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Question for Logitech FF owners

6 posts by 5 people · 12 Feb 1999 - 24 Feb 1999

John Bradl 12 Feb 1999#449795
I'm *this* close to purchasing one of these beasties. Checked one out at a Best Buy, and loved the feel. By comparison, the MS wheel felt a little too small/cluttered, and the Logitech has fairly nice shifter paddles. Anyway - while I prefer the fact that the MS wheel uses an optical encoder, I'm not at all crazy about their price, nor about the non-USB nature of the beast. So I'm opting out of my previous "I'm not buying a wheel with a pot!" stance. Particularly since the Logitech is so inexpensive ($114 at buycomp.com), I can think of it as sort of a stopgap measure until the *right* wheel is finally built. (The right wheel would be as solid as a TSW, but with force feedback, a USB connection, and an optical encoder.) But I digress - my question: have any of you opened up your Logitech wheel? How is the pot attached? Could I (eventually) replace the pot with a high quality $15 milspec-type pot? Is the pot connected to the shaft via a *** tube? I ask, because I'm a little bummed that I *can't* replace the pot in my T2 with anything really good, because it requires a knurled plastic shaft. All the good pots have smooth stainess steel shafts, and I can't see any reasonable way to retrofit one of those into the T2. Thanks, --John Bradley
SteveBla 13 Feb 1999#449929
Mine's not an FF, but I have had it down to bits. The pot shaft has a half-round end that fits into a plastic collar, which in turn mates to the metal steerer shaft. It's attached with a simple tab and stabilized with several dabs of silicone. The fit of the pot shaft end-tab in the collar wasn't so great on mine, causing a bit of imprecision, but a spot of epoxy putty cleared that up. You could upgrade the pot with a little creativity, I suspect. One thing to consider is that the Logitech has an A/D converter that eliminates a lot of the noise you usually get with pots. You may have noticed posts from users mentioning their jittery arm problem vanished when they got a Logitech wheel. That's why. One thing they DO need is more than 190+/- degrees of rotation. I modified mine easily for about 270, and the FF uses the same stops, but I can't say about the rest of the FF mechanism. If you do get one, be sure to download the latest software(ver. 3.12.197) from http://www.wingmanteam.com, and keep an eye out for the next version, which is coming soon. Steve B. remove "edy" from address for email
> I'm *this* close to purchasing one of these beasties. Checked one out at > a Best Buy, and loved the feel. By comparison, the MS wheel felt a > little too small/cluttered, and the Logitech has fairly nice shifter > paddles. You don't mention the pedals. One look at the Logitech pedals made me switch to the MS wheel... l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!
John Bradl 13 Feb 1999#449931
Quoted text (7 lines)> > I'm *this* close to purchasing one of these beasties. Checked one out at > > a Best Buy, and loved the feel. By comparison, the MS wheel felt a > > little too small/cluttered, and the Logitech has fairly nice shifter > > paddles. > You don't mention the pedals. One look at the Logitech pedals made me > switch to the MS wheel...
Depending on how hateful they are (after the mandatory spring upgrade!) I'm likely to retrofit the Logitech pedal electronics into my T2 pedal hardware. At least, that's the plan... --John Bradley
Greg Cisko 13 Feb 1999#449932
>Depending on how hateful they are (after the mandatory spring upgrade!) >I'm likely to retrofit the Logitech pedal electronics into my T2 pedal >hardware. At least, that's the plan... That should prove very interesting. Keep us posted. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com
Larry 24 Feb 1999#452327
The MS pedals are very, very nice... -Larry > You don't mention the pedals. One look at the Logitech pedals made me > switch to the MS wheel...

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