Your favorite kind of corner?

For me, I am best at (and most enjoy) "compound" corners, such as Eau Rouge (T1 Spa) and Maison Blanche (last turn Le Mans). It is more of an intutive feel sort of thing rather than pure technique: I actually beat Achim out of both corners, and fight him to a draw at Malmedy @ Spa. Kind of satisfying to load up speedtrack on Replay Analyser, and see that short section of track which is "green" (he of course slaughters me everywhere else-all that red bleeding all over the track...). I also love the Masta Kink-gotta respect that lurking monster! But just give me a typical generic left or right, and I am simultaneously bored, slow, and frustrated, tho I am learning to use throttle w/ the brake, which is helping. I'd like to see more compound corners in the addon tracks (Leipzig has some of those-tight little esses in very quick succession). John DiFool

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>For me, I am best at (and most enjoy) "compound" corners, >such as Eau Rouge (T1 Spa) and Maison Blanche (last >turn Le Mans). It is more of an intutive feel sort of thing >rather than pure technique: I actually beat Achim out of >both corners, and fight him to a draw at Malmedy @ Spa. >Kind of satisfying to load up speedtrack on Replay >Analyser, and see that short section of track which is >"green" (he of course slaughters me everywhere else-all >that red bleeding all over the track...). I also love the Masta >Kink-gotta respect that lurking monster! > >But just give me a typical generic left or right, and I am >simultaneously bored, slow, and frustrated, tho I am >learning to use throttle w/ the brake, which is helping. >I'd like to see more compound corners in the addon >tracks (Leipzig has some of those-tight little esses >in very quick succession).

I do better at the tracks that have short, 'sweeping' corners. Zeltweg, Zandvoort, etc. Since I can't seem to get good exit speeds on sharp corners, I get KILLED on tracks that feature a lot of those - Monaco, Norisring, Salsburg 74. However, if the sweepers are too long, I can't mantain the speed that others seem to keep. Think Stavelot at Spa - I lose a TON of time there, and don't know how to fix that. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"John DiFool" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Kind of satisfying to load up speedtrack on Replay > Analyser, and see that short section of track which is > "green" Personally I like variety rather than just certain types of corners. I think I know the section you mean at the 'ring, with the hedges. Every time I go through at speed I feel it willing me to keep it in 3rd to the first bridge, but you need to be inch perfect & use all the road to do it. Very satisfying to get right hot-lapping, and a big relief when you get through it in a race ;-) Malc.

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 19:11:12 GMT, John DiFool <[email hidden]> wrote: >Best corner Imagine you practiced 4 weeks to get a good result in the deciding race of your league. Twenty hotheads are revving the engine and turning the front wheels waiting for the startflag to drop. You're placed 8th on the grid. No Shift R, a full GP length race. Your thoughts are wandering off. The first turn. Curve Grande. Oh my. Will I survive? Nothing beats Turn 1 at Monza.... Remco

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> In article <[email hidden]>, John DiFool ><[email hidden]> writes: > >>For me, I am best at (and most enjoy) "compound" corners, >>such as Eau Rouge (T1 Spa) and Maison Blanche (last >>turn Le Mans). It is more of an intutive feel sort of thing >>rather than pure technique: I actually beat Achim out of >>both corners, and fight him to a draw at Malmedy @ Spa. >>Kind of satisfying to load up speedtrack on Replay >>Analyser, and see that short section of track which is >>"green" (he of course slaughters me everywhere else-all >>that red bleeding all over the track...). I also love the Masta >>Kink-gotta respect that lurking monster! >> >>But just give me a typical generic left or right, and I am >>simultaneously bored, slow, and frustrated, tho I am >>learning to use throttle w/ the brake, which is helping. >>I'd like to see more compound corners in the addon >>tracks (Leipzig has some of those-tight little esses >>in very quick succession). > > I do better at the tracks that have short, 'sweeping' corners. > Zeltweg, Zandvoort, etc. Since I can't seem to get good exit speeds on > sharp corners, I get KILLED on tracks that feature a lot of those - > Monaco, Norisring, Salsburg 74. > > However, if the sweepers are too long, I can't mantain the speed that > others seem to keep. Think Stavelot at Spa - I lose a TON of time > there, and don't know how to fix that. > > Eldred

Exactly the same for me. I do better on the tracks full of sequences of shallow 3D corners. Good examples are sections of the 'Ring between Bergwerk and the back straight (well, actually most of the track too), first 13-15 km at Janakkala, first half of Sachsenring. Alex.

The esses at Watkins Glen. Really any turn that has to be taken flat in order to get a respectable laptime, but where taking the corner flat often results in chaos. The kink in Masta, Dunlop at Le Mans. Both kinks on the front straight of the mid 90's Vancouver are interesting (the one that's flat, and the one that you hit at nearly top speed and have to slow down/turn simultaneously). Turns 1, 2, and the run down to Moss at Gripsport can be interesting. Pretty much every turn at Zandy except for Tarzan. The fast sweepers at the beginning of Rouen and the flat out right hander at the top of the hill. The chicane at Monaco. The only time I can stand a slow corner is if it comes after a VMax moment or is descending in radius. The hairpin at Magny Cours is a great place to mow the lawn. Turn 1 at Mexico is tricky and feels awesome when you take it reasonably quickly. Come to think of it, I think the only 4 corners I truly loathe are at Talladega. Jason

T2-T3 at Mosport comes to mind for me.

