Actlabs steering wheel

Hey everyone, I just looked at the act labs RS steering wheel and the pedals look pretty horizontal. I was wondering how they were. I prefer vertical pedals (realistic) and I was wondering if it was more like steping on teh pedals rather than pushing on them. I have tryed semi horizontal pedals and they just dont give you any feel of a car, i like my nascar pro cause of the vert pedals. So how are the pedals for the act labs? Jesse

The ACT pedals are very horizontal. You're basically pushing straight down on them. Personally, I prefer them to my T2 pedals for exactly that reason, you're ankles don't get tired. They also have a much shorter range of travel than the T2 pedals, but it isn't a problem (for me, anyways) once you get used to it. They're big and heavy, and if you use them on a carpeted floor they don't slide. At all. I find them quite comfy during long races. But the wheel is the high point, feels great and ZERO dead spot. Zog

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> Hey everyone, > I just looked at the act labs RS steering wheel and the pedals look pretty > horizontal. I was wondering how they were. I prefer vertical pedals > (realistic) and I was wondering if it was more like steping on teh pedals > rather than pushing on them. I have tryed semi horizontal pedals and they > just dont give you any feel of a car, i like my nascar pro cause of the vert > pedals. So how are the pedals for the act labs? > Jesse

-- Don't let the bastards grind you down. Doug Schneider Bedford, Nova Scotia Canada

Will it autocenter (like the MS wheel) for not FF games? -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com >The ACT pedals are very horizontal. You're basically pushing straight down on >them. Personally, I prefer them to my T2 pedals for exactly that reason, you're >ankles don't get tired. They also have a much shorter range of travel than the >T2 pedals, but it isn't a problem (for me, anyways) once you get used to it. >They're big and heavy, and if you use them on a carpeted floor they don't >slide. At all. I find them quite comfy during long races. But the wheel is >the high point, feels great and ZERO dead spot. > Zog >> Hey everyone, >> I just looked at the act labs RS steering wheel and the pedals look pretty >> horizontal. I was wondering how they were. I prefer vertical pedals >> (realistic) and I was wondering if it was more like steping on teh pedals >> rather than pushing on them. I have tryed semi horizontal pedals and they >> just dont give you any feel of a car, i like my nascar pro cause of the vert >> pedals. So how are the pedals for the act labs? >> Jesse >-- >Don't let the bastards grind you down. >Doug Schneider >Bedford, Nova Scotia >Canada

The original poster only said RS (which is non-FF). The force RS does auto-center in non-FF games (but not in GPL :( ). The pedals do move downward instead of forward. I find that a lot more comfortable, and it reduces the slippage of the pedals. You can probably get used to using either type of pedals, though, and both would be comfortable. -- Pat Dotson IMPACT Motorsports http://www.impactmotorsports.com/pd.html > Will it autocenter (like the MS wheel) for not FF games?

Yeah, mine does, but I've heard of some people having problems with it. There's a slider to set the intensity of the "spring" effect, which simulates the centering provided by a bungee cord in non-FF wheels. I set that to about 25% and it feels pretty normal. One thing you've gotta take into consideration is that since it connects via the com port, it won't work with some games, including, unfortunately, Nascar 2. Zog

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> Will it autocenter (like the MS wheel) for not FF games? > -- > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com > >The ACT pedals are very horizontal. You're basically pushing straight down > on > >them. Personally, I prefer them to my T2 pedals for exactly that reason, > you're > >ankles don't get tired. They also have a much shorter range of travel than > the > >T2 pedals, but it isn't a problem (for me, anyways) once you get used to > it. > >They're big and heavy, and if you use them on a carpeted floor they don't > >slide. At all. I find them quite comfy during long races. But the wheel > is > >the high point, feels great and ZERO dead spot. > > Zog > >> Hey everyone, > >> I just looked at the act labs RS steering wheel and the pedals look > pretty > >> horizontal. I was wondering how they were. I prefer vertical pedals > >> (realistic) and I was wondering if it was more like steping on teh pedals > >> rather than pushing on them. I have tryed semi horizontal pedals and > they > >> just dont give you any feel of a car, i like my nascar pro cause of the > vert > >> pedals. So how are the pedals for the act labs? > >> Jesse > >-- > >Don't let the bastards grind you down. > >Doug Schneider > >Bedford, Nova Scotia > >Canada

-- Don't let the bastards grind you down. Doug Schneider Bedford, Nova Scotia Canada

Well force and non force is what im looking at, most likely force if i go for it.

