RASETCC - Bathurst

Already Thursday and my best so far is only a low 1:22. The rest of you had better be faster than that because, I want to tell you, this track is too narrow to allow any passing. If you're not in front of me at the start, you're not going to get by unless (until!) I spin off. And where the track _is_ wide enough, I'm all over it anyway, so you're still not going get past. The car is downright squirrelly under braking, and the run down through the twisty bits from Holden to the straight is a barely managed disaster. Nice scenery though! Does the paddock clubhouse serve VB after the race? I'm goning to need one. -- Darryl

Darryl Johnson wrote: > Already Thursday and my best so far is only a low 1:22. The rest of you > had better be faster than that because, I want to tell you, this track > is too narrow to allow any passing. If you're not in front of me at the > start, you're not going to get by unless (until!) I spin off. Hi Darryl: I hope you mean 2:22. If not you are going to be lapping me on the third lap. How many laps are we doing? I show 40% as 5 laps. I'd like to figure a fuel load so I don't run out of gas this time. Larry

I hope you meant 3:22 or Im in trouble hehe. Im down in the 2.30's pretty consistent. The final gear is just not right, one is to high the other is to low. Bathurst is quite a track. This track just kinda sucks you along ;) Mitch Larry Lindstrom wrote:

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> Hi Darryl: > > I hope you mean 2:22. If not you are going to be lapping > me on the third lap. > > How many laps are we doing? I show 40% as 5 laps. I'd > like to figure a fuel load so I don't run out of gas this time. > > Larry

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> I hope you meant 3:22 or Im in trouble hehe. Im down in the 2.30's > pretty consistent. The final gear is just not right, one is to high the > other is to low. Bathurst is quite a track. This track just kinda > sucks you along ;) Is this the dodgy version that was converted from TRD?

40 laps Larry. Can't share any times as although I know the track from NR2003, I haven't done any laps in ETCC yet. I'll get some done today. Regards "Larry Lindstrom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Darryl Johnson wrote: > > Already Thursday and my best so far is only a low 1:22. The rest of you > > had better be faster than that because, I want to tell you, this track > > is too narrow to allow any passing. If you're not in front of me at the > > start, you're not going to get by unless (until!) I spin off. > > Hi Darryl: > > I hope you mean 2:22. If not you are going to be lapping > me on the third lap. > > How many laps are we doing? I show 40% as 5 laps. I'd > like to figure a fuel load so I don't run out of gas this time. > > Larry

Picky, picky!! <LOL!!> Yeah, it was probably 2.22, or 3.22, or even 4.22. <g> I cranked the gear ratios up (down?) a bit to get more speed on that long straight. Now, if the car wasn't so twitchy under braking, I might be able to get around the first part of the chicane before I started braking. But it _is_ twitchy, so I start braking even before I start easing right. I think I'm getting up to around 268 before I back off and gradually start slowing down. KPH. -- Darryl Mitch_A wrote in news:t72Ob.11857$[email hidden]: > I hope you meant 3:22 or Im in trouble hehe. Im down in the > 2.30's pretty consistent. The final gear is just not right, one > is to high the other is to low. Bathurst is quite a track. This > track just kinda sucks you along ;) > > Mitch > > > > Larry Lindstrom wrote: > >> Hi Darryl: >> >> I hope you mean 2:22. If not you are going to be lapping >> me on the third lap. >> >> How many laps are we doing? I show 40% as 5 laps. I'd >> like to figure a fuel load so I don't run out of gas this time. >> >> Larry >

When are you guys running? Spud. "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:LUzNb.19876$[email hidden]...

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> Already Thursday and my best so far is only a low 1:22. The rest of you > had better be faster than that because, I want to tell you, this track > is too narrow to allow any passing. If you're not in front of me at the > start, you're not going to get by unless (until!) I spin off. > > And where the track _is_ wide enough, I'm all over it anyway, so you're > still not going get past. The car is downright squirrelly under > braking, and the run down through the twisty bits from Holden to the > straight is a barely managed disaster. > > Nice scenery though! Does the paddock clubhouse serve VB after the > race? I'm goning to need one. > > -- > Darryl

Noon ET. pw is 'ras' and you're more than welcome :) Regards "Spudster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:BmnOb.152159$X%5.74530@pd7tw2no...

