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ThrustMaster Force GT in NR2

8 posts by 4 people · 07 Mar 1999 - 08 Mar 1999

TJU 07 Mar 1999#454499
Hi there Does anybody got a problem bringing up the Nascar Force GT in Windows 95. Actually I install the wheel and pass the tests in the little program send by thrustmaster. When I install the Nascar Racing I can move the wheel during the self test an all is detected but when I lauch the game it's another problem. Nothing is working. I really ask me if I've done a good choice with this wheel and if I always got such problems it could be better just to choose a simple wheel like the Nascar Pro or the F1 model. Can you please help me..... TIJU
ymenard 07 Mar 1999#454500
TJU wrote <snip> Another time... Force Feedback wheels don't work with DOS-type games. Sorry :( The best thing for you is to buy Nascar Racing : 1999 Edition since it has a Windows mode to enable FF-wheels. -= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -= May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
That's a myth Fran?ois. What makes the digital wheels not work in N2 is the calibration routine created by Papy. It works great for analog wheels, but it just can't read the digital signals in the FF/Digital wheels. It's not Dos, it's Papyrus. gary243
ymenard 07 Mar 1999#454502
Gary Silverman wrote So that's why most of the people can't make their FF wheel work with most of the Rally Titles (IRC, RAC Championship), Grand Prix 2 (unless they tweak some things), etc.. ? And this is why that FF joysticks also have difficulties calibrating with most of the air sims working in DOS ? It must be "just" Papyrus ;) -= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -= May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
My point is that the digital wheels can be made to work in DOS. When those games were originally produced there was no such thing as digital controllers, so they did not have to worry about that when creating their calibration programs. If the makers of those games/sims no longer support those games, then nothing can really be done. But Papyrus still sell and promote N2 (via NROS), so they should continue to support it. Think about it, the most popular racing sim in the US does not work with 75% of the steering wheels currently being sold in stores. With some re-working in the calibration routine Papyrus could have support for digital controllers. Think about it, if you use the Papyrus calibration routine in NR1999 under windows the digital wheel will not work (remember this is in Windows), but if you switch to the DirectX option it does work. If it were only a DOS problem then the wheel would be able to calibrate under the Papyrus option. gary243
ymenard 08 Mar 1999#454678
Gary Silverman wrote 75% ? what's this a fact, or pure invention ? <g> But somehow you have point, but it's not only Papyrus here, there's plenty of companies who have Dos-based titles and just don't care to make patches for them. Geeze N2 is 2 and a half years old, they have better things at Papyrus to care and to put their staff on. It's up to the customer to buy it's hardware depending on the software they run. -= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -= May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
When I go to CompUSA I see a Thrustmaster FF, Microsoft FF, Logitech FF, and Thrustmaster Pro wheel. Now there are others like the Interact V4 Force and the Per4mer wheels, but somebody would have to drunk to buy any of these two. Normally I would agree with this. But they still sell and promote the game via NROS. Does this mean that they should no longer make any changes to NROS, because the sim is too old. The least they could do is put NR1999 Win95/98 on TEN. By the way, I can't speak for the other manufactures, but on the box of the MS wheel it says that the wheel will have basic wheel functionality in MS-DOS mode (I think being able to drive in a straight line would fall under basic). gary243
Greg Cisko 08 Mar 1999#454680
Quoted text (9 lines)>Gary Silverman wrote >>Think about >>it, the most popular racing sim in the US does not work with 75% of the >>steering wheels currently being sold in stores. >75% ? what's this a fact, or pure invention ? <g> >But somehow you have point, but it's not only Papyrus here, there's plenty >of companies who have Dos-based titles and just don't care to make patches
Rumor has it that the wheels will work with DOS games, but not N2/N99 because of the joystick optimization ***(for NROS). So you point doesn't wash :-) -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

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