Melbourne G.P. (spoiler)

Just got home from trackside at the Melbourne GP, and i thought i would let those of you who want to know, who won the race. After a re-start, due to the Stewarts self destructing (both of them) on the grid, and Michael Schumacher having to go to the back of the grid for the re-start, due to stalling it on the grid, the Melbourne GP finally got under way. The McLarens easily left the rest of the field in their wake, with Eddie Irvine (ferrari) trying to play catch up in 3rd. The pace car was brought out again after about 20 laps or so, when Jacques Villeneuve parked his car against the fence, due to a rear wing letting go at speed. Shortly after both of the McLarens dropped out with mechanical woes, leaving the race to Eddie Irvine in the Ferrari, followed home by Heinz-Harald Frentzen in the Jordan, followed by Ralph Schumacher in the Williams. Incidentally Rubens Barrichello started from the pit lane in the spare Stewart and mad a very good show of the rest of the race, showing that the Stewarts were right on the pace this year. Alex Zanardi creamed himself against the fence about mid race distance when he got a wheel into the grass and lost it, bringing out the pace car again. He was not hurt though. The attrition rate was unbelievable, with only about 8 cars finishing, Michael Schumacher limped home in last place, after a couple of un-planned pit stops, due to a puncture firstly, and then a faulty steering wheel secondly. He clocked the fastest lap of the race in about the 2nd last lap of the day, so the Ferrari still looked ok after all that. This win was the 1st for Eddie, and didn't he seemed pleased about it. The McLaren crew looked less than pleased... <G> Cheers, Ron

Thanks Ron that's very nice of you Too bad for BAR who was supposed to win their FIRST race !!! Also for Jacque too. How did Damon Hill do ?

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| Just got home from trackside at the Melbourne GP, and i thought i would | let those of you who want to know, who won the race. | | After a re-start, due to the Stewarts self destructing (both of them) | on the grid, and Michael Schumacher having to go to the back of the | grid for the re-start, due to stalling it on the grid, the Melbourne GP | finally got under way. | The McLarens easily left the rest of the field in their wake, with | Eddie Irvine (ferrari) trying to play catch up in 3rd. | The pace car was brought out again after about 20 laps or so, when | Jacques Villeneuve parked his car against the fence, due to a rear wing | letting go at speed. | Shortly after both of the McLarens dropped out with mechanical woes, | leaving the race to Eddie Irvine in the Ferrari, followed home by | Heinz-Harald Frentzen in the Jordan, followed by Ralph Schumacher in | the Williams. | Incidentally Rubens Barrichello started from the pit lane in the spare | Stewart and mad a very good show of the rest of the race, showing that | the Stewarts were right on the pace this year. | Alex Zanardi creamed himself against the fence about mid race distance | when he got a wheel into the grass and lost it, bringing out the pace | car again. He was not hurt though. | | The attrition rate was unbelievable, with only about 8 cars finishing, | Michael Schumacher limped home in last place, after a couple of | un-planned pit stops, due to a puncture firstly, and then a faulty | steering wheel secondly. He clocked the fastest lap of the race in | about the 2nd last lap of the day, so the Ferrari still looked ok after | all that. | This win was the 1st for Eddie, and didn't he seemed pleased about it. | The McLaren crew looked less than pleased... <G> | Cheers, | Ron |

If your gonna post spoilers then at least space it so that you have to scroll down to the results.

Damon got punted at the first corner. Pity cuase I reckon he was faster than Irvine.

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> Thanks Ron > that's very nice of you > Too bad for BAR who was supposed to win their FIRST race !!! > Also for Jacque too. > How did Damon Hill do ? > | Just got home from trackside at the Melbourne GP, and i thought i would > | let those of you who want to know, who won the race. > | > | After a re-start, due to the Stewarts self destructing (both of them) > | on the grid, and Michael Schumacher having to go to the back of the > | grid for the re-start, due to stalling it on the grid, the Melbourne GP > | finally got under way. > | The McLarens easily left the rest of the field in their wake, with > | Eddie Irvine (ferrari) trying to play catch up in 3rd. > | The pace car was brought out again after about 20 laps or so, when > | Jacques Villeneuve parked his car against the fence, due to a rear wing > | letting go at speed. > | Shortly after both of the McLarens dropped out with mechanical woes, > | leaving the race to Eddie Irvine in the Ferrari, followed home by > | Heinz-Harald Frentzen in the Jordan, followed by Ralph Schumacher in > | the Williams. > | Incidentally Rubens Barrichello started from the pit lane in the spare > | Stewart and mad a very good show of the rest of the race, showing that > | the Stewarts were right on the pace this year. > | Alex Zanardi creamed himself against the fence about mid race distance > | when he got a wheel into the grass and lost it, bringing out the pace > | car again. He was not hurt though. > | > | The attrition rate was unbelievable, with only about 8 cars finishing, > | Michael Schumacher limped home in last place, after a couple of > | un-planned pit stops, due to a puncture firstly, and then a faulty > | steering wheel secondly. He clocked the fastest lap of the race in > | about the 2nd last lap of the day, so the Ferrari still looked ok after > | all that. > | This win was the 1st for Eddie, and didn't he seemed pleased about it. > | The McLaren crew looked less than pleased... <G> > | Cheers, > | Ron > |

