EA Sports Racing Games and my thaughts

Lets start with the crap. I'm talking NASCAR Revoloution. I have just proudly uninstalled NASCAR Revolution Demo from my computer. If the game plays better than the demo I have to say to EA "If its in the game, why ain't it in the demo?". Only 1 true good area on NASCAR Revoloution, the graphics. There are minor glitches in graphics but otherwise they look great. The minor flaws in graphics, crash damage looks awful, cars look too rounded at the bottom, and a few other minor things. But, then there is the controlls. In opinion very arcade like. No front tire squeeling due to turning to much and the car can't handle it, able to turn at high speeds after starting a corner. Car turns rather well, not that it is rather real, on flat areas. Easily able to cream the road courses' record times probably. Anouncers are annoying (luckly in full game you should beable to turn them off). Car gets 90% to fliping over, with plenty of momentum left and than flips back on to wheels, little dammage done. and when the car does roll it always lands on its wheels and thers absoulty no damage on the roof, not even a scratch. EA, step away from NASCAR and get back to what your good at (Hockey, Baseball, Golf, Football(of all sorts), Soccer, ect.). Final verdict: "Yo, EA, Looks ain't everything a game needs." What I'm very impressed with tho is SBK. What a sweet game. This is the true competitor to Castrol-Honda and it has already beaten it in my mind, 1 month before release. But watch out, Makers of CHSBK (Castrol Honda SuperBike Champions) are back with SBK2, which supposedly have full right to the SBK name, tracks, drivers, bikes and more. And possiably based on the '99 season. Any way back to EA's SBK. Some people say that they wouldn't get this game due to it's demo in arcade mode. I think this is just a sign of whats coming. They will add in all the little things like loosing the bike easier and more realisticly. Just wait for the full and get it, even if you get it warez sytle, its only in arcade mode right now, but I assure you Ill pay the cash. Love the turning, very realistic to my mind (and it is only arcade mode right now). Graphics look astounding. Perfect job with the shadows. Menu Screen setup is great, (forgot to say but I dont like NASCAR Revolution's Menus, sounds are crap, looks ugly, ect.) easy to move through and looks nice. Love the little things, shaking your*** at drivers who hit you, and you (the player) doesn't have to do any thing for that to happen. Nice crashes. All I have to say is good things about this game. If i had to complain about this thing is that the gravel traps are very unrealistic to ride through. Just work on that bit and all would be great and maybe a few other minor things, like add announcers (for people who like that thing), make sure season runs properly (2 25-lap races per round. both worth points.). Also sweet intro video placed with the demo, hope that's used with the full game(maybe even a bit longer). Final verdict: "Look for me in stores the first day this hits the shelves." Thats all I've gotta say. I could care less about what you think of SBK cause I know its the bomb, but If youve got any comments you wish to DjFIL [link lost in import] PS: Sorry about crappy spelling.

You say that SBK is in arcade mode in the demo, if you read the Nascar Revolution readme file you would find that it also is in arcade mode. Granted it has a few glitches but what game doesn't these days. Vintook

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>Lets start with the crap. I'm talking NASCAR Revoloution. I have just >proudly uninstalled NASCAR Revolution Demo from my computer. If the >game plays better than the demo I have to say to EA "If its in the game, >why ain't it in the demo?". Only 1 true good area on NASCAR >Revoloution, the graphics. There are minor glitches in graphics but >otherwise they look great. The minor flaws in graphics, crash damage >looks awful, cars look too rounded at the bottom, and a few other minor >things. But, then there is the controlls. In opinion very arcade >like. No front tire squeeling due to turning to much and the car can't >handle it, able to turn at high speeds after starting a corner. Car >turns rather well, not that it is rather real, on flat areas. Easily >able to cream the road courses' record times probably. Anouncers are >annoying (luckly in full game you should beable to turn them off). Car >gets 90% to fliping over, with plenty of momentum left and than flips >back on to wheels, little dammage done. and when the car does roll it >always lands on its wheels and thers absoulty no damage on the roof, not >even a scratch. EA, step away from NASCAR and get back to what your >good at (Hockey, Baseball, Golf, Football(of all sorts), Soccer, ect.). >Final verdict: "Yo, EA, Looks ain't everything a game needs." >What I'm very impressed with tho is SBK. What a sweet game. This is >the true competitor to Castrol-Honda and it has already beaten it in my >mind, 1 month before release. But watch out, Makers of CHSBK (Castrol >Honda SuperBike Champions) are back with SBK2, which supposedly have >full right to the SBK name, tracks, drivers, bikes and more. And >possiably based on the '99 season. Any way back to EA's SBK. Some >people say that they wouldn't get this game due to it's demo in arcade >mode. I think this is just a sign of whats coming. They will add in >all the little things like loosing the bike easier and more >realisticly. Just wait for the full and get it, even if you get it >warez sytle, its only in arcade mode right now, but I assure you Ill pay >the cash. Love the turning, very realistic to my mind (and it is only >arcade mode right now). Graphics look astounding. Perfect job with the >shadows. Menu Screen setup is great, (forgot to say but I dont like >NASCAR Revolution's Menus, sounds are crap, looks ugly, ect.) easy to >move through and looks nice. Love the little things, shaking your*** >at drivers who hit you, and you (the player) >doesn't have to do any thing for that to happen. Nice crashes. All I >have to say is good things about this game. If i had to complain about >this thing is that the gravel traps are very unrealistic to ride >through. Just work on that bit and all would be great and maybe a few >other minor things, like add announcers (for people who like that >thing), make sure season runs properly (2 25-lap races per round. both >worth points.). Also sweet intro video placed with the demo, hope >that's used with the full game(maybe even a bit longer). Final >verdict: "Look for me in stores the first day this hits the shelves." >Thats all I've gotta say. I could care less about what you think of SBK >cause I know its the bomb, but If youve got any comments you wish to > DjFIL > [link lost in import] >PS: Sorry about crappy spelling.