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> When are you guys running? > > Spud. > > "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:LUzNb.19876$[email hidden]... > > Already Thursday and my best so far is only a low 1:22. The rest of you > > had better be faster than that because, I want to tell you, this track > > is too narrow to allow any passing. If you're not in front of me at the > > start, you're not going to get by unless (until!) I spin off. > > > > And where the track _is_ wide enough, I'm all over it anyway, so you're > > still not going get past. The car is downright squirrelly under > > braking, and the run down through the twisty bits from Holden to the > > straight is a barely managed disaster. > > > > Nice scenery though! Does the paddock clubhouse serve VB after the > > race? I'm goning to need one. > > > > -- > > Darryl > >

Thanks, I`ll be there. "Neil Charlton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:budo27$s5o$[email hidden]...

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> Noon ET. pw is 'ras' and you're more than welcome :) > > Regards > > "Spudster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:BmnOb.152159$X%5.74530@pd7tw2no... > > When are you guys running? > > > > Spud. > > > > "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:LUzNb.19876$[email hidden]... > > > Already Thursday and my best so far is only a low 1:22. The rest of

you > > > had better be faster than that because, I want to tell you, this track > > > is too narrow to allow any passing. If you're not in front of me atthe > > > start, you're not going to get by unless (until!) I spin off. > > > > > > And where the track _is_ wide enough, I'm all over it anyway, soyou're

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> > > still not going get past. The car is downright squirrelly under > > > braking, and the run down through the twisty bits from Holden to the > > > straight is a barely managed disaster. > > > > > > Nice scenery though! Does the paddock clubhouse serve VB after the > > > race? I'm goning to need one. > > > > > > -- > > > Darryl > > > > > >

I think I got DQ'd when I flew through that kink coming down the long hill straight :) Talk about un-stable breaking. I was turnin some of my best laps ever 2.18's but my tires only lasted 4-5 laps and were yellow, assuming fronts were on the right side of the lcd. Im also assuming yellow is worst in F1C mods? Ive looked but cant find a F1C tire heat/color chart anywhere. Question: I drive an Alfa so when Im in the setup screens is front and back reversed? It shows a pic of a BMW (rear wheel drive). How about the LCD in car? Is the front of an Alfa towards the right? Maybe this is my problem, I think I'm softening the front when actually softeneing the rear. Mitch "Spudster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XwyOb.158086$JQ1.66916@pd7tw1no...

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> Thanks, I`ll be there. > > "Neil Charlton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:budo27$s5o$[email hidden]... > > Noon ET. pw is 'ras' and you're more than welcome :) > > > > Regards > > > > "Spudster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:BmnOb.152159$X%5.74530@pd7tw2no... > > > When are you guys running? > > > > > > Spud. > > > > > > "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:LUzNb.19876$[email hidden]... > > > > Already Thursday and my best so far is only a low 1:22. The rest of > you > > > > had better be faster than that because, I want to tell you, this

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> > > > is too narrow to allow any passing. If you're not in front of me at > the > > > > start, you're not going to get by unless (until!) I spin off. > > > > > > > > And where the track _is_ wide enough, I'm all over it anyway, so > you're > > > > still not going get past. The car is downright squirrelly under > > > > braking, and the run down through the twisty bits from Holden to the > > > > straight is a barely managed disaster. > > > > > > > > Nice scenery though! Does the paddock clubhouse serve VB after the > > > > race? I'm goning to need one. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Darryl > > > > > > > > > > > >

I think red or pink is worst. I doubt that they have reversed the LCD display, but if you want to make sure you can always check the tire temps in the setup screen. "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%ABOb.2914$[email hidden]... > I think I got DQ'd when I flew through that kink coming down the long hill > straight :) Talk about un-stable breaking. I was turnin some of my best > laps ever 2.18's but my tires only lasted 4-5 laps and were yellow,assuming > fronts were on the right side of the lcd. Im also assuming yellow isworst > in F1C mods? Ive looked but cant find a F1C tire heat/color chartanywhere. > > Question: > > I drive an Alfa so when Im in the setup screens is front and backreversed?