Alex Zanardi was a big dissapointment!

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> Just got home from trackside at the Melbourne GP, and i thought i would > let those of you who want to know, who won the race. > After a re-start, due to the Stewarts self destructing (both of them) > on the grid, and Michael Schumacher having to go to the back of the > grid for the re-start, due to stalling it on the grid, the Melbourne GP > finally got under way. > The McLarens easily left the rest of the field in their wake, with > Eddie Irvine (ferrari) trying to play catch up in 3rd. > The pace car was brought out again after about 20 laps or so, when > Jacques Villeneuve parked his car against the fence, due to a rear wing > letting go at speed. > Shortly after both of the McLarens dropped out with mechanical woes, > leaving the race to Eddie Irvine in the Ferrari, followed home by > Heinz-Harald Frentzen in the Jordan, followed by Ralph Schumacher in > the Williams. > Incidentally Rubens Barrichello started from the pit lane in the spare > Stewart and mad a very good show of the rest of the race, showing that > the Stewarts were right on the pace this year. > Alex Zanardi creamed himself against the fence about mid race distance > when he got a wheel into the grass and lost it, bringing out the pace > car again. He was not hurt though. > The attrition rate was unbelievable, with only about 8 cars finishing, > Michael Schumacher limped home in last place, after a couple of > un-planned pit stops, due to a puncture firstly, and then a faulty > steering wheel secondly. He clocked the fastest lap of the race in > about the 2nd last lap of the day, so the Ferrari still looked ok after > all that. > This win was the 1st for Eddie, and didn't he seemed pleased about it. > The McLaren crew looked less than pleased... <G> > Cheers, > Ron

If you didn't want to know the results, then you should not have read the post in the first place. Note, i did put the word, "spoiler", in the heading, that is all that is needed. I posted the article on the Melbourne GP because some people appreciate knowing who come where... I could understand your complaint if i didn't include the,"spoiler" , in the heading, but i did, so it is not my fault if you read it. Did you get out of bed the wrong way or something. ? :-) Cheers, Ron

Yeah i agree with you there Mark, and thanks for giving the info to Leong. It would have been interesting to see how Damon would have went if he hadn't of been punted off the track. I class Damon Hill as a much better driver than Heinz-Harald Frentzen, so i think it would have been a good battle with him and Eddie. Like yourself, i was dissapointed in the showing that Alex put in. I suppose we have to take into account that it was his first race back in F1 for a few years though, and we all know what a fighter Alex is, so i think he will improve over the coming season. One thing you gotta hand to Alex is that he actually made Frank Williams smile. How often have you seen that. ?? <G> I wish the BAR team would stick to one color scheme, it certainly is different like it is. I prefer the red/white side.. Cheers, Ron

If it says spoiler, don't read it :-) ! -- Cheers! Graeme Nash http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk ICQ# 11257824 1998 Xoom GP2 League Champion

I'm making it a point not to read this message yet, but I wanted to thank you for putting the word spoiler in the title since the race won't be broadcast here in Indianapolis for another 2 hours. I'm sure that I'm not he only tape-delay victim here, and on their behalf, I thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled article...