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>The original poster only said RS (which is non-FF). The >force RS does auto-center in non-FF games (but not in >GPL :( ). >The pedals do move downward instead of forward. I find >that a lot more comfortable, and it reduces the slippage >of the pedals. You can probably get used to using >either type of pedals, though, and both would be >comfortable. >-- >Pat Dotson >IMPACT Motorsports >http://www.impactmotorsports.com/pd.html >> Will it autocenter (like the MS wheel) for not FF games?

> The original poster only said RS (which is non-FF). The > force RS does auto-center in non-FF games (but not in > GPL :( ). That seems technically impossible, as the game, eeh, sim is not involved in the auto-centering. So, if it doesn't auto-center in GPL, how would it happen in any other game? l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

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> > The original poster only said RS (which is non-FF). The > > force RS does auto-center in non-FF games (but not in > > GPL :( ). > That seems technically impossible, as the game, eeh, sim > is not involved in the auto-centering. So, if it doesn't > auto-center in GPL, how would it happen in any other game?

The on-board force effect processor is supposed to revert to auto-centering if no software FF support is present. The wheel will auto-center while you are looking at the Win95 desktop, and also if you reboot to DOS. Something about GPL disables this function! I can't imagine why it would be difficult to fix :( -- ------------------------------------------------------ IMPACT Motorsports http://www.impactmotorsports.com/pd.html ------------------------------------------------------

The new patch has enabled auto-center for non-FF games like GPL. Adjustable level of centering. It works well. The new patch also enables separate axis for brake and accel. BTW, you should hang out over at www.force-1.com's discussion board. ACT Labs guys read it regularly. Yippee38

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> Will it autocenter (like the MS wheel) for not FF games? > -- > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com > >The ACT pedals are very horizontal. You're basically pushing straight down > on > >them. Personally, I prefer them to my T2 pedals for exactly that reason, > you're > >ankles don't get tired. They also have a much shorter range of travel than > the > >T2 pedals, but it isn't a problem (for me, anyways) once you get used to > it. > >They're big and heavy, and if you use them on a carpeted floor they don't > >slide. At all. I find them quite comfy during long races. But the wheel > is > >the high point, feels great and ZERO dead spot. > > Zog > >> Hey everyone, > >> I just looked at the act labs RS steering wheel and the pedals look > pretty > >> horizontal. I was wondering how they were. I prefer vertical pedals > >> (realistic) and I was wondering if it was more like steping on teh pedals > >> rather than pushing on them. I have tryed semi horizontal pedals and > they > >> just dont give you any feel of a car, i like my nascar pro cause of the > vert > >> pedals. So how are the pedals for the act labs? > >> Jesse > >-- > >Don't let the bastards grind you down. > >Doug Schneider > >Bedford, Nova Scotia > >Canada

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I've heard that this patch does not add dual axis, I'm having a hard time getting one answer on this... can I go read it somewhere concretely? >The new patch has enabled auto-center for non-FF games like GPL. Adjustable >level of centering. It works well. The new patch also enables separate axis >for brake and accel. >BTW, you should hang out over at www.force-1.com's discussion board. ACT Labs