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> It shows a pic of a BMW (rear wheel drive). How about the LCD in car? Is > the front of an Alfa towards the right? Maybe this is my problem, I think > I'm softening the front when actually softeneing the rear. > > Mitch > > > "Spudster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:XwyOb.158086$JQ1.66916@pd7tw1no... > > Thanks, I`ll be there. > > > > "Neil Charlton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:budo27$s5o$[email hidden]... > > > Noon ET. pw is 'ras' and you're more than welcome :) > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > "Spudster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:BmnOb.152159$X%5.74530@pd7tw2no... > > > > When are you guys running? > > > > > > > > Spud. > > > > > > > > "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:LUzNb.19876$[email hidden]... > > > > > Already Thursday and my best so far is only a low 1:22. The rest

of > > you > > > > > had better be faster than that because, I want to tell you, this > track > > > > > is too narrow to allow any passing. If you're not in front of meat

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> > the > > > > > start, you're not going to get by unless (until!) I spin off. > > > > > > > > > > And where the track _is_ wide enough, I'm all over it anyway, so > > you're > > > > > still not going get past. The car is downright squirrelly under > > > > > braking, and the run down through the twisty bits from Holden to

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> > > > > straight is a barely managed disaster. > > > > > > > > > > Nice scenery though! Does the paddock clubhouse serve VB after the > > > > > race? I'm goning to need one. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Darryl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

A very strange race, to say the least. I had never practiced a pit stop, although I had made a mental note of where the pit entrance was. How unusual that when those of us who tried a refueling stop rolled into the pits, there was not a pit board or pit crew to be seen. So, according to the standings when I retired (the last to do so), I won the race. Actually, I think Spud was out in front. He just tried his pit stop -- and retired -- before I did. (Thanks for waiting for me, Spud. Sorry I couldn't give you more entertainment value after your taking the trouble to wait.) Poor Neil had to hang around waiting for the rest of us to quit before he could go out to the pub for a quick pint. What _did_ happen to you, Neil? You were in the pits for the longest time. Forget to set invulnerable on? I ran out of fingers and toes trying to keep track of the number of times I hit walls. Oh well... -- Darryl

"Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c9GOb.2325$[email hidden]... > A very strange race, to say the least. >[snip] > Poor Neil had to hang around waiting for the rest of us to quit > before he could go out to the pub for a quick pint. What _did_ happen > to you, Neil? You were in the pits for the longest time. Forget to > set invulnerable on? I ran out of fingers and toes trying to keep > track of the number of times I hit walls. > No Darryl, I just crash a lot better than you. You are less skilled in this respect, needing several attempts to end your race whereas the first time I touch a wall I am able to put my car on it's roof and behind a wall at the same time. Takes years of practice but you'll get the hang of it eventually ;) I felt a bit guilty actually. I bogged off for something to eat and when I returned you'd all quit. One day soon we'll get one of these things to go off nicely. What idiot suggested Bathurst ;) On that note, anyone have any ideas for next week's track as I'm not going to compound my errors by repeating them. Regards

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> "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:c9GOb.2325$[email hidden]... > >>A very strange race, to say the least. >> > > [snip] >

What idiot suggested Bathurst ;)

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> > On that note, anyone have any ideas for next week's track as I'm not going > to compound my errors by repeating them. > > Regards > > >

Hey guys, Bathurst oozes with character but isn't conducive to a fun and close door-handle-rubbing race. Howbout we do Brands Hatch GP next race? It should make for very close lap times between us. Or, here's a site with a list of tracks available for ETCC: http://hsw.hu/etcc03tracks/etcc.htm Either download from here or F1RST can install automatically for you. I was going to suggest Chatham, (remember that great little hybrid oval-roadcourse from SCGT?) but it won`t download from this site nor is it available on F1RST... bummer. Spud.