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> On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 19:11:12 GMT, John DiFool > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Best corner > > > Imagine you practiced 4 weeks to get a good result in the deciding > race of your league. Twenty hotheads are revving the engine and > turning the front wheels waiting for the startflag to drop. > > You're placed 8th on the grid. No Shift R, a full GP length race. > Your thoughts are wandering off. The first turn. Curve Grande. Oh my. > Will I survive? Nothing beats Turn 1 at Monza.... > > > Remco

Variante Ascari at Monza I think is the best turn in GPL. If you stay in the groove you can pin the pedal to the floor and skate through that corner defying the laws of physics. I think I lose all track of time in that turn. My house could be burning down and I'd have to finish that corner first. ;-)

I have problems with mid-speed corners, especially longish mid-speed corners. I end up either approaching them like low speed or high speed corners, and lose a bunch of time either way. Ryan

My best corners are the one's you don't have to brake for :) -Larry "John DiFool" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> For me, I am best at (and most enjoy) "compound" corners, > such as Eau Rouge (T1 Spa) and Maison Blanche (last > turn Le Mans). It is more of an intutive feel sort of thing > rather than pure technique: I actually beat Achim out of > both corners, and fight him to a draw at Malmedy @ Spa. > Kind of satisfying to load up speedtrack on Replay > Analyser, and see that short section of track which is > "green" (he of course slaughters me everywhere else-all > that red bleeding all over the track...). I also love the Masta > Kink-gotta respect that lurking monster! > > But just give me a typical generic left or right, and I am > simultaneously bored, slow, and frustrated, tho I am > learning to use throttle w/ the brake, which is helping. > I'd like to see more compound corners in the addon > tracks (Leipzig has some of those-tight little esses > in very quick succession). > > John DiFool >

My biggest challange at Lemans (short of not flying off the track, of course) was at the kink on the long straight. With the setup we were using, with no draft, the speed was 215. I'm sure everyone was the same. My challange was getting through there without seeing it drop to 214. I managed to do it a couple of times, but it's real hard. -Larry "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <[email hidden]>, John DiFool > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >For me, I am best at (and most enjoy) "compound" corners, > >such as Eau Rouge (T1 Spa) and Maison Blanche (last > >turn Le Mans). It is more of an intutive feel sort of thing > >rather than pure technique: I actually beat Achim out of > >both corners, and fight him to a draw at Malmedy @ Spa. > >Kind of satisfying to load up speedtrack on Replay > >Analyser, and see that short section of track which is > >"green" (he of course slaughters me everywhere else-all > >that red bleeding all over the track...). I also love the Masta > >Kink-gotta respect that lurking monster! > > > >But just give me a typical generic left or right, and I am > >simultaneously bored, slow, and frustrated, tho I am > >learning to use throttle w/ the brake, which is helping. > >I'd like to see more compound corners in the addon > >tracks (Leipzig has some of those-tight little esses > >in very quick succession). > > I do better at the tracks that have short, 'sweeping' corners. Zeltweg, > Zandvoort, etc. Since I can't seem to get good exit speeds on sharp

corners, I > get KILLED on tracks that feature a lot of those - Monaco, Norisring,Salsburg > 74. > > However, if the sweepers are too long, I can't mantain the speed thatothers > seem to keep. Think Stavelot at Spa - I lose a TON of time there, anddon't

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> know how to fix that. > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > Member > Screamers Racing League > IICC League > GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 > ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 > Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress > N2k3 rank:in progress > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Interesting thread. I don't know that I have a favorite type of corner, but off the top of my head, some great sections (in addition to the ones you already mentioned): - The esses at Watkins Glen - The whole bloody lap at Zandvoort -- Ped Xing GPLRank -31.657 "A good racing driver doesn't really look like he's going that fast; but in fact it's a clean, smooth, progressive performance that supplies the real speed." -Sir Jackie Stewart

Ped Xing <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > - The whole bloody lap at Zandvoort > About halfway up the 67 gpl hill at Zandvoort, if you have FF, then it can be magic as the car twitches right to left to right and the climb up to the stone bridge. That is a cool section...WHEN I get it right. dave henrie

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Road Atlanta....T1 thru T5.....that slight T1 dip, then uphill, those great downhill esses, that superb T4, ending in that short, fast T5 sweeper....great when you get it right.....bb "John DiFool" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> For me, I am best at (and most enjoy) "compound" corners, > such as Eau Rouge (T1 Spa) and Maison Blanche (last > turn Le Mans). It is more of an intutive feel sort of thing > rather than pure technique: I actually beat Achim out of > both corners, and fight him to a draw at Malmedy @ Spa. > Kind of satisfying to load up speedtrack on Replay > Analyser, and see that short section of track which is > "green" (he of course slaughters me everywhere else-all > that red bleeding all over the track...). I also love the Masta > Kink-gotta respect that lurking monster! > > But just give me a typical generic left or right, and I am > simultaneously bored, slow, and frustrated, tho I am > learning to use throttle w/ the brake, which is helping. > I'd like to see more compound corners in the addon > tracks (Leipzig has some of those-tight little esses > in very quick succession). > > John DiFool >