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GPL worth it? part 2

11 posts by 10 people · 06 Feb 1999 - 09 Feb 1999

GRUd 06 Feb 1999#448802
I'm more a racing fan than a computer fan, so I don't have the latest hardware. I have an AMD K6 200Mhz with no 3D card. The only game I play is GP2. For me, going to GPL means buying a 3D card and upgrading my processor. This could mean $400 or more including buying GPL. Is it still worth it? I was wondering if I should wait to see what requrements GP3 might have. Any opinions?
john moore 06 Feb 1999#448803
If you act fast you can drop in a celeron 300a / abit bh6 mobo for as little as $160, this combo will rin gpl fine at 300, and is awesome at 450! which can be acheived about 85-90% of the time, almost 100% to 374. You'll need a new case too, as little as $45, and 64 megs of ram. It is well worth the money, once you drive gpl at a constant 36fps with all the eye candy you will be glad you stepped up. JM > I'm more a racing fan than a computer fan, so I don't have the latest hardware. > I have an AMD K6 200Mhz with no 3D card. The only game I play is GP2. For > me, going to GPL means buying a 3D card and upgrading my processor. This could > mean $400 or more including buying GPL. Is it still worth it? I was wondering > if I should wait to see what requrements GP3 might have. Any opinions?
For sure, after doing the below and having it overclocked to 450, GPL is a whole new sim for me, it's awesome. -- Don Burnette Palmetto Racing Dburn on Ten >If you act fast you can drop in a celeron 300a / abit bh6 mobo for as little as >$160, this combo will rin gpl fine at 300, and is awesome at 450! which can be >acheived about 85-90% of the time, almost 100% to 374. You'll need a new case too, >as little as $45, and 64 megs of ram. It is well worth the money, once you drive >gpl at a constant 36fps with all the eye candy you will be glad you stepped up. >JM
Paul Jone 06 Feb 1999#448805
Yes, my friend, it is still worth it, Cheers, Paul > I'm more a racing fan than a computer fan, so I don't have the latest hardware. > I have an AMD K6 200Mhz with no 3D card. The only game I play is GP2. For > me, going to GPL means buying a 3D card and upgrading my processor. This could > mean $400 or more including buying GPL. Is it still worth it? I was wondering > if I should wait to see what requrements GP3 might have. Any opinions?
Jack 06 Feb 1999#448806
Man! I had no idea this setup was so inexpensive! And GPL performance is comparable to a PII-450 when overclocked? John, can you please give us a few good sources for these goodies and sites that we can visit for more information? At these prices, I might have to build a GPL machine for my wife!
SteveBla 06 Feb 1999#448807
Ditto on the 450 Celery route. Cheap and FAST; kinda like an old girlfriend of mine, but that's another.......... Pretty much ANY new game's going to want a good 3D card and more ooomph from the cpu, so go for it. Steve B. remove "edy" from address for email
john moore 06 Feb 1999#448808
It definitely performs as well as a pII450, only a few percentage points slower on business apps, a bit faster in most games. You must know that intel has stopped producing the celeron 300a so the supply is drying up really fast, you need to get on it asap. Read up on it at anandtech. For price and sourcing go to pricewatch.com. Read up at the overclockers forum. You should search ebay as well, I have no experience with this auction stuff, beware. As for the video card definitely go with the hercules thriller 8meg, agp is recommended over the agp. FYI either abit mobo, bx6 or bh6, allows you to o/c by changing the setup in software during the boot up, super easy. As for the case check this site out. It would be really nice to add a 128meg chip of pc100 ram too. Just a reminder, case $86, mobo $97, celery $ 61, subtotal $244, video $111, ram $156 total just over $500, this system will run so fast, GPL with everything on, all cars, all graphics gets you high 20's fps on the grid and 36+ ( gpl's max) before you get 2nd gear, it really is nice, highly recommended. JM
Quoted text (7 lines)> Man! I had no idea this setup was so inexpensive! And GPL performance is > comparable to a PII-450 when overclocked? > John, can you please give us a few good sources for these goodies and sites > that we can visit for more information? > At these prices, I might have to build a GPL machine for my wife!
Arto Wikla 06 Feb 1999#448809
I think it is still worth of it. Definetely! Also I am a great lover of GP2, and the only sim better really is GPL. Go to it. You'll not regret! Arto
Heh heh. If you're an old fart like me, you'll no doubt remember all the bullsh*t we had to listen to from Geoff/not-Geoff concerning the state of GP2. New rumors were daily coming straight from the development team, and the release date kept being pushed back and back and back. When it did finally release, the graphics engine it used were hardly state of the art, and there were a few quirky things I absolutely hated. The "Spin Cycle" being the most prominent. I'm sure al GP2-ers know EXACTLY what I mean. The moral? Don't wait for GP3. It will be quite some time in the future, and unless they get some really new *** in there, I don't think it will measure up (relatively speaking) to the Standards of excellence that GPL has set today. And before you flame me for dissing GP2, know that I was happily spending my friday nights racing in our F1GP series with five people here at my house, and five more at my neighbor's house. When we (finally) got GP2, 6 of us die hards kept the series going until just last year. Mike R Avetikus Racing >I'm more a racing fan than a computer fan, so I don't have the latest hardware. > I have an AMD K6 200Mhz with no 3D card. The only game I play is GP2. For >me, going to GPL means buying a 3D card and upgrading my processor. This could >mean $400 or more including buying GPL. Is it still worth it? I was wondering >if I should wait to see what requrements GP3 might have. Any opinions?
>I'm more a racing fan than a computer fan, so I don't have the latest hardware. > I have an AMD K6 200Mhz with no 3D card. The only game I play is GP2. For >me, going to GPL means buying a 3D card and upgrading my processor. This could >mean $400 or more including buying GPL. Is it still worth it? I was wondering >if I should wait to see what requrements GP3 might have. Any opinions? In addition to what everybody else said (and I agree, it is worth it, if you like auto sims!), if you want a machine for GP3, you might as well buy as much CPU horsepower as you can get, judging from previous experience. Unless Mr. Crammond has changed his ways of coding considerably, GP3 will require a killer machine to run smoothly. :) BTW, GP2 will also still get better and better with a faster computer. If you want to go the Slot 1 Celeron 300a route, you should hurry, since it looks as if Intel is phasing out that product in favor of the new socket 370 Celeron, which will not be (as) overclockable anymore. -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.
Pure rumor, but from reliable sources... Geoff has (this time around), opted to hire professional coders and is concetrating on the "physics" and design rather than doing it all himself (top to bottom). -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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