Electronic Arts gets rights to FORMULA ONE .....

Well who wants a realistic modern-day F1 simulator anyway? We would never be able to overtake anyone! : ) -- Robin. http://www.oppositelock.freeserve.co.uk Nurburgring and Grand Prix Legends Remove nospam from e-mail address to reply >uh-oh...... >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >http://avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=2221999-93640 >Monday, February 22, 1999 - 09:36 CST >Electronic Arts Signs Formula One License >Source: Electronic Arts >Electronic Arts has announced it has secured the rights to the coveted >international motorsports license Formula One. The company plans to >develop games based on Formula One cars and races for leading console >platforms and the PC. Financial terms of the deal were not released. >The multi-year license gives Electronic Arts worldwide interactive >rights to the FIA Formula One Drivers' and Constructors' World >Championships including drivers, teams, cars and tracks on the Formula >One circuit. >EA claims an estimated audience of over five billion fans watching >races either in person or on television last year made Formula One the >world's largest spectator sport. With 16 races visiting five >continents over an eight-month period each year, it is unique as a >truly global sport. >Reported by: David Laprad >-- >// rrevved posts from mindspring dot com

Now that I think about it though, who would you rather have it? SEGA who creates games that are as real as images from a bad acid trip. Or EA, who has dipshits working on physics and realism, but at least it resembles the real thing from appearances. Well, either way. I say the whole world of motorsports should go to Papy, Bethesda, or Motorsport Simulations Inc. <G> However, it still doesn't say that EA has an exclusive liscence. So is there still hope?

And there's even more there today: [link lost in import] Monday, February 22, 1999 - 09:43 CST Motorsport Simulations Enters Partnership With SCAA [sic SCCA] Source: Motorsport Simulations Motorsport Simulations has announced the signing of a long-term agreement with the Sports Car Club of America to develop and publish computer games based on a number of SCCA sanctioned properties. This partnership gives Motorsport Simulations the exclusive rights to the majority of the SCCA's racing formats and classes, which include Sports Racing, Tin Tops, Formula Racing, Formula Continental, and ProRally. Formally launched in January, Motorsport Simulations was founded by Internet *** veteran Bob McCarthy. Beginning this summer, Motorsport Simulations will offer racing game enthusiasts simulation games and online competition in a number of racing categories. The company has already announced a long term deal with the American Motorcyclist Association to produce games based on AMA events. Reported by: David Laprad Copyright 1995-1999 [ NewWorld.com, Inc ] All Rights Reserved

Jack wrote <snip> Wow as bad the first news was, this really makes my day ! It would be nice to have a great SCCA simulator with similar idea from Gran Turismo. Get license, move up steps, solo, solo2, etc.. P.S: Think about "Formula 1" a la EA Sports. LOL ok you can stop puking now ;( The only thing that could save it is if they take the SportsCar GT game engine. -= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -= May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

I doubt that would make it much better, IMO anyway. I stand, as ever, hoping to be corrected. Cheers! John

Can't wait for the '***-Schumi' ads... Keith

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>uh-oh...... >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >http://avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=2221999-93640 >Monday, February 22, 1999 - 09:36 CST >Electronic Arts Signs Formula One License >Source: Electronic Arts >Electronic Arts has announced it has secured the rights to the coveted >international motorsports license Formula One. The company plans to >develop games based on Formula One cars and races for leading console >platforms and the PC. Financial terms of the deal were not released. >The multi-year license gives Electronic Arts worldwide interactive >rights to the FIA Formula One Drivers' and Constructors' World >Championships including drivers, teams, cars and tracks on the Formula >One circuit. >EA claims an estimated audience of over five billion fans watching >races either in person or on television last year made Formula One the >world's largest spectator sport. With 16 races visiting five >continents over an eight-month period each year, it is unique as a >truly global sport. >Reported by: David Laprad >-- >// rrevved posts from mindspring dot com

>Well, either way. I say the whole world of >motorsports should go to Papy, Bethesda... Please, anyone but Bethesda. I've never forgiven those bastards for shelving the greatest sports sim ever made (Wayne gretzky Hockey for the Amiga). 'Course EA's just about as bad for any sim fan, EA probably paid off Bethesda to do it since EA's sports sims suck so badly. Joe

> But if EA have rights to F1, this means that any GP3 in production will have > fictional drivers and cars. > Not so bad, as long as they include a car editor! Then again, I'm sure > someone will edit them a few days after the release! But is the licence exclusive? Maybe both could have access to the licence? Crammond/Microprose better put some serious effort into the graphics engine or EA will walk away with the lion's share of the market. Maybe they will anyway - aggresive advertising can work wonders. Cheers, Paul

That's a good point. If the deal had been exclusive, their press release certainly would have said so, and from the original post, it appears that it did not.

