Diamond MM Does It Again!

It took me 20 weeks, phone calls and several emails to recieve my Monster 2 rebate, but I did finally receive it. So what do I do, buy another Diamond product.... Picked up a Monster Fusion for my second computer. I decided to go Diamond for two reasons, of the Banshee boards, theirs is rated slightly faster, and the second was the software bundle. I downloaded the MotoCross Madness demo and liked it. The Monster Fusion box says that the full version is included inside the box. Open the box and there is no MotoCross Madness, only a postcard that requires I mail it in BEFORE January 1, 1999 to receive the game. Will I never learn! Nowhere on the box does it indicate that Motocross madness in a mail-in offer with an expiration date. This is the last straw - no more Diamond products ever! Very Unhappy customer.

I bought the Diamond Fusion as well. Both the Unreal and Motocross Madness were in the box. They probably ship the cards as soon as they have them even if the dont have the software bundle complete and just put in a coupon. Crapy way to do it but look at software publishers thier shipping games that are so buggy you can't hardly play them. I guess my Fusion just shipped later after they got there shipments. As for the rebate, well I wont hold my breath. Jim On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:55:51 -1000, "Dog_heaven"

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>It took me 20 weeks, phone calls and several emails to recieve my Monster 2 >rebate, but I did finally receive it. So what do I do, buy another Diamond >product.... >Picked up a Monster Fusion for my second computer. I decided to go Diamond >for two reasons, of the Banshee boards, theirs is rated slightly faster, and >the second was the software bundle. I downloaded the MotoCross Madness demo >and liked it. The Monster Fusion box says that the full version is included >inside the box. >Open the box and there is no MotoCross Madness, only a postcard that >requires I mail it in BEFORE January 1, 1999 to receive the game. Will I >never learn! Nowhere on the box does it indicate that Motocross madness in a >mail-in offer with an expiration date. >This is the last straw - no more Diamond products ever! >Very Unhappy customer.

Hmm, the Monster Fusion I bought about 2-3 weeks ago had MotoCross Madness in it. As for rebates Diamond is notoriously slow getting those proccessed. It took nearly 6 months to get my rebate for the Stealth S220 I bought. The Diamond is only slightly faster than the others because Diamond overclocks the board slightly, so you could of done the same thing with any of them. Dan --

I can totally relate. I bought the Diamond Monster 3D II in august of '98 and it, too, indicated that the following were FREE INSIDE! Full versions of: - Incoming - Battle Zone - Monster Truck Madness 2 Bad enough having to send in a rebate coupon to get my $50 bucks US as advertised on Diamonds site. However the coupon I got from my retailer indicated that said I'd get only $40 -- Canadian! That's like $26 US! Lucky I had checked diamonds site. Needless to say I opted to send my rebate claim to the US address. I guess the cheque is in the mail... Now back to the topic. Although the Incoming and Battle Zone CD's were inside, I found that I had to mail a coupon to get the Monster Truck Madness 2! . Funny thing is I was looking forward to the driving game more so than the spacy games. I guess when Diamond says FREE INSIDE they are referring to coupons not software. What are they selling -- computer hardware or breakfast cereal. Like you, I don't have time for their shit nor the notion of sending in rebate claims or coupons for software. Due to a busy schedule, and to add insult to injury, I missed the mail in date for MTM2! I paid a hefty premium to buy the Monster board here in Canada and generally my read is that they *may* have offered only a slight improvement over other 3dfx competitors products at the time I bought mine -- most likely drivers. I think Diamond owes us all an explanation. Steve >It took me 20 weeks, phone calls and several emails to recieve my Monster 2 >rebate, but I did finally receive it. So what do I do, buy another Diamond >product.... >Picked up a Monster Fusion for my second computer. I decided to go Diamond >for two reasons, of the Banshee boards, theirs is rated slightly faster, and

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>the second was the software bundle. I downloaded the MotoCross Madness demo >and liked it. The Monster Fusion box says that the full version is included >inside the box. >Open the box and there is no MotoCross Madness, only a postcard that >requires I mail it in BEFORE January 1, 1999 to receive the game. Will I >never learn! Nowhere on the box does it indicate that Motocross madness in

a >mail-in offer with an expiration date. >This is the last straw - no more Diamond products ever! >Very Unhappy customer.

You should move to Australia. We just assume the rebates etc do not apply to us (they never do) and go by the sticker price. Very simple. Ben >It took me 20 weeks, phone calls and several emails to recieve my Monster 2 >rebate, but I did finally receive it. So what do I do, buy another Diamond >product.... >Picked up a Monster Fusion for my second computer. I decided to go Diamond >for two reasons, of the Banshee boards, theirs is rated slightly faster, and

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>the second was the software bundle. I downloaded the MotoCross Madness demo >and liked it. The Monster Fusion box says that the full version is included >inside the box. >Open the box and there is no MotoCross Madness, only a postcard that >requires I mail it in BEFORE January 1, 1999 to receive the game. Will I >never learn! Nowhere on the box does it indicate that Motocross madness in

a >mail-in offer with an expiration date. >This is the last straw - no more Diamond products ever! >Very Unhappy customer.

On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:55:51 -1000, "Dog_heaven"

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>It took me 20 weeks, phone calls and several emails to recieve my Monster 2 >rebate, but I did finally receive it. So what do I do, buy another Diamond >product.... >Picked up a Monster Fusion for my second computer. I decided to go Diamond >for two reasons, of the Banshee boards, theirs is rated slightly faster, and >the second was the software bundle. I downloaded the MotoCross Madness demo >and liked it. The Monster Fusion box says that the full version is included >inside the box.