Because the DEMO came out long before the game was even finished. This is all a typical reply from a simulation fanatic. I enjoy the announcers, the car does totally flip on its top, and does *not* always land on its wheels. I know because I saw it happen several times. Also, if you had checked the game a little more thorough, you would see that in the options menu, there are settings for Damage, Yellow/Black flags, Equipment Breakdowns, Physics/AI settings... although they are all disabled in this demo. They probably have added other things since then. >Thats all I've gotta say. I could care less about what you think of SBK >cause I know its the bomb, but If youve got any comments you wish to I can say the same thing to you about Nascar Revolution.

>even a scratch. EA, step away from NASCAR and get back to what your >good at (Hockey, Baseball, Golf, Football(of all sorts), Soccer, ect.). Hey, don't get me started. EA SUCKS at sports games, IMHO. Soccer and NCAA football are the only ones that aren't total crap. Just thinking about their hockey game makes me wanna puke. Agreed, but I want to see how good the sim mode is. The original Castrol kind of sucked though. Poor graphics, mediocre control, and some really silly unrealistic things (like the grass covered with glue for example). Maybe they'll fix all that stuff, but we'll have to wait and see. I agree it looks very promising at this point. If they do an even half-decent job of the sim mode (and the AI) it will be awesome. Joe

>>even a scratch. EA, step away from NASCAR and get back to what your >>good at (Hockey, Baseball, Golf, Football(of all sorts), Soccer, ect.). >Hey, don't get me started. EA SUCKS at sports games, IMHO. Soccer and >NCAA football are the only ones that aren't total crap. Just thinking >about their hockey game makes me wanna puke. You have got to be kidding right? You actually think NHL99 sucks? I swear, some people in this newsgroup have severe mental problems. Seriously, this will be the last time I read this newsgroup. Unbelieveable!

The Rodster wrote Your talking about eye-candy or realism here ? Because Im sorry but this is not how a real hockey game is played in NHL99. It is from the circle of hockey knowers as one of the most disappointed hockey games ever. And I really hope a hockey game will never be played the way the AI and the game engine does it or I'll puke and never put my skates again. They can't even model the puck physics correctly btw ;-) Sorry for the off-topic post. -= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -= May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

The Rodster wrote !! Of course remember this is : rec.autos.simulators And as with it's charter we discuss of virtual reality racing software that tried to recreate real-life racing situations, not arcade and unrealistic situations. If you feel this is not the place you want to discuss there is always comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.* newsgroup hierarchy. -= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -= May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

I know NHL99 is the best in the series. Especially in 3Dfx.

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>>>even a scratch. EA, step away from NASCAR and get back to what your >>>good at (Hockey, Baseball, Golf, Football(of all sorts), Soccer, ect.). >>Hey, don't get me started. EA SUCKS at sports games, IMHO. Soccer and >>NCAA football are the only ones that aren't total crap. Just thinking >>about their hockey game makes me wanna puke. >You have got to be kidding right? You actually think NHL99 sucks? I

swear, >some people in this newsgroup have severe mental problems. Seriously, this >will be the last time I read this newsgroup. Unbelieveable!

I'm talking about FUN. Isn't that what games are supposed to be about? I don't care or give a shit about nit picking realism vs. arcade. I'll leave that for the ones who have a little too much time on their hands. I'm out !!

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>The Rodster wrote >>I know NHL99 is the best in the series. Especially in 3Dfx. >Your talking about eye-candy or realism here ? >Because Im sorry but this is not how a real hockey game is played in NHL99. >It is from the circle of hockey knowers as one of the most disappointed >hockey games ever. And I really hope a hockey game will never be played

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>way the AI and the game engine does it or I'll puke and never put my skates >again. >They can't even model the puck physics correctly btw ;-) >Sorry for the off-topic post. >-= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> >-= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ >-= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ >-= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. >-= May the Downforce be with you... >"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise >how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

>You have got to be kidding right? You actually think NHL99 sucks? Horribly. But you must understand I am Canadian (I know hockey) and am also a fan of hockey SIMULATIONS. NHL 99, like all EA hockey games that preceded it, is an arcade game that bears little similarity to the actual game of hockey. Terrible physics, control, AI, realism - everything that makes a SIM good, EA hockey games don't have. Joe

>I'm talking about FUN. Let me put it this way. Try posting a message in this forum that Need for Speed 3 is the greatest driving simulation of all time. See how far you get. Joe

>I know NHL99 is the best in the series. Damning with faint praise. EA has never made a half-decent hockey game. Joe

NFSlll is the greatest driving simulation of all time.

>NFSlll is the greatest driving simulation of all time. It doesn't count unless you mean it. ;-) Joe

Oh, my. Everyone Duck! (the fish, of course). :) -Larry > NFSlll is the greatest driving simulation of all time.