Indianapolis 500 Legends

The more and more I play GPL, I just cant seem to stop thinking what a great game "Indianapolis 500 Legends" would be. If Papruys took the GPL physics engine and portrayed the mid to late 1960's era, when rear engine cars began to replace front engine cars. They could have the Watson Roadster, the Lotus-Fords, the Brawner-Hawk, even the famous "Whooshmobile"... We could have drivers like, AJ Foyt, Mario Andretti, Jim Clark, Parnelli Jones, Lloyd Ruby, Johnny Rutherford and so on. Indy has always (up until the IRL) had a special allure and to relive that on our computers would be awesome!!! Maybe if we can petition Papy, they will create this great game? Jeff Lipack

I'd buy! --Dave

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> The more and more I play GPL, I just cant seem to stop thinking what a > great > game "Indianapolis 500 Legends" would be. If Papruys took the GPL > physics > engine and portrayed the mid to late 1960's era, when rear engine cars > began > to replace front engine cars. They could have the Watson Roadster, the > Lotus-Fords, the Brawner-Hawk, even the famous "Whooshmobile"... We > could have drivers like, AJ Foyt, Mario Andretti, Jim Clark, Parnelli > Jones, > Lloyd Ruby, Johnny Rutherford and so on. Indy has always (up until the > IRL) > had a special allure and to relive that on our computers would be > awesome!!! > Maybe if we can petition Papy, they will create this great game? > Jeff Lipack

-- Dave Schwabe The Aussie Toad -- Grand Prix Legends & Brabham site http://users.wi.net/~schwabe

Excellent Idea!

On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 15:23:16 -0500, Jeff Lipack >The more and more I play GPL, I just cant seem to stop thinking what a >great >game "Indianapolis 500 Legends" would be. <much snipped> Jeff, Other than trying to license all those drivers, cars ,etc the only thing I can see stopping them is Mr. Tony George. You are dreaming I'd guess. He appears to be as difficult to deal with as Mr. Ecclestone. On the positive side, I read in the Sierra magazine "Interaction" that Sierra's president considers GP Legends to be a "franchise in training". So at least we see that there might be a future set of releases.. Jeff Haas

What's wrong with Bernie? The more wads you stuff into your suitcase the easier he is to deal with. I don't see how the man could make things any more straightforward than that! Cheers! John

I'd buy it yesterday! And since IMS has changed layouts I wonder if making a track to resemble it's 60's layout would still be 'tied up' in any current license agreements?? Great idea! AKH > The more and more I play GPL, I just cant seem to stop thinking what a > great > game "Indianapolis 500 Legends" would be.

On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 15:23:16 -0500, Jeff Lipack >The more and more I play GPL, I just cant seem to stop thinking what a >great >game "Indianapolis 500 Legends" would be. I'd start it in the mid 50s when the roadsters were all-pervasive except of course for the occasional, almighty NOVI, then the early 60s with the Cooper "funny car", the Loti, the ill-fated Mickey Thompson efforts, and finally the full blown rear-engine revolultion. Gawdamity! That would be a **blast!!** Are you listening, Papy? _ |\_ \` ..\ ======================================= ." ) IGN6 -- The Maxx Chrysler 300M #77 _ / , \/\_ TPTCC -- Dawn Comics Peugeot #77 ((____| )_-\ \_-` ======================================= `-----'`-----` `--` USGP at Indianapolis -- Sept 2000!

Wow, wow, wow....and another wow. Being from Indiana myself, it'd be a definite buy. Yeah, I'd sign a petition to Papy, IMS, all the drivers, and anyone else we needed to persuade. This is an awesome idea. I really think that Papy should create a "Legends" series, taking some of the great series and recreating years that were so long ago. Great idea you have Jeff!

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> The more and more I play GPL, I just cant seem to stop thinking what a > great > game "Indianapolis 500 Legends" would be. If Papruys took the GPL > physics > engine and portrayed the mid to late 1960's era, when rear engine cars > began > to replace front engine cars. They could have the Watson Roadster, the > Lotus-Fords, the Brawner-Hawk, even the famous "Whooshmobile"... We > could have drivers like, AJ Foyt, Mario Andretti, Jim Clark, Parnelli > Jones, > Lloyd Ruby, Johnny Rutherford and so on. Indy has always (up until the > IRL) > had a special allure and to relive that on our computers would be > awesome!!! > Maybe if we can petition Papy, they will create this great game? > Jeff Lipack

>What's wrong with Bernie? The more wads you stuff into your suitcase >the easier he is to deal with. I don't see how the man could make >things any more straightforward than that! >Cheers! >John John, That in itself is the problem I'd say. It may be straightforward but it still remains difficult for smaller budget sim houses ! Jeff

I would look forward to this more than i did GPL!!! Indy has a huge appeal to race fans. Only other thing to mention is tracks. I would want it to include Milluakee, Ontario, Trenton, and some of the other tracks from the Era. But even if it was just Indy...Id still buy it in a heartbeat!! Chris

HOw bout the old track called Langhorne. Andretti siad it was a widowmaker. Dave

It was -- it was a big dirt circle, and as the race went on, it got worse and worse ruts. A real disaster waiting to happen, and it often did, but if you won there, you really accomplished something. Every now and then, Speedvision will show an old film of a Langhorne race -- AJ Foyt won it and when the race was over, you could see that he was totally exhausted... _ |\_ \` ..\ ======================================= ." ) NASSCAR Miskatonic Chrysler 300M #77 _ / , \/\_ TPTCC TSR2 Honda Accord #77 ((____| )_-\ \_-` ======================================= `-----'`-----` `--` USGP at Indianapolis -- Sept 2000!

