We have a new NASCAR KING!!

NASCAR REVOLUTION is the new king of Nascar. Sure, I'm gonna get flamed by all the Nascar 1-2-3 worshippers, but this game is THE Nascar simulation! To judge this game by the demo is to judge Nascar 3 by it's demo! IT IS NOTHING LIKE the port to N64 and the Playstation. NR is EXTREMELY deep! Has all the options Nascar 1-2 have and then some... even pit crew errors! Excellent AI!! They race three and four wide at Dega! They draft, they bump and they cut you off... Mechanical failure... Physics model is dead-on with Grand Prix Legends!!!!!!!! Ex. I was getting blown away at Dega and couldn't keep up with the 42nd car (yes 43 cars on the track)! Maid a few adjustments and I was finally keeping up with the "lap cars." Low and behold a wreck happens right in front of me. Looked like Mike Skinner cut in front of Kenny Irwin knocking him into a few cars exiting the pit... I check the replay and I see Irwin and Skinner had been bump'n and grind'n through a few turns. I guess the AI holds a grudge! Graphics and sound are beyond description! 1024x768 V2 SLI SB Live, PII 400!! The game runs all 43 cars at over 30 fps! Reflections and dynamic lighting... The cars show damage! The damage affects the aerodynamics which affect your speed which forces you to make a pit stop to be entertained by a motion captured pit crew!! AWESOME! There are a few flaws. When you start a race, you do not get a warm up lap... you start from a 3rd person view going into to turn four! For the life of me I can not figure out how to change gears! Yellows flags need work. No way to keep Spotters voice but disable the announcers. STEEP LEARNING CURVE!!!! The games engine is VERY similar to Grand Prix Legends!! (and now the flames from the N1 and N2 fans who don't want this game to be good)

Then why don't you go BUY IT, John, Then you will know !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????? C Wellll what a misconception. We like sims, not arcade racers. We're not changing allegiances to EA if we pick this game up, because Papyrus is the king. Is this game a sim as in the DRIVING model???? that is ALL I want to know. Jon -- go24 on TEN E2k Websites - chevyfan.hypermart.net NROS2Day - nros2day.hypermart.net JEG Racing - home.earthlink.net/~chevyfan/jeg

This is rec.autos.simulators, and it's a newsgroup. A newsgroup is a place to discuss about news and inform about them. I don't see a problem with Jon's question, but he still hasn't learned to quote ;-) With the current *** industry, kudos to any customer who gets informed before buying a title. Too often the opposite will happen. By elevating the knowledge of the gamers, the software developers will need to push them further and just "patching" and everybody is a winner out of the situation. -= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -= May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

I'm not using any stinking quoting Frank :) And to Mr. Chipper, if that's your real name, why would I buy something that I can't return if I don't know if the driving model is real or not? And I have already had this question answered: no. Jon -- go24 on TEN E2k Websites - chevyfan.hypermart.net NROS2Day - nros2day.hypermart.net JEG Racing - home.earthlink.net/~chevyfan/jeg

If you purchase any software for Electronics Boutique, you have 10 day to evaluate it. Within that period you can return it for any reason. Even if the reason is you just think it sucks. And to top it off, you can and will be refunded in the same manner in which you've paid. I know because I done it quite a few times. I'm not using any stinking quoting Frank :) And to Mr. Chipper, if that's your real name, why would I buy something that I can't return if I don't know if the driving model is real or not? And I have already had this question answered: no. Jon

How much did EA pay you to say this? This game is a dog. Peace!

