2 bit piece of bull crap.

Check out the shameless Nascar Revolution press release at http://www.gamepro.com . In the article they say Dale Jr. uses it to learn the tracks when even Dale Jr. himself has said he uses Nascar 2 to learn tracks.

HAHAHAHAHAH, to LEARN a track. I guess those nascar guys dont know which way the turns go huh. You can only learn a tracks direction and maybe a little bit of speed in a game, your not gonna learn much about an oval from a game except which way it goes and how big the turns are. Which really isnt training. Oh well it just cracks me up here, sorry. Wosco >Check out the shameless Nascar Revolution press release at >http://www.gamepro.com . In the article they say Dale Jr. uses it to >learn the tracks when even Dale Jr. himself has said he uses Nascar 2 to >learn tracks.

What a stupid post. I hope you didn't spend too much of your intellectual time dreaming up those comments. I sure wasted my time reading them since they contributed absolutely nothing. Paul

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> HAHAHAHAHAH, to LEARN a track. I guess those nascar guys dont know which > way the turns go huh. You can only learn a tracks direction and maybe a > little bit of speed in a game, your not gonna learn much about an oval from > a game except which way it goes and how big the turns are. Which really > isnt training. Oh well it just cracks me up here, sorry. > Wosco > >Check out the shameless Nascar Revolution press release at > >http://www.gamepro.com . In the article they say Dale Jr. uses it to > >learn the tracks when even Dale Jr. himself has said he uses Nascar 2 to > >learn tracks.

yes watglen and sears point you can learn the turns. I can see that, but I hate how they make the game sound like some miracle learner. Oh well. >As it turns out DE Jr. was quoted that he used NASCAR2 to learn the turns at

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>Watkins Glen. Said it actually accelerated his learning the course. >>HAHAHAHAHAH, to LEARN a track. I guess those nascar guys dont know which >>way the turns go huh. You can only learn a tracks direction and maybe a >>little bit of speed in a game, your not gonna learn much about an oval

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>>a game except which way it goes and how big the turns are. Which really >>isnt training. Oh well it just cracks me up here, sorry. >>Wosco >>>Check out the shameless Nascar Revolution press release at >>>http://www.gamepro.com . In the article they say Dale Jr. uses it to >>>learn the tracks when even Dale Jr. himself has said he uses Nascar 2 to >>>learn tracks.

uhh ditto hehehe >What a stupid post. I hope you didn't spend too much of your intellectual time

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>dreaming up those comments. I sure wasted my time reading them since they >contributed absolutely nothing. Paul >> HAHAHAHAHAH, to LEARN a track. I guess those nascar guys dont know which >> way the turns go huh. You can only learn a tracks direction and maybe a >> little bit of speed in a game, your not gonna learn much about an oval

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>> a game except which way it goes and how big the turns are. Which really >> isnt training. Oh well it just cracks me up here, sorry. >> Wosco >> >Check out the shameless Nascar Revolution press release at >> >http://www.gamepro.com . In the article they say Dale Jr. uses it to >> >learn the tracks when even Dale Jr. himself has said he uses Nascar 2 to >> >learn tracks.

Sorry to come out so harshly. It did have some points though on my thoughts about the topic. Just everyone here is a roundy nascar arcade fan so i cant win. Sorry for upsetting anyone and invoking rude comments. Wosco >What a stupid post. I hope you didn't spend too much of your intellectual time

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>dreaming up those comments. I sure wasted my time reading them since they >contributed absolutely nothing. Paul >> HAHAHAHAHAH, to LEARN a track. I guess those nascar guys dont know which >> way the turns go huh. You can only learn a tracks direction and maybe a >> little bit of speed in a game, your not gonna learn much about an oval

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>> a game except which way it goes and how big the turns are. Which really >> isnt training. Oh well it just cracks me up here, sorry. >> Wosco >> >Check out the shameless Nascar Revolution press release at >> >http://www.gamepro.com . In the article they say Dale Jr. uses it to >> >learn the tracks when even Dale Jr. himself has said he uses Nascar 2 to >> >learn tracks.

As it turns out DE Jr. was quoted that he used NASCAR2 to learn the turns at Watkins Glen. Said it actually accelerated his learning the course.

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>HAHAHAHAHAH, to LEARN a track. I guess those nascar guys dont know which >way the turns go huh. You can only learn a tracks direction and maybe a >little bit of speed in a game, your not gonna learn much about an oval from >a game except which way it goes and how big the turns are. Which really >isnt training. Oh well it just cracks me up here, sorry. >Wosco >>Check out the shameless Nascar Revolution press release at >>http://www.gamepro.com . In the article they say Dale Jr. uses it to >>learn the tracks when even Dale Jr. himself has said he uses Nascar 2 to >>learn tracks.

