Gran Prix Legends Freezing

Hi all. Having a slight problem here.. First of all system specs. Intel P2 450. On a Abit BH6 Board Sound Blaster LIVE Value Diamond Monster 2 Win 98 with all latest updates from MS ATI Rage Pro AGP2x All devices are using the latest BIOS , drivers.. ECT.. Heres my problem. I start GPL, I get to the startup screen to enter my drivers name, within seconds, LOCK.. I have to cold reboot. I think it's a video driver issue, but have not examined it further yet. So I thought I'd just post this to see if anyone has any "quick" insight. I'm DYING TO play.. IC

get the reference drivers from www.3dfx.com for the voodoo2. do not install but unzip and put glide2x.dll in c:\sierra\gpl worked for me. also get a cooling fan for the voodoo2. www.3dfxcool.com

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>Hi all. >Having a slight problem here.. First of all system specs. >Intel P2 450. On a Abit BH6 Board >Sound Blaster LIVE Value >Diamond Monster 2 >Win 98 with all latest updates from MS >ATI Rage Pro AGP2x >All devices are using the latest BIOS , drivers.. ECT.. >Heres my problem. >I start GPL, I get to the startup screen to enter my drivers name, within >seconds, LOCK.. I have to cold reboot. >I think it's a video driver issue, but have not examined it further yet. >So I thought I'd just post this to see if anyone has any "quick" insight. >I'm DYING TO play.. >IC

Yeh i have the same problem. the only weird thing is that it doesnt crash every time. only sometimes. Usually when i start calibrating the steering wheel . But it locks up BIG TIME! PassedYa \ ..

I've had similar problems. I think you are right about it being a driver problem - I found the problem went away when I ensured that I had the latest drivers for everything, apart from the Glide2x.dll, which I took back to version 2.53 (rather than 2.54 which is the latest version). Hope this helps. Steve.

Diamond Monster.....once again those dreaded words echoed through the halls of power....and from the other end of the hall, someone was heard to utter, "Hey!!...Don't bring your stupid square mouse pointers around here sluggo!!!.....and the Orchid Righteous people broke into a wide grin. -- #33 Zandvoort 1.28.56 >Hi all. >Having a slight problem here.. First of all system specs. >Intel P2 450. On a Abit BH6 Board >Sound Blaster LIVE Value >Diamond Monster 2 >Win 98 with all latest updates from MS >ATI Rage Pro AGP2x >All devices are using the latest BIOS , drivers.. ECT.. >Heres my problem. >I start GPL, I get to the startup screen to enter my drivers name, within >seconds, LOCK.. I have to cold reboot. >I think it's a video driver issue, but have not examined it further yet. >So I thought I'd just post this to see if anyone has any "quick" insight. >I'm DYING TO play.. >IC

Diamond Monster...? -- #33 Zandvoort 1.28.56 >Yeh i have the same problem. the only weird thing is that it doesnt crash >every time. only sometimes. Usually when i start calibrating the steering >wheel . But it locks up BIG TIME! >PassedYa >\ >.. >>Heres my problem. >>I start GPL, I get to the startup screen to enter my drivers name, within >>seconds, LOCK.. I have to cold reboot. >>I think it's a video driver issue, but have not examined it further yet. >>So I thought I'd just post this to see if anyone has any "quick" insight. >>I'm DYING TO play.. >>IC

Once again, you are dirty on the Monster because you got a faulty card or you cooked it o/c'ing. Get the Glide 2.53 driver and put it in the GPL directory.

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> Diamond Monster.....once again those dreaded words echoed through the > halls of power....and from the other end of the hall, someone was heard > to utter, "Hey!!...Don't bring your stupid square mouse pointers around > here sluggo!!!.....and the Orchid Righteous people broke into a wide > grin. > -- > #33 > Zandvoort > 1.28.56 > >Hi all. > >Having a slight problem here.. First of all system specs. > >Intel P2 450. On a Abit BH6 Board > >Sound Blaster LIVE Value > >Diamond Monster 2 > >Win 98 with all latest updates from MS > >ATI Rage Pro AGP2x > >All devices are using the latest BIOS , drivers.. ECT.. > >Heres my problem. > >I start GPL, I get to the startup screen to enter my drivers name, > within > >seconds, LOCK.. I have to cold reboot. > >I think it's a video driver issue, but have not examined it further > yet. > >So I thought I'd just post this to see if anyone has any "quick" > insight. > >I'm DYING TO play.. > >IC

-- Todd Norbury SLONG GPL http://www.ozemail.com.au/~norbtech Seeya in the pits. Make sure there's a cold beer when I get back.

