Logitech Formula force question.

YES! You the updated driver from Logitech home page though. >Before I take this P.O.S. thrustmaster Force wheel back. >Could some kind soul tell me is the Logitech model self centering? >For example in GPL? >It looks like I'm gonna have to give up on the stick shifter :( >Paul..

Before I take this P.O.S. thrustmaster Force wheel back. Could some kind soul tell me is the Logitech model self centering? For example in GPL? It looks like I'm gonna have to give up on the stick shifter :( Paul..

Before buying that Logitec, better check out the pedals. They're getting slammed by reviewers and buyers alike. The problem is the extremely short throw of the pedals. One post said they are so short that driving GPL is impossible. Be careful. Doug >Before I take this P.O.S. thrustmaster Force wheel back. >Could some kind soul tell me is the Logitech model self centering? >For example in GPL? >It looks like I'm gonna have to give up on the stick shifter :( >Paul..

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>Before buying that Logitec, better check out the pedals. They're getting >slammed by reviewers and buyers alike. The problem is the extremely short >throw of the pedals. One post said they are so short that driving GPL is >impossible. >Be careful. >Doug >>Before I take this P.O.S. thrustmaster Force wheel back. >>Could some kind soul tell me is the Logitech model self centering? >>For example in GPL? >>It looks like I'm gonna have to give up on the stick shifter :( >>Paul..

I drive GPL everyday with a Logitech Formula Force. You'd have to pry my dead cold fingers from around this wheel before you could get it away from me. The pedal fix is simple and easy.Check out the discussion group on <http://www.force-1.com/> or email me for details. I also drive GP2, F1RS, CMR, Viper and various demos with it, can't get N2 to work though. -don

I'm a rookie at this, but i just bought one, and it does turn total left and than right and then center on boot-up... in control panel it says it "self calibrates". >Before I take this P.O.S. thrustmaster Force wheel back. >Could some kind soul tell me is the Logitech model self centering? >For example in GPL? >It looks like I'm gonna have to give up on the stick shifter :( >Paul..

: I drive GPL everyday with a Logitech Formula Force. You'd have to pry my dead : cold fingers from around this wheel before you could get it away from me. : : The pedal fix is simple and easy.Check out the discussion group on : <http://www.force-1.com/> or email me for details. : I heard people who've placed squash/tennis ball behind the pedals to fix the problem or replacing the springs with better ones. I just like to know whether it's possible to swap the whole pedals set with a different one, for example with the tsw2 pedals. Are there electronics in the logitech pedals ? if not, is it possible just to swap the wiring ? regards, Badrul Hisham

YUP. There are two pots in the pedals, three wires each; simple plug-ins. I swapped the Logitech wiring into my beloved CH pedals, and it's much nicer. But the stockers really aren't that bad, if you just stiffen the springs. I've had TM pedals and I liked the function of the Logitech ones better out of the box. Steve B. remove "edy" from address for email

Right well the Thrustmaster P.O.S. went back today and in a couple of days I should have my nice red logitech. Now I used to have a TM nascar pro so I guess I kinda like stiff springs. Well you know the next question, what springs do I take out and what do I put back in? Where can I get these springs? are they expensive? Keeping in mind that I'm in Europe would some kind soul send me the springs in the post and I will send some cash back? Many thanks for the answers. Paul..

Paul, Take the screws out of the bottom of the pedals and open the case, you'll find two whimpy coil springs. Take these to a hardware store or a plumbers shop and find something made of thicker wire and close in diameter to the original springs, if the new springs are too long just cut them down to the proper length. I paid less than two dollars for the springs and chose a heavier spring for the brake than the throttle. Another tip with the Logitech wheel, sometimes they have a very slight (2-3 mm) bit of play in the wheel on center, not a problem really just a "loose" feel. VERY carefully remove the plastic center of the wheel, use a fine jewlers screwdriver, it is a very tight fit. There is a central nut holding the wheel in place with a circuit board behind it. This nut must be tightened slightly but BE VERY CAREFUL, if you crack the board, you're screwed. There is a washer under the nut which has a folding tab to hold the nut in place, fold it down before tightening the wheel and restore it when the nut is tight again. I hope you enjoy your new wheel, -don

I have seen a lot of talk about the pedals but I have found them to be fine, albiet a little sensitive. I'll be stiffening the springs though. Overall the wheel is great! No probs with GPL, you just need to be smooth just like everything else in GPL. -=Dave.

