GPL framerates

I have an AMD K-6 200 with a 4 meg voodoo 1. I didn't expect blinding performance from this system, but even in trainer mode with everything off but the track, minimum resolution and sounds, I'm averaging around 30 frames at Watkins Glen. Is this normal? With so much turned off, I guess I expected a little better. Training is margional at best, racing is impossible.

yeah well... i have a P200 with vodooo 1 with details on a normal setting i'll get 7fps with practice... so that's pretty unplayable... I Think I'll just have to get me a PII reeeeeeaaaaaaal soon...

Temporary fix: $32 (minus $30 rebate=$2+shipping) Diamond stealth s220. I replaced my voodoo rush on my p200mmx, and now I'm getting an average of 25 fps in practice (glen) with detail at medium, all graphics on except driver arms, mirrors at minimum, track scenery at medium. Haven't tried a real race yet, I've been too busy practicing. Brian Fox http://www.geocities.com/~foxman H lp! S m b d st l ll th v w ls fr m m k yb rd! >>I have an AMD K-6 200 with a 4 meg voodoo 1. I didn't expect blinding >>performance from this system, but even in trainer mode with everything off but >>the track, minimum resolution and sounds, I'm averaging around 30 frames at >>Watkins Glen. Is this normal? With so much turned off, I guess I expected a >>little better. Training is margional at best, racing is impossible. >yeah well... i have a P200 with vodooo 1 with details on a normal >setting i'll get 7fps with practice... so that's pretty unplayable... >I Think I'll just have to get me a PII reeeeeeaaaaaaal soon...

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>>I have an AMD K-6 200 with a 4 meg voodoo 1. I didn't expect blinding >>performance from this system, but even in trainer mode with everything off but >>the track, minimum resolution and sounds, I'm averaging around 30 frames at >>Watkins Glen. Is this normal? With so much turned off, I guess I expected a >>little better. Training is margional at best, racing is impossible. >yeah well... i have a P200 with vodooo 1 with details on a normal >setting i'll get 7fps with practice... so that's pretty unplayable... >I Think I'll just have to get me a PII reeeeeeaaaaaaal soon...

I'd say the K6 200 performance reported by GRUdad is normal, but 7fps is lower than one should expect with your machine. Do you happen to know if your computer does have any L2 cache? It sounds as if it didn't. -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

The highest fps in GPL is 36, it will not go over this whatever your system is. 30fps should be drivable. I get fairly steady 36 at 800*600 in training with all details on with a K6-2 350 and Voodoo 2 12meg. > I have an AMD K-6 200 with a 4 meg voodoo 1. I didn't expect blinding > performance from this system, but even in trainer mode with everything off but > the track, minimum resolution and sounds, I'm averaging around 30 frames at > Watkins Glen. Is this normal? With so much turned off, I guess I expected a > little better. Training is margional at best, racing is impossible.

Hi there, Well, I have a 233MMX, pretty similar. But an 8MB Thriller card really helps it out. Without it, it's impossible, but at the Glen, I got 36 fps until the pit straight, where it would drop to 32 or so in training with full detail. I have it overclocked now via a 75mhz bus, so I get 36 in training almost always. However, I have anti-aliasing off and dynamic skids off... dynamic skids are the biggest CPU hogs. When I first got the Thriller, I thought, WOW those dynamic skids look cool! Some were from sliding sideways, but most were from brake lockups. I'd play for a while and then at certain corners, I'd notice the frame rate taking HUGE dives. Couldn't figure it out... then I realized THOSE areas were ones that were drawing MANY dynamic skid marks. Not good. Ever since then, I've had them off. Hope this helps, Dave > I have an AMD K-6 200 with a 4 meg voodoo 1. I didn't expect blinding > performance from this system, but even in trainer mode with everything off but > the track, minimum resolution and sounds, I'm averaging around 30 frames at > Watkins Glen. Is this normal? With so much turned off, I guess I expected a > little better. Training is margional at best, racing is impossible. -- Dave Schwabe The Aussie Toad -- Grand Prix Legends & Brabham site http://users.wi.net/~schwabe

I would say a Hercules Thriller is your best bet to replace the voodoo1. I have it on a P200 and with 90% graphics on I get 36fps in training and around 25-29fps with 10 AI cars. Although I'm getting a PII-450 voodoo2 system soon :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk ICQ# 11257824 1998 Xoom GP2 League Champion

Good info, Dave! Besides, I've always found it a little unsettling to come flying into a turn where there's a lot of fresh ***, knowing that I was the bonehead that left it there!

Yeah, I don't mind so much if it's from a well-done drift, but those corkscrew-shaped ones are REALLY unsettling... ;-) -_Dave > Good info, Dave! > Besides, I've always found it a little unsettling to come flying into a turn > where there's a lot of fresh ***, knowing that I was the bonehead that > left it there! -- Dave Schwabe The Aussie Toad -- Grand Prix Legends & Brabham site http://users.wi.net/~schwabe

>The highest fps in GPL is 36, it will not go over this whatever your system is. >30fps should be drivable. I get fairly steady 36 at 800*600 in training with all

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>details on with a K6-2 350 and Voodoo 2 12meg. >> I have an AMD K-6 200 with a 4 meg voodoo 1. I didn't expect blinding >> performance from this system, but even in trainer mode with everything

off but >> the track, minimum resolution and sounds, I'm averaging around 30 frames at >> Watkins Glen. Is this normal? With so much turned off, I guess I expected a >> little better. Training is margional at best, racing is impossible. People keep saying this, however I often see the frame rate numbers flicker between 36 and 37... I'm using a Pentium 166, 32MB of RAM and a Voodoo II. I can get around 25fps with EVERTHING switched on, and up to 35/36fps with some features turned off, not that there's all that much of a difference between the two. I'd say that if you have a slow system, like mine, the Voodoo II is your answer... Adam

35 fps last time it worked...maybe faster once it works with these extra 32MB RAM -- Kirk Lane ICQ: 28171652 >>Temporary fix: $32 (minus $30 rebate=$2+shipping) Diamond stealth s220. I >>replaced my voodoo rush on my p200mmx, and now I'm getting an average of 25 >>fps in practice (glen) with detail at medium, all graphics on except driver >>arms, mirrors at minimum, track scenery at medium. Haven't tried a real >>race yet, I've been too busy practicing. > Er, where? Tell me! Please! > -The Enigmatic One

Er, where? Tell me! Please! -The Enigmatic One

>I have an AMD K-6 200 with a 4 meg voodoo 1. I didn't expect blinding >performance from this system, but even in trainer mode with everything off but >the track, minimum resolution and sounds, I'm averaging around 30 frames at >Watkins Glen. Is this normal? With so much turned off, I guess I expected a >little better. Training is margional at best, racing is impossible. It can be fun however. I had a terrible spin at Monza a while ago, with skid marks all over the place, once I had reset the car and done another lap it looked as though their head been an enormous accident, I was then able to look at the ground to try to figure out where I went wrong. Where had I began turning? Where had I began to brake and at which point had I started to lose control. Perhaps this is just a little obsessive, but then, with a game like Grand Prix Legends, I have the right. :-) Adam