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>Just got home from trackside at the Melbourne GP, and i thought i would >let those of you who want to know, who won the race. >After a re-start, due to the Stewarts self destructing (both of them) >on the grid, and Michael Schumacher having to go to the back of the >grid for the re-start, due to stalling it on the grid, the Melbourne GP >finally got under way. >The McLarens easily left the rest of the field in their wake, with >Eddie Irvine (ferrari) trying to play catch up in 3rd. >The pace car was brought out again after about 20 laps or so, when >Jacques Villeneuve parked his car against the fence, due to a rear wing >letting go at speed. >Shortly after both of the McLarens dropped out with mechanical woes, >leaving the race to Eddie Irvine in the Ferrari, followed home by >Heinz-Harald Frentzen in the Jordan, followed by Ralph Schumacher in >the Williams. >Incidentally Rubens Barrichello started from the pit lane in the spare >Stewart and mad a very good show of the rest of the race, showing that >the Stewarts were right on the pace this year. >Alex Zanardi creamed himself against the fence about mid race distance >when he got a wheel into the grass and lost it, bringing out the pace >car again. He was not hurt though. >The attrition rate was unbelievable, with only about 8 cars finishing, >Michael Schumacher limped home in last place, after a couple of >un-planned pit stops, due to a puncture firstly, and then a faulty >steering wheel secondly. He clocked the fastest lap of the race in >about the 2nd last lap of the day, so the Ferrari still looked ok after >all that. >This win was the 1st for Eddie, and didn't he seemed pleased about it. > The McLaren crew looked less than pleased... <G> >Cheers, >Ron

Hey now , come on! The first GP of any season is always a ***shoot. The GP in Oz was one of the strangest (but entertaining) I've seen. It was great to see the new faces on the podium but, it is in no way indicative of how the rest of the season will play out. Alex bleeds black and white so I wouldn't give up on him just yet.

>If your gonna post spoilers then at least space it so that you have to >scroll down to the results. Geez, you just can't please some people. At the risk (hell, certainty) of starting a tired debate... 8 cars finish, winner wins due to the fastest cars not surviving. How much passing was done outside of that due to pitting and attrition? The usual near-zip? Well, I bet Schumi's run from last (after stall) to about 10th made for interesting watching. Otherwise, F1 is more about technology, politics, personalities and (I suppose if one is really keen enough) watching very precision drivers, than it is about watching exciting *racing*. I'm still sometimes amazed at the popularity of this. This from someone who, yes, watches the races (when available!). Followups to alt.my.racing.is.better.than.yours ? :-)

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> 8 cars finish, winner wins due to the fastest cars not surviving. How much > passing was done outside of that due to pitting and attrition? The usual > near-zip? Well, I bet Schumi's run from last (after stall) to about 10th made > for interesting watching. Otherwise, F1 is more about technology, politics, > personalities and (I suppose if one is really keen enough) watching very > precision drivers, than it is about watching exciting *racing*. I'm still > sometimes amazed at the popularity of this. This from someone who, yes, > watches the races (when available!).

Okay, so Ralf S, took HH at turn 2 and HH took him straight back. Fisicella nearly got Irvine. 6th to 9th changed so many time I can remember. Michael S overtook or was overtaken by just about everyone on the track at one time or another - just to mention a few. Baricello did nearly the same. The McLaren's were obviously way out on their own but they got out of the race soon enough so that we could have a good race between evenly matched cars. 6 different constructors in the 6 points places. The winner crossed the line 2 seconds ahead of 2nd place with a similar gap to 3rd in 57 laps - none of the top 3 cars having had any mechanical failures - in fact of the top 6 grid positions only the 2 McLaren's suffered serious failures - unless you count M. Shumacher's escapades - strange to see him make so many mistakes. The high attrition rate was as much to do with driver error as mechanical failures. Were you watching the same race as me? Cheers, Paul

Hi Paul, >- unless you count M. Shumacher's escapades - strange to see him make so many mistakes. I wouldn't call a faulty steering wheel a mistake. I do wonder how he did manage to bent his front wing and get a flat tire, though. I did see his 2 wheel on the grass trip, but I don't think that was the reason of formentioned problems. Any clue? Remco

% Damon got punted at the first corner. Pity cuase I reckon he was faster than Irvine. If I recall correctly the puntee claimed he hadn't really touched Hill, it was just a bad warp or clock-smash. Therefore Damon shouldn't be too upset. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Schumaker was off-track, by a couple wheels or so, several times during the race. I'd attribute it to frustration at starting on the tail matched with overdriving the car to try to get back to the front... >Hi Paul, >>- unless you count M. Shumacher's escapades - strange to see him make so many mistakes. >I wouldn't call a faulty steering wheel a mistake. I do wonder how he >did manage to bent his front wing and get a flat tire, though. I did >see his 2 wheel on the grass trip, but I don't think that was the >reason of formentioned problems. Any clue? >Remco

