GPL Wish List & warm up lap query

I find GPL exceptional, but I wonder if in 1967 the drivers had one (or more) warm up laps before the start as they do today. If so, is this modelled in GPL? I find cold tires at the start very difficult sometimes especially if I am on the front row and I know Clark and Hill etc will make scorching starts. I have a tendency to spin or swerve right off the line or to outbrake myself at the first bend. Secondly I wish in the replays I could have a little window showing the pedals, so I could learn from others' brake and accelerator movements. it might not be practical, but I could learn a lot, especially about trail braking. Tim

>I find GPL exceptional, but I wonder if in 1967 the drivers had one (or >more) warm up laps before the start as they do today. If so, is this >modelled in GPL? IIRC back in those days they rolled the cars from the pits to a "false-grid" (similar to the one they do presently but behind the S/F line). When they cranked the machines, they all go place themselves a hundred of feet in front where their position should normally be, and this is when the Green flag dropped. This would had been a nice addition but the input for the gas and brake is not modeled on screen (the***pit has a flat shape below the driver's "body"). So you would need to change the car polygon models, create a set of polygon shaped legs, etc... It's possible, just one of those things you won't find (99.999% sure) in a patch. The best thing is to go with the driver's head movement and the audio cues for acceleration/braking ;) -= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -= May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

On Sun, 07 Mar 1999 17:53:27 GMT, "Tim Leighton" >I find GPL exceptional, but I wonder if in 1967 the drivers had one (or >more) warm up laps before the start as they do today. If so, is this >modelled in GPL? At the start, the AI car instruments show the perfect oil and water temp (tires too, probably), so I guess GPl models the effects of a warm-up lap for the AI drivers, but not the player(s). -- _____ /_______\ .\\ a t t h e a d I XT /~~~~ I 500\_____ 1977' Yamaha XT.Rex 500 Enduro \____/\__I_I http://matthead.home.pages.de/

maybe dont ask for the seeing of the pedals (adds polygons and design) but ask for something like a bar at the bottom of the screen that shows how much of gas and brake is on. Jesse

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>I find GPL exceptional, but I wonder if in 1967 the drivers had one (or >more) warm up laps before the start as they do today. If so, is this >modelled in GPL? I find cold tires at the start very difficult sometimes >especially if I am on the front row and I know Clark and Hill etc will make >scorching starts. I have a tendency to spin or swerve right off the line or >to outbrake myself at the first bend. >Secondly I wish in the replays I could have a little window showing the >pedals, so I could learn from others' brake and accelerator movements. it >might not be practical, but I could learn a lot, especially about trail >braking. >Tim

I bet what they do is they don't model the AI cars dynamically changing throughout the race, they just stay the same (same tire temps, same engine temps, same state of mind (no brain fade). So later on in sims this needs to be modeled. Jesse

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>On Sun, 07 Mar 1999 17:53:27 GMT, "Tim Leighton" >>I find GPL exceptional, but I wonder if in 1967 the drivers had one (or >>more) warm up laps before the start as they do today. If so, is this >>modelled in GPL? >At the start, the AI car instruments show the perfect oil and water >temp (tires too, probably), so I guess GPl models the effects of a >warm-up lap for the AI drivers, but not the player(s). >-- > _____ > /_______\ .\\ a t t h e a d >I XT /~~~~ >I 500\_____ 1977' Yamaha XT.Rex 500 Enduro > \____/\__I_I http://matthead.home.pages.de/

Actually at the nurburg, they had a short chute where they would go through about 3 turns and it brought them right back to the pits (you know how you go right behind the pit lane? right at the end there) so they didnt have to wait but could still warm everything up, they might have run that a couple of times around to get the tires warm but I bet they just used it to get the *** cleaned and move the tires from cold to cool. Jesse

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>They did, but in some cases, such as at the Nurburgring, where the time >for a warmup lap was about 10 mins, the race would not necessarily >immediately follow the lap. Often a gap of several minutes could take >place. >> I find GPL exceptional, but I wonder if in 1967 the drivers had one (or >> more) warm up laps before the start as they do today. If so, is this >> modelled in GPL? I find cold tires at the start very difficult sometimes >> especially if I am on the front row and I know Clark and Hill etc will

make >> scorching starts. I have a tendency to spin or swerve right off the line or

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>> to outbrake myself at the first bend. >> Secondly I wish in the replays I could have a little window showing the >> pedals, so I could learn from others' brake and accelerator movements. it >> might not be practical, but I could learn a lot, especially about trail >> braking. >> Tim >-- >Regards, >Bruce. >---------- >HMRC Web site address is:- >http://www2.tpg.com.au/users/brucek/hmrc/index.htm >----------

They did, but in some cases, such as at the Nurburgring, where the time for a warmup lap was about 10 mins, the race would not necessarily immediately follow the lap. Often a gap of several minutes could take place.

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> I find GPL exceptional, but I wonder if in 1967 the drivers had one (or > more) warm up laps before the start as they do today. If so, is this > modelled in GPL? I find cold tires at the start very difficult sometimes > especially if I am on the front row and I know Clark and Hill etc will make > scorching starts. I have a tendency to spin or swerve right off the line or > to outbrake myself at the first bend. > Secondly I wish in the replays I could have a little window showing the > pedals, so I could learn from others' brake and accelerator movements. it > might not be practical, but I could learn a lot, especially about trail > braking. > Tim

-- Regards, Bruce. ---------- HMRC Web site address is:- http://www2.tpg.com.au/users/brucek/hmrc/index.htm ----------