and I can feel an ***ion coming on :-) Tim

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>I posted a few days ago about not having the green flag option in >multiplayer. I double checked VROC setup and followed the directions >closely. I can join a race, GPL executes and when I go into multiplayer >I see the IP for the host but no damn green flag to click on to join the >track. Anyone else experience this? >Thanks >Rick

I meant of course select it with your mouse pointer and click on it. I hope that was clear!! :-))) Tim

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>I posted a few days ago about not having the green flag option in >multiplayer. I double checked VROC setup and followed the directions >closely. I can join a race, GPL executes and when I go into multiplayer >I see the IP for the host but no damn green flag to click on to join the >track. Anyone else experience this? >Thanks >Rick

You are clicking on the ip address to lock it in aren't you? Otherwise I don't know why its not working for you.

Add the following line to your core.ini file. [ Communications ] alternate_ip_addr_lookup = 1 Bj?rn Nyhln Lund ,Sweden

> Rick, click JOIN, and then select the IP address in the right hand side of > the screen. The green flag should then appear. Good luck. I just had my > first day of online racing yesterday, and I can feel an ***ion coming on > :-) > Tim ***ing!! You bet it is. Since I started racing on VROC,that's all I want to do. Work all day, then eat with the family,help my son with his homework,check email,racing sites,then head on over to VROC for the rest of the night and into the early hours of the morning. I just wonder what will happen to all the die-hard gpl online racers when the Trans-Am and The Sport car sims finally are released. Joel Willstein

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> I posted a few days ago about not having the green flag option in > multiplayer. I double checked VROC setup and followed the directions > closely. I can join a race, GPL executes and when I go into multiplayer > I see the IP for the host but no damn green flag to click on to join the > track. Anyone else experience this? > Thanks > Rick

Rick, Are you checking join? If it had host checked previously,it will not give you a been box. Joel Willstein

On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:48:54 -0500, Joel Willstein >***ing!! > You bet it is. Since I started racing on VROC,that's all I want to >do. Work all day, then eat with the family,help my son with his >homework,check email,racing sites,then head on over to VROC for the rest >of the night and into the early hours of the morning. Yeah, I've been doing it (my first online *** experience) almost since VROC went public. My ISP account is 100 hours per month; I used to use 40 hours or so, now I push it right up to (and sometimes over) 100. No wonder I'm not getting anything done... :) I wonder too. A lot of us are *** sim fans, so it will take a pretty good product to pull us away from GPL. Have to wait and see on TA and SCGT. I think the biggest thing will be the release of NASCAR3. A lot of GPL'ers are Papyrus and NASCAR fans, and a lot of them will run N3 when it comes out (with the Papyrus track record, it's hard to picture N3 as a dud). And the nights of a full VROC board of GPL races will be history. :( But that's still half a year away... :) "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

I know this is some way off yet, but does anybody know if Nascar3 will be using TEN exclusively for online racing or is there a chance that it could be added to VROC or something similar? Oval's aren't a big favourite of mine for racing (although I play N2 occasionally) but if Nascar 3 is based on the GPL game engine then it should be a complete blast online, especially if it were to be run next to GPL on VROC so we could choose either type of race from one site. Maybe that would keep the interest open for GPL too. It would be a sad day for many of us GPLer's if most people defected to Nascar 3 exclusively :( There must be room for both games on our modern hard drives :) PS I know many people prefer Nascar style racing to open wheel / road circuits and I have no problem with their decision, I'll be in the queue to buy N3 myself. I just wouldn't like to see GPL fall by the wayside. -- Ian Parker ICQ 21772592 >On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:48:54 -0500, Joel Willstein >>***ing!! >> You bet it is. Since I started racing on VROC,that's all I want to >>do. Work all day, then eat with the family,help my son with his >>homework,check email,racing sites,then head on over to VROC for the rest >>of the night and into the early hours of the morning. > Yeah, I've been doing it (my first online *** experience) almost >since VROC went public. My ISP account is 100 hours per month; I used >to use 40 hours or so, now I push it right up to (and sometimes over) >100. No wonder I'm not getting anything done... :) >> I just wonder what will happen to all the die-hard gpl online racers >>when the Trans-Am and The Sport car sims finally are released. > I wonder too. A lot of us are *** sim fans, so it will take a >pretty good product to pull us away from GPL. Have to wait and see on >TA and SCGT. I think the biggest thing will be the release of >NASCAR3. A lot of GPL'ers are Papyrus and NASCAR fans, and a lot of >them will run N3 when it comes out (with the Papyrus track record, >it's hard to picture N3 as a dud). And the nights of a full VROC >board of GPL races will be history. :( But that's still half a year >away... :) >"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was >nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into >a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