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>guys read it regularly. >Yippee38 >> Will it autocenter (like the MS wheel) for not FF games? >> -- >> Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. >> cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com >> >The ACT pedals are very horizontal. You're basically pushing straight

down >> on >> >them. Personally, I prefer them to my T2 pedals for exactly that reason, >> you're >> >ankles don't get tired. They also have a much shorter range of travel than >> the >> >T2 pedals, but it isn't a problem (for me, anyways) once you get used to >> it. >> >They're big and heavy, and if you use them on a carpeted floor they don't >> >slide. At all. I find them quite comfy during long races. But the wheel

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>> is >> >the high point, feels great and ZERO dead spot. >> > Zog >> >> Hey everyone, >> >> I just looked at the act labs RS steering wheel and the pedals look >> pretty >> >> horizontal. I was wondering how they were. I prefer vertical pedals >> >> (realistic) and I was wondering if it was more like steping on teh

pedals >> >> rather than pushing on them. I have tryed semi horizontal pedals and >> they >> >> just dont give you any feel of a car, i like my nascar pro cause of the

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>> vert >> >> pedals. So how are the pedals for the act labs? >> >> Jesse >> >-- >> >Don't let the bastards grind you down. >> >Doug Schneider >> >Bedford, Nova Scotia >> >Canada > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News

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ok, to answer my own question, off of the act labs site: "NEW!!!! - We recommend everyone download this new driver. Independent Pedal Axis support! " also in respoinse to Johm Bodin's earlier p[ost in another thread... "If you go with the full ACT Labs PDPI/RS combo, you also get split-axis support" this dosn't seem to be the case anymore for the force feedback version, but it has yet to ber implimented in the non force it seeems...

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>I've heard that this patch does not add dual axis, I'm having a hard time >getting one answer on this... >can I go read it somewhere concretely? >>The new patch has enabled auto-center for non-FF games like GPL. >Adjustable >>level of centering. It works well. The new patch also enables separate >axis >>for brake and accel. >>BTW, you should hang out over at www.force-1.com's discussion board. ACT >Labs >>guys read it regularly. >>Yippee38 >>> Will it autocenter (like the MS wheel) for not FF games? >>> -- >>> Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. >>> cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com >>> >The ACT pedals are very horizontal. You're basically pushing straight >down >>> on >>> >them. Personally, I prefer them to my T2 pedals for exactly that >reason, >>> you're >>> >ankles don't get tired. They also have a much shorter range of travel >than >>> the >>> >T2 pedals, but it isn't a problem (for me, anyways) once you get used

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>>> it. >>> >They're big and heavy, and if you use them on a carpeted floor they >don't >>> >slide. At all. I find them quite comfy during long races. But the >wheel >>> is >>> >the high point, feels great and ZERO dead spot. >>> > Zog >>> >> Hey everyone, >>> >> I just looked at the act labs RS steering wheel and the pedals look >>> pretty >>> >> horizontal. I was wondering how they were. I prefer vertical pedals >>> >> (realistic) and I was wondering if it was more like steping on teh >pedals >>> >> rather than pushing on them. I have tryed semi horizontal pedals and >>> they >>> >> just dont give you any feel of a car, i like my nascar pro cause of >the >>> vert >>> >> pedals. So how are the pedals for the act labs? >>> >> Jesse >>> >-- >>> >Don't let the bastards grind you down. >>> >Doug Schneider >>> >Bedford, Nova Scotia >>> >Canada >> -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News >==---------- >> http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! >>------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers >==-----

I haven't verified whether the patch provides for single-axis support for the basic ACT Labs RS wheel -- I haven't tried it out myself with the basic PC cartridge, so I don't want to mislead anybody. This feature *may* exist, but I can't confirm it. I'll check with ACT Labs and try to post the response here. -- JB