>Once again, you are dirty on the Monster because you got a faulty card or >you cooked it o/c'ing. Get the Glide 2.53 driver and put it in the GPL >directory. Not once again....it was pretty much at the same time...I have now been assimilated...resistance was futile. |o) -- #33 Zandvoort 1.28.56

I had freezing problems with my diamond monster 2 as well but when I lowered the clock value to the lowest setting...... everything worked fine. This seems to be an overheating problem and cooling off the card should allow you to increase the clock value. Vintook

As is 3dfx, and they are working on the problem. It is a bug in their Glide 2.54 drivers. This version of Glide does not properly synch with the hardware when it reads data out of the frame buffer. Sometimes this will cause GPL to leave 'mouse droppings', sometimes it can lock the 3dfx board. If you can't use the Glide 2.53 .dll for some reason, try to spend as little time as possible in the menus, and drive from the "F10" view instead of the***pit view. If you want faster response in getting this issue fixed, feel free to talk to 3dfx about it. In the mean time, if the screen locks, try hitting <del><ctrl><alt> (in that order - it is important to press and hold the <del> key FIRST - if you press it last, GPL never sees it). GPL will exit when it sees the <del><ctrl><alt>. The 3dfx board will most likely remain locked in its current state, and not return to pass-thru mode, so the machine will still appear to be hung, but it is actually running just fine. You can then hit the "Windows" key to bring up the Start Menu, press U to select Shutdown, press R to select Restart the computer, then press return to confirm. At least this will be a cleaner reboot than hitting the reset button. As for a GPL patch: Yes we are working on one. It should not be long before it is complete, but I won't give you an expected release date until it has been posted on-line. Randy

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> I've confirmed the problem with GPL freezing is caused by DirectX > 6.X If > your video drivers support DirectX 6, and you have DirectX 6 > loaded, GPL is > likely to hang at some point. Apparently the Sierra folks are well > aware of > the problem. It's rather annoying they haven't released a single > patch yet > for GPL when it has several major problems, with this latest one > being fatal > to many users. > I'm running a VooDoo2 and was able to solve the problem by > installing the > previous generation VooDoo drivers that do NOT support DirectX 6. > This > required removing the VooDoo board from the System Device Listing > and deleting > the various 3dfx files and .inf files left behind. I then > re-installed it > using the older drivers and everything works great (DirectX 6.1 is > still > installed). > So how 'bout it Sierra? GPL has been out for quite a while now, do > you > support your existing products, or just ship new ones full of major > bugs?

You do not have to go to these extreme lengths. The problem is an incompatibility with the new glide drivers in DirectX 6. All you have to do is place an old version of the glide2x.dll file (v2.53 from DirectX 5) in your GPL directory, this will allow GPL to work with DirectX 6, and all other programs will use the newer version of the file. 8-) *Peter* #:-)

Are you using Voodoo 2 with the latest drivers? If so, try the previous version of the driver. I had the same problem and it turned out to be the Voodoo 2 drivers.

Well, I've done that, put the glide 2.53 files into gpl folder. My screen is now locking up while driving. It's happening more and more now. The reason I installed the latest glide and direct x drivers was that GPL had started to lockup. I'm not sure what the fix is for all of this, but I'm going back to my old voodoo drivers completely, and if it still locks, I'm going to try and remove direct x and reinstall direct x 5.

> Are you using Voodoo 2 with the latest drivers? If so, try the previous > version of the driver. I had the same problem and it turned out to be the > Voodoo 2 drivers. To be more specific, if you have installed DirectX 6.0 and if your version of glide2x.dll is 2.54, that could be the problem. The solution is copying the previous version of 3dfx's glide2x.dll (version 2.53) in the GPL directory. Dave Ewing

On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:36:02 GMT, "Randy Cassidy" >In the mean time, if the screen locks, try hitting <del><ctrl><alt> (in >that order - it is important to press and hold the <del> key FIRST - if you >press it last, GPL never sees it). GPL will exit when it sees the ><del><ctrl><alt>. The 3dfx board will most likely remain locked in its >current state, and not return to pass-thru mode, so the machine will still <snip>> >Randy wow, so that's why <ctrl> <alt> <delete> never worked for me in GPL - I have the habit of hitting ctrl and alt THEN delete. This is the first time I've ever seen anything about having to press <del> first - and it works!!!!! Thanks Randy, Alan.