>for interesting watching. Otherwise, F1 is more about technology, politics, >personalities and (I suppose if one is really keen enough) watching very >precision drivers, than it is about watching exciting *racing*. That _is_ racing. Passing is just one facet of racing, and a series artificially engineered to provide constant fan stimulus is as devoid of true "racing" as any other. Cheers! John

> Well, I bet Schumi's run from last (after stall) to about 10th made > for interesting watching. Sorry to be a pedant, but Schume made it up to 4th. :-) Cheers, Paul

>>for interesting watching. Otherwise, F1 is more about technology, politics, >>personalities and (I suppose if one is really keen enough) watching very >>precision drivers, than it is about watching exciting *racing*. >That _is_ racing. I assume you are refering to the latter point, ie "precision drivers". I'd agree, except...what percentage of fans do you think can discern a top tier driver (except perhaps Schumacher) from a second tier, or a second tier from a third (except perhaps Rossett :-)). I can't. And if I generalize and externalize, well, surprise, that's what most do on the net :-) *For the most part* people look at the times and say "good lap" or "good driver". Just take a peek over at the F1 ng for such debates. Hey, everyone can take from it what they want. To me, F1 seriously lacks in actual racing action and interest. When a pit stop is the most exciting part... (yeah, I can see you say "that's part of racing"). To each his own. Anyway, if you want to watch precision, who needs the race? Just watch practice (okay, I'm getting far afield here...). But a course like Monaco or Hungaroring where you pretty much have to have the car come apart to be passed??

Well, I think you can't expect a complete new team to win the first race in their very first season in formula one. Yeah, but I can't understand why they wouldn't use stronger rear spoiler suspensions - most cars in fact are too _light_, so they have to carry metal plates or something like that with them. And actually Jacques was *very* lucky, this could've been a horrible accident. BTW, Alex Wurz' rear wheel suspension broke at high speed, too. Crashed in the first lap (IIRC after collision with a Prost). Daniel -- Daniel Lichtenberger, Vienna/Austria "If I ate spinach I'd be called spinach D"

Nice One, maybe he should have used shift -R.. Oh sorry it was a GP race so no shift-R :) -- Ian Parker ICQ 21772592 >If I recall correctly the puntee claimed he hadn't really touched Hill, >it was just a bad warp or clock-smash. Therefore Damon shouldn't be too >upset.

>>Too bad for BAR who was supposed to win their FIRST race !!! >Well, I think you can't expect a complete new team to win the first >race in their very first season in formula one. He might have been referring to Reynard's record for winning their first race in every form of racing they entered. (The BAR is a Reynard design, right?)

HAHAHAHA, thats a good one. He said something about him being there, then not there and the next thing he knew, they were on top of each other and spinning. >% Damon got punted at the first corner. Pity cuase I reckon he was faster than Irvine.

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>If I recall correctly the puntee claimed he hadn't really touched Hill, >it was just a bad warp or clock-smash. Therefore Damon shouldn't be too >upset. >-- >**************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* > Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

> COmpard to GP bike racing F1 is about exciting as soggy Cornflakes. When Irvine got stuck I know wht ya mean kinda like Nascar!

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> Hi Paul, > >- unless you count M. Shumacher's escapades - strange to see him make so many mistakes. > I wouldn't call a faulty steering wheel a mistake. I do wonder how he > did manage to bent his front wing and get a flat tire, though. I did > see his 2 wheel on the grass trip, but I don't think that was the > reason of formentioned problems. Any clue?

He drove over some pieces of bodywork on the track, it was shown in a replay. <soap box on> Damn those TV directors! I don't understand how they decide what to show. Schumacher was at the back of the field, so you can be sure a lot of passing will be going on. Instead they show the first 5 cars following each other! There must be a rule to show the lead group no matter how boring or uneventfull... <soap box off> -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

I don't think he has showed any potential at all so far. Either in pre season or at Melbourne. Compare him to Villeneuve's first GP! Franchitti....now that is somebody who I want to see in F1.

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> >Alex Zanardi was a big dissapointment! > Hey now , come on! The first GP of any season is always a ***shoot. > The GP in Oz was one of the strangest (but entertaining) I've seen. It > was great to see the new faces on the podium but, it is in no way > indicative of how the rest of the season will play out. Alex bleeds > black and white so I wouldn't give up on him just yet.