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>Before buying that Logitec, better check out the pedals. They're getting >slammed by reviewers and buyers alike. The problem is the extremely short >throw of the pedals. One post said they are so short that driving GPL is >impossible. >Be careful. >Doug >>Before I take this P.O.S. thrustmaster Force wheel back. >>Could some kind soul tell me is the Logitech model self centering? >>For example in GPL? >>It looks like I'm gonna have to give up on the stick shifter :( >>Paul..

Hi I need some help with the WFF and GPL. I can't seem to use the wheel in this game; there is no option that I can find under input devices to choose the wheel. When I choose to calibrate after unchecking DirectInput and checking General (I think), I get a screens showing 3 axes which say Unregistered. When moving the wheel around and the pedals too, I see some of the numbers moving, but when I start a race, I still get no response from the WFF. Or do I have to setup a profile for GPL separately in the WFF control panel? Thanks in advance for your help! Sunny Chow

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> I have seen a lot of talk about the pedals but I have found them to be > fine, albiet a little sensitive. I'll be stiffening the springs > though. Overall the wheel is great! No probs with GPL, you just need > to be smooth just like everything else in GPL. > -=Dave. > >Before buying that Logitec, better check out the pedals. They're getting > >slammed by reviewers and buyers alike. The problem is the extremely short > >throw of the pedals. One post said they are so short that driving GPL is > >impossible. > >Be careful. > >Doug > >>Before I take this P.O.S. thrustmaster Force wheel back. > >>Could some kind soul tell me is the Logitech model self centering? > >>For example in GPL? > >>It looks like I'm gonna have to give up on the stick shifter :( > >>Paul..

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You have to use DirectInput, not Generic. Make sure the wheel is setup properly in your Windows Game Controllers control panel. >Hi >I need some help with the WFF and GPL. I can't seem to use the wheel in this >game; there is no option that I can find under input devices to choose the >wheel. >When I choose to calibrate after unchecking DirectInput and checking General >(I think), I get a screens showing 3 axes which say Unregistered. When moving >the wheel around and the pedals too, I see some of the numbers moving, but >when I start a race, I still get no response from the WFF. >Or do I have to setup a profile for GPL separately in the WFF control panel?

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>Thanks in advance for your help! >Sunny Chow >> I have seen a lot of talk about the pedals but I have found them to be >> fine, albiet a little sensitive. I'll be stiffening the springs >> though. Overall the wheel is great! No probs with GPL, you just need >> to be smooth just like everything else in GPL. >> -=Dave. >> >Before buying that Logitec, better check out the pedals. They're getting >> >slammed by reviewers and buyers alike. The problem is the extremely

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>> >throw of the pedals. One post said they are so short that driving GPL is >> >impossible. >> >Be careful. >> >Doug >> >>Before I take this P.O.S. thrustmaster Force wheel back. >> >>Could some kind soul tell me is the Logitech model self centering? >> >>For example in GPL? >> >>It looks like I'm gonna have to give up on the stick shifter :( >> >>Paul.. >-- >Regards >Sunny Chow >-------------------------------------------------------------- >HomePage: http://web.singnet.com.sg/~sunnyc >Aviation Art webpage: http://www.flight2000.com/airscapes >--------------------------------------------------------------

It's a digital wheel. You _must_ use DirectInput. -Larry > When I choose to calibrate after unchecking DirectInput and checking General > (I think), I get a screens showing 3 axes which say Unregistered. When moving > the wheel around and the pedals too, I see some of the numbers moving, but > when I start a race, I still get no response from the WFF.