Based on what seems to be popular lately on F1rst how about Laguna Seca? Hard to find many other races and I really hate practicing alone. Mitch "Spudster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:r7nPb.202908$ts4.63059@pd7tw3no...

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> Neil Charlton wrote: > > > "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:c9GOb.2325$[email hidden]... > > > >>A very strange race, to say the least. > >> > > > > [snip] > >

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> Based on what seems to be popular lately on F1rst how about Laguna > Seca? Hard to find many other races and I really hate practicing > alone. > > Mitch > > "Spudster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:r7nPb.202908$ts4.63059@pd7tw3no... >> Neil Charlton wrote: >> >> > "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> > news:c9GOb.2325$[email hidden]... >> > >> >>A very strange race, to say the least. >> >> >> > >> > [snip] >> > > >

Laguna or Brands: I've driven both in GPL so I hope I don't have too much track learning to do. Have you checked that there is a pit crew that isn't in the midst of a labour dispute? <g> -- Darryl

Laguna it is then - hope that's OK with all. Regards "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QDwPb.16286$[email hidden]...

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> Mitch_A wrote in > news:4AnPb.14175$[email hidden]: > > > Based on what seems to be popular lately on F1rst how about Laguna > > Seca? Hard to find many other races and I really hate practicing > > alone. > > > > Mitch > > > > "Spudster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:r7nPb.202908$ts4.63059@pd7tw3no... > >> Neil Charlton wrote: > >> > >> > "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> > news:c9GOb.2325$[email hidden]... > >> > > >> >>A very strange race, to say the least. > >> >> > >> > > >> > [snip] > >> > > > > > > > Laguna or Brands: I've driven both in GPL so I hope I don't have too > much track learning to do. Have you checked that there is a pit crew > that isn't in the midst of a labour dispute? <g> > > -- > Darryl

Are you guys using RAS TeamSpeak for these races ? I'd lilke to run some of these, but I have to be honest. I'm a total bonehead when it comes to understanding EA's SIMS, and F1C is no different :) I might try this weekend but I might need help on TeamSpeak. What kind of setups are being used ? Are all the tracks included with the ETCC Mod ? -Larry "Neil Charlton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bup64u$6d1$[email hidden]...

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> Laguna it is then - hope that's OK with all. > > Regards > > "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:QDwPb.16286$[email hidden]... > > Mitch_A wrote in > > news:4AnPb.14175$[email hidden]: > > > > > Based on what seems to be popular lately on F1rst how about Laguna > > > Seca? Hard to find many other races and I really hate practicing > > > alone. > > > > > > Mitch > > > > > > "Spudster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:r7nPb.202908$ts4.63059@pd7tw3no... > > >> Neil Charlton wrote: > > >> > > >> > "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >> > news:c9GOb.2325$[email hidden]... > > >> > > > >> >>A very strange race, to say the least. > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > [snip] > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Laguna or Brands: I've driven both in GPL so I hope I don't have too > > much track learning to do. Have you checked that there is a pit crew > > that isn't in the midst of a labour dispute? <g> > > > > -- > > Darryl > >

Larry wrote in news:6WcQb.6902$_H5.4691@lakeread06:

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> Are you guys using RAS TeamSpeak for these races ? > > I'd lilke to run some of these, but I have to be honest. I'm a > total bonehead when it comes to understanding EA's SIMS, and F1C > is no different >:) > > I might try this weekend but I might need help on TeamSpeak. > > What kind of setups are being used ? > > Are all the tracks included with the ETCC Mod ? > > -Larry >