If everyone will write to EA & tell them to make a sim at least as good as 'GPL' or better they will have a winner! Sadly Ubisoft dropped the ball from F1rs to Mgprs2. So if you want great sim form EA tell the them now and they will send the request, comments, complaints & info to ther design programersand they do read r.a.s. I have already been told this by EA members.. So keep sending those cards & letters to EA! They will listen.. Remember they want to make money not lose it! ^Fretts...

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>uh-oh...... >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >http://avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=2221999-93640 >Monday, February 22, 1999 - 09:36 CST >Electronic Arts Signs Formula One License >Source: Electronic Arts >Electronic Arts has announced it has secured the rights to the coveted >international motorsports license Formula One. The company plans to >develop games based on Formula One cars and races for leading console >platforms and the PC. Financial terms of the deal were not released. >The multi-year license gives Electronic Arts worldwide interactive >rights to the FIA Formula One Drivers' and Constructors' World >Championships including drivers, teams, cars and tracks on the Formula >One circuit. >EA claims an estimated audience of over five billion fans watching >races either in person or on television last year made Formula One the >world's largest spectator sport. With 16 races visiting five >continents over an eight-month period each year, it is unique as a >truly global sport. >Reported by: David Laprad >-- >// rrevved posts from mindspring dot com

Hmm, but where do we e-mail them at? I once searched on their website trying to find an e-mail address to alert them that the Win95.CIH was contaminated in there Staccaco Sound Demo download late last year.

This is awesome. Motorsport Simulations has shown GREAT promise from screenshots at their website, and an SCCA sim would really be amazing.

>uh-oh...... No kidding! Oh well I guess that my copy of F1RS is good for the long haul. I have no faith that GP3 (if it even is a reality) will even equal what F1RS has. Namely 3D graphics and weather. I see this as a good thing :-) -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

You got that wrong there stick and ball sports sims (ie. Madden '99, NHL '99) kick ass and are realistic yet very fun. Honestly I found Nascar '98 to be a fun arcade racer and great for when I just wanted to race and not tinker with the car, but it in no way replaced the realism of Nascar 2. On the other hand I rented Nascar '99 for Playstation and it sucked, the cars went too slow and there was no sensation of speed. It seems as though EA's motorsport games are more hit and miss and mostly arcade games with some (poorly implemented) sim elements.

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> >Well, either way. I say the whole world of > >motorsports should go to Papy, Bethesda... > Please, anyone but Bethesda. I've never forgiven those bastards for > shelving the greatest sports sim ever made (Wayne gretzky Hockey for > the Amiga). 'Course EA's just about as bad for any sim fan, EA > probably paid off Bethesda to do it since EA's sports sims suck so > badly. > Joe

If NHL '99 ain't real hockey tell me what is.

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> >You got that wrong there stick and ball sports sims (ie. Madden '99, NHL > >'99) kick ass and are realistic yet very fun. > That's completely wrong. Some people like NHL 99 and Madden 99 as > arcade games (which is fine, more power to 'em) but niether is even > close enough to realistic as to be labeled a sim. They are as much a > sports sim as NFS 3 is an auto sim. Especially NHL 99 - hopelessly > unrealistic and unlike real hockey. > Joe