Take it back to the retailer and show them the sticker/label which says it should be in the box, and ask for a refund of your money. Then go and buy a Banshee from another manufacturer. I doubt you will notice any speed difference between brands unless you sit there with a benchmarking program, and that goes for most cards these days anyway. -- Nathan Wong http://www.nectar.com.au/~alfacors - Super Touring - Alfa Romeo - - V8Supercars - CART -

While I sympathize with everyyone who feels they got ripped off, I have to wonder why people are basing their HARDWARE BUYING DECISION on pack-in titles. Pack-in titles are almost NEVER FULL RELEASE (even when they say they are) and only inflate the price of the hardware product you are buying. This is why I almost ALWAYS buy the OEM version of any hardware product. Sure, these are harder to find and you will probably have to get mail order or through a web-store but you will always save money and you won't be disappointed with missing or demo versions of games. I really liked the cereal analogy in the previous posts. It seems that everyone is buying the cereal to get the prize inside then throwing away the food. Remember WHAT you are buying and WHY and forget all the bogus software. It's just like all those stupid commercials... "And if you act now - we'll throw in the extra set of steak knives ABSOLUTELY FREE"

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>Hmm, the Monster Fusion I bought about 2-3 weeks ago had MotoCross Madness >in it. >As for rebates Diamond is notoriously slow getting those proccessed. It >took nearly 6 months to get my rebate for the Stealth S220 I bought. >The Diamond is only slightly faster than the others because Diamond >overclocks the board slightly, so you could of done the same thing with any >of them. >Dan -- >>It took me 20 weeks, phone calls and several emails to recieve my Monster 2 >>Picked up a Monster Fusion for my second computer. I decided to go Diamond >>for two reasons, of the Banshee boards, theirs is rated slightly faster, >and >>and liked it. The Monster Fusion box says that the full version is included >>Open the box and there is no MotoCross Madness, only a postcard that >>requires I mail it in BEFORE January 1, 1999 to receive the game. Will I >>never learn! Nowhere on the box does it indicate that Motocross madness in >a >>mail-in offer with an expiration date. >>This is the last straw - no more Diamond products ever! >>Very Unhappy customer.

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>While I sympathize with everyyone who feels they got ripped off, I have to >wonder why people are basing their HARDWARE BUYING DECISION on pack-in titles. >Pack-in titles are almost NEVER FULL RELEASE (even when they say they are) and >only inflate the price of the hardware product you are buying. This is why I >almost ALWAYS buy the OEM version of any hardware product. Sure, these are >harder to find and you will probably have to get mail order or through a >web-store but you will always save money and you won't be disappointed with >missing or demo versions of games. >I really liked the cereal analogy in the previous posts. It seems that everyone >is buying the cereal to get the prize inside then throwing away the food. >Remember WHAT you are buying and WHY and forget all the bogus software. It's >just like all those stupid commercials... >"And if you act now - we'll throw in the extra set of steak knives ABSOLUTELY >FREE" >>Hmm, the Monster Fusion I bought about 2-3 weeks ago had MotoCross Madness >>in it. >>As for rebates Diamond is notoriously slow getting those proccessed. It >>took nearly 6 months to get my rebate for the Stealth S220 I bought. >>The Diamond is only slightly faster than the others because Diamond >>overclocks the board slightly, so you could of done the same thing with any >>of them. >>Dan -- >>>It took me 20 weeks, phone calls and several emails to recieve my Monster 2 >>>Picked up a Monster Fusion for my second computer. I decided to go Diamond >>>for two reasons, of the Banshee boards, theirs is rated slightly faster, >>and >>>and liked it. The Monster Fusion box says that the full version is included >>>Open the box and there is no MotoCross Madness, only a postcard that >>>requires I mail it in BEFORE January 1, 1999 to receive the game. Will I >>>never learn! Nowhere on the box does it indicate that Motocross madness in >>a >>>mail-in offer with an expiration date. >>>This is the last straw - no more Diamond products ever! >>>Very Unhappy customer.

I, like you, don't just purchase the product for the "Goodies." I want the hardware and I want it to work without problems, as it has so far. Unlike buying New Software, so buggy you need RAID just to install it, most hardware mfgs. lure more of the kids by offering these "software bundles" along with there product with the marketing hopes of selling many more that way. I have built my last three computers and Most, if not all came without any bundled software. The one time I did buy one for the software(for my younger son...14 years old) bundle I also got ripped, but it's like they say ....you get what you pay for........All they included were certificates that were out dated..... Happy with just the hardware... :-) Frank Jr Nascar Racing fan and Sim Driver Best Mobile DJ / Emcee in South Florida Visit our site at: <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/4199/dguys.htm"></A> My Nascar/Nascar2 site is located at: <A HREF="http://www.geocities .com/motorcity/1734"></A>

Hi Steve,

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> I can totally relate. I bought the Diamond Monster 3D II in august of '98 > and it, too, indicated that the following were FREE INSIDE! > Full versions of: > - Incoming > - Battle Zone

BattleZone is cool. They say it was the sleeper of 1999. I agree. Just finishing up the single player missions to prepare for some online strategy games. Still haven't sent mine in. Procrastination :) Umm.. My Monster3D came with CD's for all the games. You just needed to send in a coupon to upgrade the Incoming game to 'full'. That wasn't a problem because my Matrox Mystique G200 came with the 'full' version of Incoming. I guess they substitute cards for the CD's when they are out of stock. I never expect to mail in the rebate. If I get to it well that would be great! $50 USD ~= $75 CAD? -------- Jason Monds "My other car is a Ferrari" http://members.home.net/gpl.mondsj/gpl - For my combined gas/brake setups (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)