> How much did EA pay you to say this? This game is a dog. > Peace! I just read in a review, that you don't even have control of the car during the start of the race... amazing! l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

% > % > How much did EA pay you to say this? This game is a dog. % > % > Peace! % > % I just read in a review, that you don't even have control of % the car during the start of the race... amazing! Hmmmmm.... I don't know, maybe this is something Papyrus should look into! I think the online starts with GPL would be greatly enhanced by this. Maybe it will be in the second patch. You know, one can always learn something from the compeitition. [ouch! damn it! a bet ma tong... gotta remember to remove from cheek next time] -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Michael E. Carver wrote Blasphemy Michael ;-) The start of a race is a rush of adrenaline that shouldn't be modified at all. Even in N2 on the NROS, when your about to start a long 75% Martinsville, with 23 other humans, the tension is there, and your heart starts to beat up. GPL is incredible with the tension of cars revving their motors and waiting for the flag to drop. It's a technique that is very important in a race, as starting well can get you a couple of position that you could really need for the first few laps of the race. To change it to a "Daytona USA" style where you enter in the action already is just taking of a big aspect of online (and even offline) virtual racing. -= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -= May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Yeh you cant control the rolling start, the pit, the wreck spinout or even the abort sequence. Guess EA thought we humans not capable of this feat... PassedYa

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>% > >% > How much did EA pay you to say this? This game is a dog. >% > >% > Peace! >% > >% I just read in a review, that you don't even have control of >% the car during the start of the race... amazing! >Hmmmmm.... I don't know, maybe this is something Papyrus should look >into! I think the online starts with GPL would be greatly enhanced by >this. Maybe it will be in the second patch. You know, one can always >learn something from the compeitition. >[ouch! damn it! a bet ma tong... gotta remember to remove from cheek >next time] >-- >**************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* > Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

> Yeh you cant control the rolling start, the pit, the wreck spinout or even > the abort sequence. Guess EA thought we humans not capable of this feat... I'd rather say it's their AI drivers who couldn't handle it. Even Papy's AI has quite some problems with special situations... ;^) l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

ROTFLOL!!! -Larry > There are a few flaws.

Oh, I see. This was a troll.... -Larry > STEEP LEARNING CURVE!!!! The games engine is VERY similar to Grand Prix > Legends!!

I dunno. Maybe mandatory computer control for the first 2 laps of a race at Dega would be a good thing... :) -Larry > The start of a race is a rush of adrenaline that shouldn't be modified at > all. Even in N2 on the NROS, when your about to start a long 75% > Martinsville, with 23 other humans, the tension is there, and your heart > starts to beat up.

So did England back around 1776 <g..

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>ROTFLOL!!! >-Larry >> There are a few flaws.

-- Ron Riekens II ICQ# 1780898 Ding: whodp://ding.activerse.com/RonRII 1998 NASS for N1 BGN Series Champion. 1998 NASS for N1 BGN Team Co-Champion. w/Glenn Brown Co-Owner/Driver: Pacific Rim Racing/Wendys Restaurants NASS'99 Protruck Series #97 Chevy C10 Oregon Division Site: http://www.pacifier.com/~ronrii/prr/index.html

No no no, The correct line is: I dunno, think we might have a little brain fade here <G..

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>I dunno. >Maybe mandatory computer control for the first 2 laps of a race at Dega >would be a good thing... >:) >-Larry >> The start of a race is a rush of adrenaline that shouldn't be modified at >> all. Even in N2 on the NROS, when your about to start a long 75% >> Martinsville, with 23 other humans, the tension is there, and your heart >> starts to beat up.

-- Ron Riekens II ICQ# 1780898 Ding: whodp://ding.activerse.com/RonRII 1998 NASS for N1 BGN Series Champion. 1998 NASS for N1 BGN Team Co-Champion. w/Glenn Brown Co-Owner/Driver: Pacific Rim Racing/Wendys Restaurants NASS'99 Protruck Series #97 Chevy C10 Oregon Division Site: http://www.pacifier.com/~ronrii/prr/index.html

Yeah, but it can still be funny <g..

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>Oh, I see. This was a troll.... >-Larry >> STEEP LEARNING CURVE!!!! The games engine is VERY similar to Grand Prix >> Legends!!

-- Ron Riekens II ICQ# 1780898 Ding: whodp://ding.activerse.com/RonRII 1998 NASS for N1 BGN Series Champion. 1998 NASS for N1 BGN Team Co-Champion. w/Glenn Brown Co-Owner/Driver: Pacific Rim Racing/Wendys Restaurants NASS'99 Protruck Series #97 Chevy C10 Oregon Division Site: http://www.pacifier.com/~ronrii/prr/index.html