Whats up will reviewers and sims. They are so against every one, especially
Avault. Its like they are payed by EA to flame every release. But how is
he to compare an arcade game to a sim. He is complaining cause a sim doesnt
hae enough arcade features in it. They should not let NFS guys review sims,
thats the problem. Do good flight sims get bad credits? Do they say that
some space game is much better cause it is easier to fly? no they rate the
realism of teh sim.
Jesse
computer-controlled
> vehicles, and the availability (in addition to the NASCAR Winston Cup Series)
> of the NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series and NASCAR Busch Grand National
> Series (formerly available as an add-on pack for NASCAR 2). Lastly, NASCAR
vehicles
Hey rrevved
I've been watching your posts here and you are obviously the most informed
about NREV. I hope you slammed AVAULT with an email about there obvious
bias.
Thanks for keeping us all informed.
Doug
computer-controlled
> vehicles, and the availability (in addition to the NASCAR Winston Cup Series)
> of the NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series and NASCAR Busch Grand National
> Series (formerly available as an add-on pack for NASCAR 2). Lastly, NASCAR
vehicles
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>Avault trashes another Papyrus release. 3 stars (***) for N1999. >http://avault.com/reviews/review_temp.asp?game=nas99&page=1 >Here are a few of the more ludicrous comments: > "EA's forthcoming NASCAR Revolution, on the other hand, has many > more arcade elements in it, including that you do not have to tinker as > much with the engine setup to have a decent chance of winning." >Engine tinkering? How do I do that? Has this guy even attempted to >drive or tune a car in N1999 or N2, for that matter? > "NASCAR Racing 1999 Edition sports only modest improvements when > compared to its predecessor NASCAR 2. The graphics are very similar, > with minor improvements, the audio, interface, and gameplay are virtually > unchanged. >He says 'modest improvements' and that gameplay is 'virtually unchanged. >THEN, he says: > "What is different here is the presence of 11 new tracks, updated 1998 > season information, improved artificial intelligence forQuoted text (10 lines)
> Racing 1999 Edition has finally moved up to native Windows 95/98 and > 3Dfx support from the old DOS drivers of its predecessor." >uhhh.. let's look at the 'modest improvements' and 'virtually unchanged' >gameplay. Very nice 3DFX support. A whole new series with the trucks. >Buttloads of new and improved tracks. Win95/98 support. BGN for those who >didn't buy the expansion pack. Folks, this may not be Nascar3, but it is a >VERY nice upgrade and didn't deserve the 3 star rating.. > "In all, this game contains an astounding total of over 60 drivers andQuoted text (9 lines)
> that you can command on any of 35 tracks." >Uhh.. for $30 this ain't a bad deal. The reviewer has a thing for Papyrus, >apparently. >Avault, you ignorant sluts. >-- >// rrevved posts from mindspring dot comWhat did you expect???? GPL got trashed and it was revolutionary upon
release. N1999 IS a 3 year old physics engine.
Avault definantly showed me they were slanted towards ARCADE style titles
when GPL was released. So, I took my reading time elsewhere.
If you want to read GOOD reveiws on racing sims, read racing sim sites. if
you want to be pissed off by bad reviews, visit arcade sites.
Not sure if I wanna thank you or not for the post, as I vowed not to read
avault again......and up to your post, i kept it up.
CNET usually is pretty strait forwarsd about reveiws, in terms of NET
reading, and GPL did get the racing game of the year, even being a ***
sim title, and the reveiw even stated the fact, and didnt give it the
highest rating.......but yet, they saw the BRILLIANCE in Papy's vision of
recreating both the thrill of the unsafe 60's F1 racing, and totally
recreating a new physics engine for their sims.
When N3 comes out, a bad review for it from Avault wont ruin my thousands of
hours of enjoyment I will get from it, and I strongly recommending to any
other sim fan, not letting it bother any of you.
Take your surfing elsewhere if it does.
JT
>uhhh.. let's look at the 'modest improvements' and 'virtually unchanged'
>gameplay. Very nice 3DFX support. A whole new series with the trucks.
>Buttloads of new and improved tracks. Win95/98 support. BGN for those who
>didn't buy the expansion pack. Folks, this may not be Nascar3, but it is a
>VERY nice upgrade and didn't deserve the 3 star rating..
I doubt that someone looking at the game would care too much about
that. 3DFX support was already available from internet, new tracks
likewise, new car shapes likewise, etc etc. I can understand the
sentiments behind the release of N99 but for me it is like MGPRS2. Yes
it _is_ a nice product, but it's not a new product and not worthy of
another full price release if you already have N2 and/or BGN. If you
don't already have either of those it's a great buy, but if you didn't
buy N2 I can't see people buying N99. In short the people who will buy
it are those who are already into N2, already own it (and probably BGN
too) and will then pay a full price for a few additional features.
There's no particular problem with that, those people are fans and
will feel value for money from that and get a lot of enjoyment, but
that doesn't mean a reviewer will or should feel the same way. Like
MGPRS2 it is, in itself, a great product (although pretty overshadowed
by GPL these days), but taken in context of what has gone before, what
is newly on offer and what is being charged I don't see it as
particularly good. Just IMO of course.
Not in this case. I don't see it as being an especially "good deal"
given current market offerings and prices. In context of what it costs
to produce in man hours and in the hours of pleasure it will offer to
fans who buy it perhaps it is, but to the public at large who already
have N2 and will doubtless have N3 on the agenda soon it seems to much
to ask or expect.
Cheers!
John
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>I can understand the >sentiments behind the release of N99 but for me it is like MGPRS2. Yes >it _is_ a nice product, but it's not a new product and not worthy of >another full price release if you already have N2 and/or BGN. If you >don't already have either of those it's a great buy, but if you didn't >buy N2 I can't see people buying N99. In short the people who will buy >it are those who are already into N2, already own it (and probably BGN >too) and will then pay a full price for a few additional features.No, I'm not in the U.S., why should that change my opinion? In any
case, the point of making software is to make money - if Sierra gives
you all your money back then the only reason to release this product
is to hurt competitor's products. You return one old game and
presumably won't buy someone else's since you are buying N99.
Spirit of fair competition? Don't know who the man is....
Cheers!
John