>Sorry to come out so harshly. It did have some points though on my thoughts >about the topic. Just everyone here is a roundy nascar arcade fan so i cant >win. Sorry for upsetting anyone and invoking rude comments. >Wosco Which is why most everyone here has and loves Grand Prix Legends. Yep, roundy nascar arcade game that is. And, as I've had to point out time again, every NASCAR track, even the ovals, is a lot different than another. Like, Atlanta, C***te, and Texas, all look 99% the same, but all drive MUCH different. In real life AND N2/NR99. If you don't like NASCAR, leave those of us who do alone, ok? Thanks. -- Ken "If I went 'round claiming I was Emperor because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away" - anonymous peasant Go #43 and #44! volksy (at) geocities (dot) com volksy (at) yahoo (dot) com

i dont mind it, just saying that this nascar revolution doesnt sound like a very hot sim at all. When it takes skill to drive on an oval then I will be there. In real nascar it takes skill to drive the ovals but these arcade games arent worth it. N3 will finally start seperating the men from the boys and not just be another arcade roundy round game. Thats all.

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>>Sorry to come out so harshly. It did have some points though on my >thoughts >>about the topic. Just everyone here is a roundy nascar arcade fan so i >cant >>win. Sorry for upsetting anyone and invoking rude comments. >>Wosco >Which is why most everyone here has and loves Grand Prix Legends. Yep, >roundy nascar arcade game that is. >And, as I've had to point out time again, every NASCAR track, even the >ovals, is a lot different than another. Like, Atlanta, C***te, and >Texas, all look 99% the same, but all drive MUCH different. In real life >AND N2/NR99. >If you don't like NASCAR, leave those of us who do alone, ok? Thanks. >-- >Ken >"If I went 'round claiming I was Emperor because some > moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away" - anonymous >peasant >Go #43 and #44! >volksy (at) geocities (dot) com >volksy (at) yahoo (dot) com

Actually, it is very possible to learn tracks from sims, especially road courses. I guarantee you that you would run better quicker if you played icr2 or gp2 before you hit the actual tracks in a racer. They can teach you not only the racing line, but they can help you get your timing down, and you learn what to expect around the next corner. >As it turns out DE Jr. was quoted that he used NASCAR2 to learn the turns at

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>Watkins Glen. Said it actually accelerated his learning the course. >>HAHAHAHAHAH, to LEARN a track. I guess those nascar guys dont know which >>way the turns go huh. You can only learn a tracks direction and maybe a >>little bit of speed in a game, your not gonna learn much about an oval

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>>a game except which way it goes and how big the turns are. Which really >>isnt training. Oh well it just cracks me up here, sorry. >>Wosco >>>Check out the shameless Nascar Revolution press release at >>>http://www.gamepro.com . In the article they say Dale Jr. uses it to >>>learn the tracks when even Dale Jr. himself has said he uses Nascar 2 to >>>learn tracks.

It is a known fact that Jacques Villenuve used a computer F-1 game (He never said wich one) to get familiar with Spa. When asked how a rookie (1996) could grab the pole on a track he had never seen before, he said "I've been around this course a million times on my computer racing game, and believe it or not it helped immensely!"

> It is a known fact that Jacques Villenuve used a computer F-1 game (He never > said wich one) to get familiar with Spa. When asked how a rookie (1996) > could grab the pole on a track he had never seen before, he said "I've been > around this course a million times on my computer racing game, and believe > it or not it helped immensely!" If true then I think this is an immense compliment being paid towards the makers of driving sims. Heck the Air Force puts it pilots thru tons of hours of sim practice so why not racing jocks? I know I would... John DiFool

I don't remembre any articles saying that he did use GP2. I do remember that there was quite a bit of rampant logic going around at the time that said something like this: 1. He used a game to learn Spa. 2. GP2 was the ONLY sim to have Spa. 3. Ergo, he used GP2. He also called it stupid (called it a video game) and said the race wasn't realistic, (to P. Windsor in Off-Track Buzzzzz - ESPN2) but it doesn't change the fact that he used it to learn the tracks before getting there. Just like Barrichello did to learn Suzuka the same year. Mikey >On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:13:15 -0500, >>It is a known fact that Jacques Villenuve used a computer F-1 game (He never >>said wich one) to get familiar with Spa. >He said he used GP2..... >-- >// rrevved posts from mindspring dot com

Johnathon Green, not Peter Windsor. Sorry, it was late. Mikey

> If true then I think this is an immense compliment being paid towards the > makers of driving sims. Heck the Air Force puts it pilots thru tons of hours > of sim practice so why not racing jocks? I know I would... There are some WarBirds virtual fighter pilots that fly fighters in real life, and while they still enjoy the simulation, I've seen some posts on some aspects of sims that they feel are counter to maintaining their real life "instincts". And so during their online sim time (and in government simulators), they consciously do things differently than they would otherwise if their only concern was success at the simulation. Presumably it would be much the same for racing drivers. Certain aspects might be judged as "bad training". -- Matthew V. Jessick Motorsims Vehicle Dynamics Engineer (972)910-8866, Fax: (972)910-8216