COmpard to GP bike racing F1 is about exciting as soggy Cornflakes. When Irvine got stuck behing Zolta it showed that this year will be the same as the last 10, The aerodynamics make it impossible to overtake due to "Dirty air" syndrome.

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> >If your gonna post spoilers then at least space it so that you have to > >scroll down to the results. > Geez, you just can't please some people. > At the risk (hell, certainty) of starting a tired debate... > 8 cars finish, winner wins due to the fastest cars not surviving. How much > passing was done outside of that due to pitting and attrition? The usual > near-zip? Well, I bet Schumi's run from last (after stall) to about 10th made > for interesting watching. Otherwise, F1 is more about technology, politics, > personalities and (I suppose if one is really keen enough) watching very > precision drivers, than it is about watching exciting *racing*. I'm still > sometimes amazed at the popularity of this. This from someone who, yes, > watches the races (when available!). > Followups to alt.my.racing.is.better.than.yours ? :-)

It may have been interesting to watch, but we never got to see any of his move throught the field here on Speedvision, just Eddie going round and round. I think part of the problem with F1 is that the TV coverage just plain sucks. >> Well, I bet Schumi's run from last (after stall) to about 10th made >> for interesting watching. >Sorry to be a pedant, but Schume made it up to 4th. :-) >Cheers, >Paul Remove the "u"s from my address to reply via email.

> It may have been interesting to watch, but we never got to see any of his move > throught the field here on Speedvision, just Eddie going round and round. I > think part of the problem with F1 is that the TV coverage just plain sucks. Yeah, the tv coverage wasn't too hot at Melbourne. We didn't see Baricello going for it either. The producer did a very bad job - I would have thought with all those cameras, he would have had a bank of screens from which he could see all the action and be able to switch from one to the other to get the good bits. Probably Bernie wouldn't let them do that because they didn't pay him enough money. :-) Cheers, Paul

> Schumaker was off-track, by a couple wheels or so, several times during >the race. I'd attribute it to frustration at starting on the tail matched >with overdriving the car to try to get back to the front... Thx. Remco.

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>> It may have been interesting to watch, but we never got to see any of his move >> throught the field here on Speedvision, just Eddie going round and round. I >> think part of the problem with F1 is that the TV coverage just plain sucks. >Yeah, the tv coverage wasn't too hot at Melbourne. We didn't see Baricello going >for it either. The producer did a very bad job - I would have thought with all >those cameras, he would have had a bank of screens from which he could see all the >action and be able to switch from one to the other to get the good bits. Probably >Bernie wouldn't let them do that because they didn't pay him enough money. :-)

Hmmm, I guess I was lucky then. I watched the C***+ footage, and I saw the "official" footage later. There seems to be different kinds of footages, because the one C***+ broadcasted did show all the passing of Schumacher (and Barrichello aswell). Maybe C***+ did pay Bernie some extra money.....Puzzling. Remco

>If your gonna post spoilers then at least space it so that you have to >scroll down to the results. I disagree. Much courtesy was shown by including "spoiler" in the title of the post. Since I was just about to watch the race on tape, I delayed reading the thread. Why would you read a "spoiler" if you hadn't seen the race, anyway? Trey Behan

>Franchitti....now that is somebody who I want to see in F1. Jeff Gordon....now that is somebody who I want to see in F1. Only to make Winston Cup fun again :) Trey Behan

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>>>Too bad for BAR who was supposed to win their FIRST race !!! >>Well, I think you can't expect a complete new team to win the first >>race in their very first season in formula one. >He might have been referring to Reynard's record for winning their first race >in every form of racing they entered. (The BAR is a Reynard design, right?)

Yes it is. Daniel -- Daniel Lichtenberger, Vienna/Austria "If I ate spinach I'd be called spinach D"

> He might have been referring to Reynard's record for winning their first race > in every form of racing they entered. (The BAR is a Reynard design, right?) Mr. Reynard actually came right out and predicted that BAR would win in Australia! Dave Ewing

> Not to mention that he hasn't been to this track b4. Even those who > had were having a lot of offs. Still, it seems the glory days of the > Williams machinery are over - temporarily at least. It's tough to compete at the very highest level without a works engine. When they get teamed up with BMW next year, I suspect they will be right up there again. The defection of Adrian Newey to McLaren hasn't helped them either. As much as I like Alex (he seems like such a nice guy), I think he is going to have more than his hands full competing against young Ralph. Ralph has really matured as a driver. He has been quite impressive since about the middle of last season. His drive at Melbourne was rock solid. Dave Ewing

Not to mention that he hasn't been to this track b4. Even those who had were having a lot of offs. Still, it seems the glory days of the Williams machinery are over - temporarily at least. Will be interesting to see if Alex can consistently outpace Ralph - if at all :)

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> >Alex Zanardi was a big dissapointment! > Hey now , come on! The first GP of any season is always a ***shoot. > The GP in Oz was one of the strangest (but entertaining) I've seen. It > was great to see the new faces on the podium but, it is in no way > indicative of how the rest of the season will play out. Alex bleeds > black and white so I wouldn't give up on him just yet.