Yes, some of us use Teamspeak (on the RASCAR server). Unfortunately, we _all_ think that we have no accents, and we each refuse to understand the thick accents used by everyone else. There's a lot of "Say what?" and "Pardon?" going on. <VBG> There are a fair number of tracks that you have to get as separate downloads. Only the F1 tracks used in the time period of the original game -- F1C -- come included. So Leguna Seca, Bathurst, Le Mans and a bunch more have to be obtained on your own. I'm having a senior moment right now regarding where _I_ got Laguna from, but here is a site that has a lot of ETCC tracks -- although not LS: http://hsw.hu/etcc03tracks/etcc.htm I just started with the default settings and played a bit with the brake bias and the gears to get the setup I'm using. There are a number of setups available with the tracks that come with the mod, and you might find using one of those as a base would work. (I used to that all the time in GPL.) BTW, if you are faster than about 1:40, you are obviously using gearing that is too high. You need to lower your gears until you are able to redline in 6th between the hair pin at the end of the start straight and the first right-hander (T3?). If you're still too fast for me, then you need to move brake bias to 100% front. Just trying to be helpful. <grin> -- Darryl

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> Larry wrote in news:6WcQb.6902$_H5.4691@lakeread06: > >> Are you guys using RAS TeamSpeak for these races ? >> >> I'd lilke to run some of these, but I have to be honest. I'm a >> total bonehead when it comes to understanding EA's SIMS, and F1C >> is no different >>:) >> >> I might try this weekend but I might need help on TeamSpeak. >> >> What kind of setups are being used ? >> >> Are all the tracks included with the ETCC Mod ? >> >> -Larry >>

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> > There are a fair number of tracks that you have to get as separate > downloads. Only the F1 tracks used in the time period of the > original game -- F1C -- come included. So Leguna Seca, Bathurst, > Le Mans and a bunch more have to be obtained on your own. I'm > having a senior moment right now regarding where _I_ got Laguna > from, but here is a site that has a lot of ETCC tracks -- although > not LS: > http://hsw.hu/etcc03tracks/etcc.htm >

BTW, you can get most -- if not all -- the tracks from F1RST. Just Host an ETCC race, then select the track you want. If you select a track that you don't have, the server will offer to install it for you. Cancel the race once the track has been downloaded. -- Darryl

In article <6WcQb.6902$_H5.4691@lakeread06>, "Larry" <[email hidden]> writes: >Are all the tracks included with the ETCC Mod ? Now I remember why I never downloaded this before... The status window says it will take 1 hour 47 minutes(and climbing) to finish... :-( I should have started last week - it might have been done by now. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 ChallengeRank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Hi Larry, Step 1 - download F1RST - kinda like VROC Step 2 - Try to host a game at Laguna - it will then download that track for you Step 3 - decide what car to drive - oversimplification is that FWD is more predictable but eats tyres Step 4 - see if any of the regulars are running that car and they'll give you a setup Step 5 - bring bucket and spade on Sunday ;) Regards "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:6WcQb.6902$_H5.4691@lakeread06...

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> Are you guys using RAS TeamSpeak for these races ? > > I'd lilke to run some of these, but I have to be honest. I'm a total > bonehead when it comes to understanding EA's SIMS, and F1C is no different > :) > > I might try this weekend but I might need help on TeamSpeak. > > What kind of setups are being used ? > > Are all the tracks included with the ETCC Mod ? > > -Larry > > "Neil Charlton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bup64u$6d1$[email hidden]... > > Laguna it is then - hope that's OK with all. > > > > Regards > > > > "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:QDwPb.16286$[email hidden]... > > > Mitch_A wrote in > > > news:4AnPb.14175$[email hidden]: > > > > > > > Based on what seems to be popular lately on F1rst how about Laguna > > > > Seca? Hard to find many other races and I really hate practicing > > > > alone. > > > > > > > > Mitch > > > > > > > > "Spudster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:r7nPb.202908$ts4.63059@pd7tw3no... > > > >> Neil Charlton wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > >> > news:c9GOb.2325$[email hidden]... > > > >> > > > > >> >>A very strange race, to say the least. > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> > [snip] > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Laguna or Brands: I've driven both in GPL so I hope I don't have too > > > much track learning to do. Have you checked that there is a pit crew > > > that isn't in the midst of a labour dispute? <g> > > > > > > -- > > > Darryl > > > > > >