Patrick Shumar wrote Oh well. Maybe it's more close to the "American" version of how they are trying to show you what's hockey but let me tell you if THAT is real hockey I won't put skates for the rest of my life. 1) Unrealistic puck physics. Even EA admitted that they didn't focused alot on it. There's almost no gravity, no weight to the puck and the friction is about non-existant. Those slapshots they do in real-life would kill the goalies. 2) Unrealistic overall gameplay. No way this is how hockey is. Stricly offence, with a 3-0-2 position of "everything or die". No real defense, it's attack attack attack all the time. No real positioning of the players, you just go for the puck and pass to who is the closest. 3) Unrealistic AI. It goes somehow with 2), but Im sorry those AI would never be drafted by the NHL. They can't rotate in a true way, their backward skating is bad they can change direction without loosing speed (in reality you need to curve your "S" when your going backwards sharply and loose alot of speed). They are always in constant motion. It's incredible they go and turn around and around and around and never stops. In real life you are as often in "sliding" movement or even stopped as in full skating mode. Btw, I won't go further (this is off-topic for r.a.s.) but go take a peek at comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.sports and check out how bad EA is flamed because of their NHL series and how unrealistic they are. If the only hockey you know is the one you watch on FOX, Im very sorry for you. -= Quebecois have Hockey in their ***. Montreal is the Mecca of Hockey. -= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -= May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

>You got that wrong there stick and ball sports sims (ie. Madden '99, NHL >'99) kick ass and are realistic yet very fun. That's completely wrong. Some people like NHL 99 and Madden 99 as arcade games (which is fine, more power to 'em) but niether is even close enough to realistic as to be labeled a sim. They are as much a sports sim as NFS 3 is an auto sim. Especially NHL 99 - hopelessly unrealistic and unlike real hockey. Joe

Ooo! Does this mean they might have a sim with SCCA amateur club racing classes? If so, I have a Sport Racer they can use in the game <G>. That would be great to practice for the Runoffs with the chicane at Mid-Ohio. Lutrell :-) D Sport Racer #74 http://www2.scca.com/amateur/club_racing/runoffs/photogal/dsr-74.jpg >And there's even more there today: This partnership gives

: -= Quebecois have Hockey in their ***. Montreal is the Mecca of Hockey. Shame about the Nordiques... Stephen

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>>P.S: Think about "Formula 1" a la EA Sports. LOL ok you can stop puking now >>;( The only thing that could save it is if they take the SportsCar GT game >>engine. >I doubt that would make it much better, IMO anyway. I stand, as ever, >hoping to be corrected. >Cheers! >John

John, I'm guessing from your reply that you've seen the Sportscar GT engine in action and are not impressed? I hope I'm wrong. Mike

Status: N I'm curious as to in what manner you mean "dropped the ball" ? Once you've spent 10 mins downloading and adding the replacement graphics, MGPRS2 is the finest modern F1 simulator around by a county mile. Z.

was there any word on whether the licence was exclusive? i wouldn't worry about cars and drivers (somebody always makes a carset) but what about tracks? are they included in these agreements? or are they separate? i guess there's nothing we can do about it, but i'd feel better if someone- anyone- other than EA could make F1 sims that include the real deals. that "***-schu" comment was hilarious, BTW. a bit off topic- i agree that EA's other sports games- esp. NHL99- aren't very realistic. but i do think they are fun (something to be said for that), and if you don't use that stupid turbo, you do allow something like defense sometimes.... in much the same way i wouldn't be opposed entirely to an NRev-type of game if it at least offered some fun gameplay. too bad it doesn't.... of course, it never was (and wouldn't even be in that case) a _sim_ and we probably shouldn't even talk about it here.... just my $.02.... mark

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that Geoff Crammond had not committed to using MicroProse as his publisher for GP3. Maybe he'll take his code to EA (When its released in March 2027). JMD.

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>was there any word on whether the licence was exclusive? >i wouldn't worry about cars and drivers (somebody always makes a carset) >but what about tracks? are they included in these agreements? or are they >separate? >i guess there's nothing we can do about it, but i'd feel better if someone- >anyone- >other than EA could make F1 sims that include the real deals. >that "***-schu" comment was hilarious, BTW. >a bit off topic- i agree that EA's other sports games- esp. NHL99- aren't

very >realistic. but i do think they are fun (something to be said for that), and if you >don't use that stupid turbo, you do allow something like defense sometimes.... >in much the same way i wouldn't be opposed entirely to an NRev-type of game if it >at least offered some fun gameplay. too bad it doesn't.... of course, it never was >(and wouldn't even be in that case) a _sim_ and we probably shouldn't even talk >about it here.... just my $.02.... >mark