As I have mentioned before. Villy came to Melbourne for his first GP and got pole. I didn't expect the Williams to get pole this year but it was a top 6 contender. Starting 13th is ***and he didnt show any potential at all. Nice bloke and I would hate to see him fail in F1 like Michael Andretti did.

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> Not to mention that he hasn't been to this track b4. Even those who > had were having a lot of offs. Still, it seems the glory days of the > Williams machinery are over - temporarily at least. Will be interesting > to see if Alex can consistently outpace Ralph - if at all :) > > >Alex Zanardi was a big dissapointment! > > Hey now , come on! The first GP of any season is always a ***shoot. > > The GP in Oz was one of the strangest (but entertaining) I've seen. It > > was great to see the new faces on the podium but, it is in no way > > indicative of how the rest of the season will play out. Alex bleeds > > black and white so I wouldn't give up on him just yet.

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><soap box on> >Damn those TV directors! I don't understand how they decide what to show. >Schumacher was at the back of the field, so you can be sure a lot of passing >will be going on. Instead they show the first 5 cars following each other! >There must be a rule to show the lead group no matter how boring or >uneventfull... ><soap box off>

Agreed. I can't wait for the days when we can watch a race by "clicking" on which cameras WE want to view the race from. "Interactive Coverage" like observing a GPL race as it's happening. I did enjoy the "in car"n shots of Ralf spanking the Williams around the course. Awesome!!

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> ><soap box on> > >Damn those TV directors! I don't understand how they decide what to show. > >Schumacher was at the back of the field, so you can be sure a lot of passing > >will be going on. Instead they show the first 5 cars following each other! > >There must be a rule to show the lead group no matter how boring or > >uneventfull... > ><soap box off> > Agreed. I can't wait for the days when we can watch a race by > "clicking" on which cameras WE want to view the race from. > "Interactive Coverage" like observing a GPL race as it's happening. > I did enjoy the "in car"n shots of Ralf spanking the Williams > around the course. Awesome!!

Hmmm, a pay TV channel in Germany (DF1) is already offering that. You can choose from 6 (?) cameras. BUT, this sounds really cool in theory but I'm not sure if you'd miss even more important scenes by being your own director. Sometimes (too often actually) the TV directors***up horribly, but at least you can blame them, but imagine missing a big fight between Hill and Schumacher, landing both in the kitty litter, and you didn't see it... ;^) l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

For 400 FIM or 80 $ a season and 2000 FIM or 400 $ for a digital decoder I could do it. But I choose not. Tapani

> I did enjoy the "in car"n shots of Ralf spanking the Williams > around the course. Awesome!! And wasn't the "in-car" sound of the Williams just gorgeous. Why can't we get sounds quite that good in our sims. Before anyone lectures me about the number of decibels, I was listening to the broadcast at a pretty low volume so as not to wake the entire household. Cheers, Paul

I have turned the sound of and do my own sound effects. Have to clean the spit off the screan every so often!

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> > I did enjoy the "in car"n shots of Ralf spanking the Williams > > around the course. Awesome!! > And wasn't the "in-car" sound of the Williams just gorgeous. Why can't we get > sounds quite that good in our sims. Before anyone lectures me about the number of > decibels, I was listening to the broadcast at a pretty low volume so as not to > wake the entire household. > Cheers, > Paul

Cool, you're also simulating oil spray on your visor! Maybe you should try tear-offs. Brian >I have turned the sound of and do my own sound effects. Have to clean the spit off

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>the screan every so often! >> > I did enjoy the "in car"n shots of Ralf spanking the Williams >> > around the course. Awesome!! >> And wasn't the "in-car" sound of the Williams just gorgeous. Why can't we

get >> sounds quite that good in our sims. Before anyone lectures me about the number of >> decibels, I was listening to the broadcast at a pretty low volume so as not to >> wake the entire household. >> Cheers, >> Paul