Ms FF Wheel & Nascar2

The problem is with nascar racing 2 I have a Microsoft ff wheel and am having trouble calibrating the wheel in the game. when i hit joystick calibration the window for the calibration sequence appears then disappears without giving me a chance to run the calibration routine i have been in contact with sierra and they tried to help but none of their suggestions worked they consisted of ideas like turn off the forces in the activator and to disable the sidewinder activator altogether i have the most up to date software, I know that Nascar2 does not support force feedback but i still should be able to use it in this game i have indyca2 and it works fine i also run gpl with no problem any ideas? Thanks Robocat

I have heard rumors of it working for a few people, but the over all concensus is that most FF wheels wont work AT ALL with Dos games. Again, that is just what Ive heard. There are some lucky folks Ive "heard" of that claim to have it work, but most of what I heard is NO DICE for N2. Wish ya luck with it.

How did you make that work? From my understanding, the MS FF wheel does not work at all with dos games because it is a digital controller. Apparently, it either works or doesn't work with any particular system. Not much a guy can do to correct it. -/-Walk Walker

>The problem is with nascar racing 2 >I have a Microsoft ff wheel and am having trouble calibrating the wheel in >the game. >when i hit joystick calibration the window for the calibration sequence >appears then disappears That's why I returned mine; there's NO way I'm going without Nascar Racing. 'Course, right after I returned it, NR99 came out and it's Win95 native... "Gunner" ORSA Bronze #78 Navy Dodge truck

On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:29:17 -0600, "John Tomlinson" >I have heard rumors of it working for a few people, but the over all >concensus is that most FF wheels wont work AT ALL with Dos games. They DO work well with DOS games, but N2 is an exception (AFAIK it uses some sort of optimized routines to read the joystick port). GP2 or Rally Racing 97 e.g. work fine with my Saitek R4 FF (in a DOS box under windows). Daniel -- Daniel Lichtenberger, Vienna/Austria

The MSFFW, and most if not all other Digital Wheels, are not compatible with N2. N2 will not work with any digital device. Sorry :( -Larry

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> The problem is with nascar racing 2 > I have a Microsoft ff wheel and am having trouble calibrating the wheel in > the game. > when i hit joystick calibration the window for the calibration sequence > appears then disappears > without giving me a chance to run the calibration routine > i have been in contact with sierra and they tried to help but none of their > suggestions worked > they consisted of ideas like turn off the forces in the activator and to > disable the > sidewinder activator altogether > i have the most up to date software, I know that Nascar2 does not support > force feedback but i still should be able to use it in this game > i have indyca2 and it works fine i also run gpl with no problem > any ideas? > Thanks > Robocat

From what I understand, the joystick driver with N2 is highly optimized/modified/whatever to prevent problems with latency during on-line racing on TEN. Since TEN hosts the fully Nascar Santioned NROS, I guess they were trying to deal with latency in the best way possible. It's unfortunate the 'broke' it as far as digital devices go in the process.... It's a shame, because the best use I could get out of my MSFFW (dropping the FF part, of course) is on NROS! -Larry > They DO work well with DOS games, but N2 is an exception (AFAIK it > uses some sort of optimized routines to read the joystick port). > GP2 or Rally Racing 97 e.g. work fine with my Saitek R4 FF (in a DOS > box under windows).

Indy Car II has a Windows 95 EXE as well as a DOS exe. He is running the Windows EXE. The input goes thru DirectX, and then to the game. -Larry > How did you make that work? From my understanding, the MS FF wheel does not > work at all with dos games because it is a digital controller. Apparently, > it either works or doesn't work with any particular system. Not much a guy > can do to correct it.

If you run NROS or any other multiplayer, you would have still been screwed. Both of these require the same DOS exe as N2. There is no multiplayer in the Win EXE. That really sucks, and it's probably the #1 thing that upsets people about N1999. The box implies otherwise... The NROS 'Feature' of N1999 is none other than a slightly stripped down Install of Nascar Racing 2, DOS Edition. -Larry > That's why I returned mine; there's NO way I'm going without Nascar > Racing. 'Course, right after I returned it, NR99 came out and it's Win95 > native...

I have had no problem running indycar2 or gpl with my sidewinder ff wheel Nascar is the only game i have had a problem running with the digital wheel.

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>Indy Car II has a Windows 95 EXE as well as a DOS exe. He is running >the Windows EXE. The input goes thru DirectX, and then to the game. >-Larry >> How did you make that work? From my understanding, the MS FF wheel does

not >> work at all with dos games because it is a digital controller. Apparently, >> it either works or doesn't work with any particular system. Not much a guy >> can do to correct it.