There lots and lots of classes and era's this engine would work with. More than one company could ever cover. These are the extentions we should all be working on, if Sierra had the balls of id software and released the code and tools to the net. >The more and more I play GPL, I just cant seem to stop thinking what a >great >game "Indianapolis 500 Legends" would be. If Papruys took the GPL >physics >engine and portrayed the mid to late 1960's era

Oh yea!!!! Hoe i forgot that one i dont know. I guess i was thinking pavement not dirt. Theres actually a 1 1/2 hr video out somewhere about the track. I dont know where to get it though. Wish it was still around. Anyone who has seen the current 16th Street Speedway in Indy (if you havent seen Langhorne itself in person) knows the action a track thats run like a circle produces. Now if they would just make a Dirt Track Legends so we could run Flemington, Syracuse, Langhorne, and the like.... Chris

the last few years they ran at Langhorne it was paved.

Andretti drove it on dirt for the first time with a car with no power steering. He said his hands were like hamburger meat when he finished.

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> >HOw bout the old track called Langhorne. Andretti siad it was a > >widowmaker. > It was -- it was a big dirt circle, and as the race went on, it got > worse and worse ruts. A real disaster waiting to happen, and it often > did, but if you won there, you really accomplished something. Every > now and then, Speedvision will show an old film of a Langhorne race -- > AJ Foyt won it and when the race was over, you could see that he was > totally exhausted... > _ |\_ > \` ..\ ======================================= > ." ) NASSCAR Miskatonic Chrysler 300M #77 > _ / , \/\_ TPTCC TSR2 Honda Accord #77 > ((____| )_-\ \_-` ======================================= > `-----'`-----` `--` USGP at Indianapolis -- Sept 2000!

THe one turn of Langhorne speedway is still there. The area has built up immensely over the years. My father has a lot of videos of the old Langhorne Speedway. Most don't remember, but there was an 1/8 mile drag strip there too. My father and uncle destroyed a few cars there, because the shut down was so short, and the brakes on the cars sucked back then. The site is now a car dealership, K-Mart, and Levitz furniture store.

Yeah, the WHOLE 68 or 69 season would be great! Indy... and even the road course at IRP! AND the dirt stuff. That would be totally cool. BTW, does anyone know when they last raced on the dirt as part of the championship? I probably have info on it, but I can't seem to find it now... -_Dave

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> >HOw bout the old track called Langhorne. Andretti siad it was a > >widowmaker. > >Dave > Oh yea!!!! Hoe i forgot that one i dont know. I guess i was thinking pavement > not dirt. Theres actually a 1 1/2 hr video out somewhere about the track. I > dont know where to get it though. Wish it was still around. Anyone who has > seen the current 16th Street Speedway in Indy (if you havent seen Langhorne > itself in person) knows the action a track thats run like a circle produces. > Now if they would just make a Dirt Track Legends so we could run Flemington, > Syracuse, Langhorne, and the like.... > Chris

-- Dave Schwabe The Aussie Toad -- Grand Prix Legends & Brabham site http://users.wi.net/~schwabe

This is an educated guess but i think it was 72 or 73 before they stopped racing dirt. For a while i know the pavement cars had wings while the dirt didnt so it had to be the 70s.

> I would look forward to this more than i did GPL!!! Indy has a huge appeal to > race fans. Only other thing to mention is tracks. I would want it to include > Milluakee, Ontario, Trenton, and some of the other tracks from the Era. But > even if it was just Indy...Id still buy it in a heartbeat!! This sim if ever produced would be a instant success with long time race fans. What gpl is to grand prix racing, Indy 500 Legends most certainly would be to Cart fans. Now if only someone would consider making a sim of the glory years of the Can-Am. Joel Willstein

>> I would look forward to this more than i did GPL!!! Indy has a huge appeal to >> race fans. Only other thing to mention is tracks. I would want it to include >> Milluakee, Ontario, Trenton, and some of the other tracks from the Era Ohhhhhh....Phoenix when it was DIRT....start running it in a front-engine roadster and you get the start of Mario Andretti's career (a tire test at Phoenix) Kirk Lane

I will have to check on that. I thought he was offered a ride from Clint Brawner after Clint saw him run at some of hte Eastern dirt ovals Dave

>>What gpl is to grand prix racing, Indy 500 Legends most >>certainly would be to Cart fans. Now if only someone would consider >>making a sim of the glory years of the Can-Am. >Can we get an AMEN Brothers and Sisters! Guys , you took the words right out of my mouth. Dave Ewing

Don't forget Road America, Don! :-) The kink in a 68 McLaren!! :-) --Dave

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> >What gpl is to grand prix racing, Indy 500 Legends most > >certainly would be to Cart fans. Now if only someone would consider > >making a sim of the glory years of the Can-Am. > Can we get an AMEN Brothers and Sisters! > Can you imagine an M8A through the Corkscrew at Laguna or a 917 30K launching > down the backstraight at Riverside? > -don

-- Dave Schwabe The Aussie Toad -- Grand Prix Legends & Brabham site http://users.wi.net/~schwabe

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>Don't forget Road America, Don! :-) The kink in a 68 McLaren!! :-) >--Dave >> >What gpl is to grand prix racing, Indy 500 Legends most >> >certainly would be to Cart fans. Now if only someone would consider >> >making a sim of the glory years of the Can-Am.

I'd have to say i'd prefer early 80's Group C sportscars, myself. Z Please remove NOSPAM from my email address when replying.