Ian Parker wrote Since N3 will use almost the same multiplayer client/server coding as GPL, and be able to race with IPX, Modem and TCP/IP, Im about 99% sure that it can be easily ported to VROC. Still, it's not comparable to a dedicated system like TEN, with Servers made for it exclusivly, a Nascar sanctioned series, statistics, a TEN GUI made for the NROS, almost no warping (compared to GPL), etc.. It is in the whole hands of Sierra (they are the "owner" somehow of the NROS) to decide what system N3 will be ported on. Im sure that TEN has a good chance of getting N3 on for the NROS. I mean.. the NROS won't go anywhere if we stay with N2, so Im sure that with N3 the NROS (Nascar Racing Online Series, the 14th division of Nascar) would be an incredible virtual racing series.

Good post Ian. The biggest problem we'll face is when all those excellent Stateside cable/ADSL hosts switch (I imagine) to N3... the way things are going this side of the pond it'll be a while before we have reliable "mass" hosts. Euro hosts are cropping up more often, but a lot of Net connections between Euro nations seem to go via the States, which doesn't help much. Having said all this, I think N3 will be a different enough experience not to threaten GPL's existence totally... though I find it hard enough to find enough time to keep "on top of" GPL. Add another serious sim to the time schedule and something's going to give! (Probably my sanity) Andrew McP PS The transition to N3 should be interesting after all these months of not worrying about tyre wear!

I can see that when N3 comes out that VROC will become a ghost town for a short while. However, There are those such as my self that can't stand going round and round and round over and over again. I'd much rather be on the road courses because it hands out one hell of a challenge. Oval racing, no mater which track, is just boring as hell. Even in traffic. I will be among those that disappear from VROC, But only for a short while to drive the newest Sim. But after that, I'll be back in full force. BTW> I read an article in Sports car magazine that the heads of SCCA, FIA, and other road racing clubs were getting together to figure out how to bring back the spectators to road racing. This article is a few months old. So, Has anyone have any info on what these organizations are planning, have planned, are going to plan? Mike Barlow

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> > I just wouldn't like to see GPL fall by the wayside. > Good post Ian. The biggest problem we'll face is when all those excellent > Stateside cable/ADSL hosts switch (I imagine) to N3... the way things are > going this side of the pond it'll be a while before we have reliable "mass" > hosts. Euro hosts are cropping up more often, but a lot of Net > connections between Euro nations seem to go via the States, which > doesn't help much. > Having said all this, I think N3 will be a different enough experience not to > threaten GPL's existence totally... though I find it hard enough to find > enough time to keep "on top of" GPL. Add another serious sim to the time > schedule and something's going to give! (Probably my sanity) > Andrew McP > PS The transition to N3 should be interesting after all these months of not > worrying about tyre wear!

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I've never driven the Nascar sims "to death" like I have GPL, but I've always enjoyed them... though in a different way. Oval tracks offer you that quick adrenaline hit, the chance to get that lap just right *this* time... and when you don't the chance is there again very quickly.***up a lap at the Ring and you'll probably die of old age before getting the next chance ;-) Never driven online with Nascar1 or 2 and I suspect it'll be rather good. Still, whatever happens it's better to be spoiled for choice than the alternative! Of course the Quake scene was superb until Q2 came out and split the online Quake community up into (IMO) dying fragments.

driving N3 online sure it will be fun ..but GPL is a classic sim and I don't think that will fall by the wayside kostis

Michael Barlow wrote Somehow I can see the opposite ;-) Since VROC can (and I speculate) easily be applied to Nascar Racing 3, since I would guess it uses the same multiplayer client/server architecture as Grand Prix Legends, you will see it for both versions.. maybe sharing the same applet. Of course there might be some superior form of online racing using Dedicated server such as TEN with the NROS, but there will always be normal TCP/IP based racing. When the N3 non-GPLers see that there's "another game" on VROC called GPL, Im sure some of them will buy it. Thus making it staying alive :) And even more since I know from facts that converters will be extra-easy to do, with interchangeable tracks an easy task. -= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -= May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Heh... GPL on a fast oval would be truly terrifying... can't wait :-) Andrew McP