Toca 2

Interesting how the demo release barely caused a blip here. It actually is pretty fun, great idea, if it had come off any better it may have lasted longer than one day on my system. JM ps, this is not a slam, just an observation, flame away if you can't handle it.

Posted my thoughts on TOCA2 on this NG some days ago. I thought it was disappointing. Perhaps I have become accustomed to the quality of the graphics and realism in GPL. TOCA2 just seems to cartoony and those spinouts are too much. I'll probably save my money, bypass the game and just wait for Alpha Centuri I suppose. PJ

I can't believe you guys can say that? I dont know any other racing sim that i have found more enjoyable for a long time, not since F1GP2 (nothing touches this yet!) anyway. I think the graphics are great, much better than the original version. What resolutions are you running in? At 1024x768, with 3dfx and all detail turned up, i think that the cars are greatly detailed. What about the drivers working away inside the car? Anyway graphics arent everything. I think it is greatly exciting racing. And this is only the demo! I do see what you mean about the spins however, especially on the first corner at Croft! There seems to be a pile up every time, but then again this is the BTCC!

Ah oh well why am I replying ? Why should I care about him... heh well.. Im sure "you" know better than us, us being some people with past racing experience, or who currently are real-life racecar drivers. Better than us, us who have seen at least 100+ titles in the history of r.a.s., with well know beta testers, or related anykind with virtual racing experience. Oh and btw, do they actually plan to ship Toca2 before 2005 in the US ? I mean, there's no excuse with today's globalisation to NOT be able to ship the title soon enough in the US. And don't say business terms, I know that it's false. Ship the Gold CD, locate a printer and do the same warehouse/store business like you do in the rest of the world. Money is not a factor here. No wonder Codemasters titles are alot warezed. What if somebody is really a college professor ? 1 million copies ? Oh yeah you should had said "_Including the PSX versions_". *PLONK* ---------- "Mr. Professor can I raise my hand I have a question for you" <mark31600> Yes and call me only "My lord" please. What is it my inferior living creature ? "I think your full of shite, my Lord" --------- -= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -= May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

<SNIP> You sure do talk confusingly! I am not even sure if you are FOR or AGAINST TOCA2? And as for your comments about racing experience, DO you have any? Cause I DO! I have raced in SCCA from 1974 till 1987 when I quit. But now I am back at it again. And if you know your GT Racing, you'd know who PD Cunningham is, and we used to race together back in the Midwest (and I used to beat him back then). I had raced at Blackhawk Farms, Road America, IRP (the other one), WISC State Fair Park, Grattan, Detroit Westin Center, Rockford Speedway, Lake Geneva Speedway, and was even lucky enough to have raced on the long missed Riverside track. I have been in numerous Triumphs (Spit & GT6), 2 Lotus Europa's, Cortina GT, RX7, and a few others. And when I was NOT racing, I was a Paddoch Marshal as well as a Course Marshal in SCCA and so worked at the tracks as well. So, for me, I think TOCA2 is WAY MORE FUN than NASCAR or GPL, and I get more pumped up with TOAC2 or Viper than GPL, and way more than NASCAR. But then, except for the 2 Europa's which were kinda like a larger formula car, my racing has been in sports cars, and so that is where my taste is. But next to TOCA2 (seeing as there IS a demo of it to get a taste for what's coming), I can't WAIT for the new Pro Sports Car Racing game soon to come!!!

I think Codemaster REALLY needs to decide if they're going to do a proper sim or an arcade game.I was looking forward to this after being disappointed with TOCA 1 and hearing they were concentrating on it being realistic.Colin McRae suffered from the same problems.Come on Codemasters if I want an arcade game I'd have bought a playstation. >Interesting how the demo release barely caused a blip here. It actually >is pretty fun, great idea, if it had come off any better it may have >lasted longer than one day on my system. >JM >ps, this is not a slam, just an observation, flame away if you can't >handle it.

I couldn't agree more. Toca 2 could have been and should have been much more of a SIM than Toca 1 but unfortunately hasn't turned out that way. It's a shame. That said, more than enough people will enjoy the game and why shoudn't they? Each to their own. Then again, you never know what changes they may make for the "proper" release. Craig. >I think Codemaster REALLY needs to decide if they're going to do a proper >sim or an arcade game.I was looking forward to this after being disappointed

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>with TOCA 1 and hearing they were concentrating on it being realistic.Colin >McRae suffered from the same problems.Come on Codemasters if I want an >arcade game I'd have bought a playstation. >>Interesting how the demo release barely caused a blip here. It actually >>is pretty fun, great idea, if it had come off any better it may have >>lasted longer than one day on my system. >>JM >>ps, this is not a slam, just an observation, flame away if you can't >>handle it.

Both. Im never against a title, unless it's from Ubisoft (inside joke hee hee) I just don't understand the guy's point of view. Most of us downloaded the demo, and after did a quick review of the demo on r.a.s. After we moved along to other stuff. Nobody was harsh on the software. Couple of bad points, little slap on their fingers in terms of the physic realism and canned physics. Some praises also. Of course I do have racing experience. I was a driver in a private Volvo Touring series at Mont-Tremblant made by Volvo of Canada, a series that was raced by each Volvo concession (sp?) in the East of Canada. It's your opinion. I respect that. But what you said is way different from the guy who wrote "You people are a bunch of morons that talks like University professors". Now this is offensive, compared to your opinion. Btw, SportsCar GT will be very very very interesting, especially if they tweak their online multiplayer racing capabilities to the level of at least GPL, to create a good online endurance racing series. But I don't expect near the quality of the NROS. And Toca2 is out on the PSX, btw ;-) -= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -= May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

I wonder, as you got me thinking about the online endurance racing, . . . . what ever happened to that LeMans game that was supposed to come out awhile ago? It was supposed to even have an online version of it for the FULL 24 hours, and even supposedly allow driver changes too!

If I remember correctly it was a arcade style title that never went past beta stages of development. At the end it was for the N64 only I think. -= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -= May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."