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GPL framerate/lap time....related??

9 posts by 8 people · 28 Feb 1999 - 01 Mar 1999

rob 28 Feb 1999#453138
You can definitely go faster with better framerate. I'm not saying the game incorrectly deviates from realtime, but your control is so much better with a good framerate that you frankly don't have a chance racing at 15 fps. rob. >I was wondering...if im getting a dismal FPS (about 15) will my lap time be >inherently slower even though my speeds match with some of the hotlaps ive >seen. Example: I turned a 1:32.52 in the Ferrari at Monza but compared it to >another Ferrari lap there (Greame's 1:28 something) and i was only about 2 MPH >slower at the ends of the straights and was just about the same through Ascari >and Lesmos 1&2. Is it possible that the slower time has to do with my abysmal >FPS and some sort of odd warping? >Thanks, >Chris
Schlomo4 01 Mar 1999#453321
I was wondering...if im getting a dismal FPS (about 15) will my lap time be inherently slower even though my speeds match with some of the hotlaps ive seen. Example: I turned a 1:32.52 in the Ferrari at Monza but compared it to another Ferrari lap there (Greame's 1:28 something) and i was only about 2 MPH slower at the ends of the straights and was just about the same through Ascari and Lesmos 1&2. Is it possible that the slower time has to do with my abysmal FPS and some sort of odd warping? Thanks, Chris
Maybe you did do driving an other league? (GP1, GP2 & GP3) -- Greetinx Micha?l 'NRG' Hompus Webmaster The Fast Lane http://www.grandprix2.com/gpl Everything you need for GPL !!! >You can definitely go faster with better framerate. I'm not saying >the game incorrectly deviates from realtime, but your control is >so much better with a good framerate that you frankly don't have >a chance racing at 15 fps. >rob. >>I was wondering...if im getting a dismal FPS (about 15) will my lap time be >>inherently slower even though my speeds match with some of the hotlaps ive >>seen. Example: I turned a 1:32.52 in the Ferrari at Monza but compared it >to >>another Ferrari lap there (Greame's 1:28 something) and i was only about 2 >MPH >>slower at the ends of the straights and was just about the same through >Ascari >>and Lesmos 1&2. Is it possible that the slower time has to do with my >abysmal >>FPS and some sort of odd warping? >>Thanks, >>Chris
Schlomo4 01 Mar 1999#453323
No im positive that it was the GP car cause i was pulling 10,000 RPM on the straights
Quoted text (7 lines)>I was wondering...if im getting a dismal FPS (about 15) will my lap time be >inherently slower even though my speeds match with some of the hotlaps ive >seen. Example: I turned a 1:32.52 in the Ferrari at Monza but compared it to >another Ferrari lap there (Greame's 1:28 something) and i was only about 2 MPH >slower at the ends of the straights and was just about the same through Ascari >and Lesmos 1&2. Is it possible that the slower time has to do with my abysmal >FPS and some sort of odd warping?
Save some replays of your laps and see if they are smooth. It seems, that the replays always get saved at 36 fps, and it's easier to playback a replay at 36 fps, since the computer doesn't have to monitor your inputs at that point anymore. The fps you see while you are playing is just the displayed fps, the physics engine and 'other stuff' still try to run at the optimal speed and the display gets updated only when there's time for that. So, unless your PC is below the minimum required (don't know what that is), you are probably just a bit slow. As someone already mentioned, it is easier to make faster laptimes if your computer can also update the display at 36 fps, since you can control the car more smoothly, because of the smoother visual feedback. And smoothness is the key to driving these cars fast. -Juha --
Thad Failor 01 Mar 1999#453325
I have seen the opposite. I tend to run around 25-34 fps (can get it to 36 fps, but have turn everything off). I can run faster laps on my computer, then I can on my friends system. (He gets 36 fps all the time). Here is why I think I get better times on my system. Slow fps = slower response time = later braking into the turns. My Wheel/pedals comb is exactly that: wheels and pedals His setup is a wheel with finger paddles I think I react faster with hand movements then I do with foot movements. Faster hand movements = earlier braking. Got to remember, all of my braking points, are for my system. So, when I race on his machine, I tend to use my braking points. This = slower lap times on a system that can run 36fps all the time. Not much slower(about half a sec.), but slower non the less. Thad
Leo Landman 01 Mar 1999#453326
>Is it possible that the slower time has to do with my abysmal >FPS and some sort of odd warping? Framerate and reported lap times are related in F1RS but not in GPL. Whatever the frame rate, GPL always displays the correct lap time. You can check this yourself using a stopwatch. The only relationship between fps and lap times is that's almost impossible to drive at the limit with low fps. Bye, Leo
SteveBla 01 Mar 1999#453327
Slow FPS; yes, warping; no. A couple of mph all the way down Monza's long straights adds up to a good bit of time. To really tell the difference in your laps versus the quicker guys, use the forward/back/slo-mo controls on the fast lap replays and step through them to see where their braking points are and what their minimum apex speeds are. Compare those to yours and you'll find what you're looking for. You can also take split times(only to 1 sec. accuracy though) to see where you're losing ground. Higher FPS will definitely help your control in the corners, and thus your lap times. Of course Graeme's running a P200, I think, so Heaven help us if he upgrades. :-) Steve B. remove "edy" from address for email
Wosco 01 Mar 1999#453328
I have hand paddles and food pedals (2 steering wheels) and i am 2 seconds slower with the hand paddles cause i am not used to them, i think if you used your normal pedal and wheel setup on his computer then you would be faster. >I have seen the opposite. I tend to run around 25-34 fps (can get it to 36 >fps, but have turn everything off). I can run faster laps on my computer, >then I can on my friends system. (He gets 36 fps all the time). Here is why >I think I get better times on my system. Slow fps = slower response time = >later braking into the turns. My Wheel/pedals comb is exactly that: wheels >and pedals His setup is a wheel with finger paddles I think I react faster
Quoted text (12 lines)>with hand movements then I do with foot movements. Faster hand movements = >earlier braking. Got to remember, all of my braking points, are for my >system. So, when I race on his machine, I tend to use my braking points. >This = slower lap times on a system that can run 36fps all the time. Not >much slower(about half a sec.), but slower non the less. >Thad >>I was wondering...if im getting a dismal FPS (about 15) will my lap time
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Quoted text (13 lines)>>inherently slower even though my speeds match with some of the hotlaps ive >>seen. Example: I turned a 1:32.52 in the Ferrari at Monza but compared it >to >>another Ferrari lap there (Greame's 1:28 something) and i was only about 2 >MPH >>slower at the ends of the straights and was just about the same through >Ascari >>and Lesmos 1&2. Is it possible that the slower time has to do with my >abysmal >>FPS and some sort of odd warping? >>Thanks, >>Chris

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