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>ok, to answer my own question, off of the act labs site: >"NEW!!!! - We recommend everyone download this new driver. Independent Pedal >Axis support! " >also in respoinse to Johm Bodin's earlier p[ost in another thread... >"If you go with the full ACT >Labs PDPI/RS combo, you also get split-axis support" >this dosn't seem to be the case anymore for the force feedback version, but >it has yet to ber implimented in the non force it seeems... >>I've heard that this patch does not add dual axis, I'm having a hard time >>getting one answer on this... >>can I go read it somewhere concretely? >>>The new patch has enabled auto-center for non-FF games like GPL. >>Adjustable >>>level of centering. It works well. The new patch also enables separate >>axis >>>for brake and accel. >>>BTW, you should hang out over at www.force-1.com's discussion board. ACT >>Labs >>>guys read it regularly. >>>Yippee38 >>>> Will it autocenter (like the MS wheel) for not FF games? >>>> -- >>>> Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. >>>> cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com >>>> >The ACT pedals are very horizontal. You're basically pushing straight >>down >>>> on >>>> >them. Personally, I prefer them to my T2 pedals for exactly that >>reason, >>>> you're >>>> >ankles don't get tired. They also have a much shorter range of travel >>than >>>> the >>>> >T2 pedals, but it isn't a problem (for me, anyways) once you get used >to >>>> it. >>>> >They're big and heavy, and if you use them on a carpeted floor they >>don't >>>> >slide. At all. I find them quite comfy during long races. But the >>wheel >>>> is >>>> >the high point, feels great and ZERO dead spot. >>>> > Zog >>>> >> Hey everyone, >>>> >> I just looked at the act labs RS steering wheel and the pedals look >>>> pretty >>>> >> horizontal. I was wondering how they were. I prefer vertical pedals >>>> >> (realistic) and I was wondering if it was more like steping on teh >>pedals >>>> >> rather than pushing on them. I have tryed semi horizontal pedals and >>>> they >>>> >> just dont give you any feel of a car, i like my nascar pro cause of >>the >>>> vert >>>> >> pedals. So how are the pedals for the act labs? >>>> >> Jesse >>>> >-- >>>> >Don't let the bastards grind you down. >>>> >Doug Schneider >>>> >Bedford, Nova Scotia >>>> >Canada >>> -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News >>==---------- >>> http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! >>>------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers >>==-----

Oops -- I mis-read your post. I know that split-axis support is provided on the PDPI/RS combo, but I don't know about the basic RS wheel itself. I also can't confirm whether or not it's supported on the Force RS wheel. Sorry for the lack of info on this . . . -- JB

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>ok, to answer my own question, off of the act labs site: >"NEW!!!! - We recommend everyone download this new driver. Independent Pedal >Axis support! " >also in respoinse to Johm Bodin's earlier p[ost in another thread... >"If you go with the full ACT >Labs PDPI/RS combo, you also get split-axis support" >this dosn't seem to be the case anymore for the force feedback version, but >it has yet to ber implimented in the non force it seeems... >>I've heard that this patch does not add dual axis, I'm having a hard time >>getting one answer on this... >>can I go read it somewhere concretely? >>>The new patch has enabled auto-center for non-FF games like GPL. >>Adjustable >>>level of centering. It works well. The new patch also enables separate >>axis >>>for brake and accel. >>>BTW, you should hang out over at www.force-1.com's discussion board. ACT >>Labs >>>guys read it regularly. >>>Yippee38 >>>> Will it autocenter (like the MS wheel) for not FF games? >>>> -- >>>> Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. >>>> cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com >>>> >The ACT pedals are very horizontal. You're basically pushing straight >>down >>>> on >>>> >them. Personally, I prefer them to my T2 pedals for exactly that >>reason, >>>> you're >>>> >ankles don't get tired. They also have a much shorter range of travel >>than >>>> the >>>> >T2 pedals, but it isn't a problem (for me, anyways) once you get used >to >>>> it. >>>> >They're big and heavy, and if you use them on a carpeted floor they >>don't >>>> >slide. At all. I find them quite comfy during long races. But the >>wheel >>>> is >>>> >the high point, feels great and ZERO dead spot. >>>> > Zog >>>> >> Hey everyone, >>>> >> I just looked at the act labs RS steering wheel and the pedals look >>>> pretty >>>> >> horizontal. I was wondering how they were. I prefer vertical pedals >>>> >> (realistic) and I was wondering if it was more like steping on teh >>pedals >>>> >> rather than pushing on them. I have tryed semi horizontal pedals and >>>> they >>>> >> just dont give you any feel of a car, i like my nascar pro cause of >>the >>>> vert >>>> >> pedals. So how are the pedals for the act labs? >>>> >> Jesse >>>> >-- >>>> >Don't let the bastards grind you down. >>>> >Doug Schneider >>>> >Bedford, Nova Scotia >>>> >Canada >>> -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News >>==---------- >>> http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! >>>------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers >>==-----

I received the following information from ACT Labs regarding split axis support for the basic ACT Labs RS wheel. It seems that the new drivers will NOT provide split axis support for the RS wheel, unfortunately: <FROM ACT LABS> The regular RS PC cartridge does not support split-axis. It is the hardware, not the driver that determines this in this case. I think the confusion comes because the latest driver revision for the Force RS included split axis support. In that case, the hardware can support 3 analog axis. The RS PC cartridge supports only 2. Future versions of the PC cartridge will likely include split-axis support, though this will not be available anytime soon. Existing RS owners will of course be able to purchase the revised engine for use with their present wheel, when it becomes available.

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>ok, to answer my own question, off of the act labs site: >"NEW!!!! - We recommend everyone download this new driver. Independent Pedal >Axis support! " >also in respoinse to Johm Bodin's earlier p[ost in another thread... >"If you go with the full ACT >Labs PDPI/RS combo, you also get split-axis support" >this dosn't seem to be the case anymore for the force feedback version, but >it has yet to ber implimented in the non force it seeems... >>I've heard that this patch does not add dual axis, I'm having a hard time >>getting one answer on this... >>can I go read it somewhere concretely? >>>The new patch has enabled auto-center for non-FF games like GPL. >>Adjustable >>>level of centering. It works well. The new patch also enables separate >>axis >>>for brake and accel. >>>BTW, you should hang out over at www.force-1.com's discussion board. ACT >>Labs >>>guys read it regularly. >>>Yippee38 >>>> Will it autocenter (like the MS wheel) for not FF games? >>>> -- >>>> Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. >>>> cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com >>>> >The ACT pedals are very horizontal. You're basically pushing straight >>down >>>> on >>>> >them. Personally, I prefer them to my T2 pedals for exactly that >>reason, >>>> you're >>>> >ankles don't get tired. They also have a much shorter range of travel >>than >>>> the >>>> >T2 pedals, but it isn't a problem (for me, anyways) once you get used >to >>>> it. >>>> >They're big and heavy, and if you use them on a carpeted floor they >>don't >>>> >slide. At all. I find them quite comfy during long races. But the >>wheel >>>> is >>>> >the high point, feels great and ZERO dead spot. >>>> > Zog >>>> >> Hey everyone, >>>> >> I just looked at the act labs RS steering wheel and the pedals look >>>> pretty >>>> >> horizontal. I was wondering how they were. I prefer vertical pedals >>>> >> (realistic) and I was wondering if it was more like steping on teh >>pedals >>>> >> rather than pushing on them. I have tryed semi horizontal pedals and >>>> they >>>> >> just dont give you any feel of a car, i like my nascar pro cause of >>the >>>> vert >>>> >> pedals. So how are the pedals for the act labs? >>>> >> Jesse >>>> >-- >>>> >Don't let the bastards grind you down. >>>> >Doug Schneider >>>> >Bedford, Nova Scotia >>>> >Canada >>> -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News >>==---------- >>> http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! >>>------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers >>==-----

Hi folks! Ok dumb question...... On my PC I have an internal modem and a serial mouse connected to both COM ports. Is there any way I can connect the Force RS to my PC since it doesn't support USB (right now)??? Thanks Sharad Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

assuming that you only have two com ports, you can buy a convertor that allows you to use a serial mouse in the normal mouse port (if you have such a connection).