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GP2: Celeron or PII-cpu????

5 posts by 4 people · 30 Jan 1999 - 31 Jan 1999

Hi, can anyone point out to me which processor is better/which has a better price-performance value: the PII or the Celeron. For instance: when I want a PII-450-cpu, can this be compared to an equal-in-speed cpu from the Celeron-range (if needed an overclocked one). Because Celerons are much cheaper than PII's, I want to know the speed difference between these cpu's, especially with GP2. Thanks!!!! -- Erik van Duijn Katwijk, Holland
I haven't directly compared a PII-xxx to a Celeron running at xxx, but have read a few reviews with game framerate comparisons. In virtually all, an equivalently clocked Celeron ran games at the same speed, within a percent or so, as compared to the PII. However, there's always the chance that some particular title may more strongly benefit from the PII's larger L2 cache than the C's faster one. Oh, of course, get the 300A with the L2 cache. Once one consideres prices, an OC'd (if you can) Celeron is a blowout winner compared to a PII. As to GP2, here's what I get in PO when I start a Monaco race in 6th with absolutely all details on and framerate (I believe) at 16 fps:
SteveBla 30 Jan 1999#447850
Hi Erik. The Celeron is definitely the better value, as long as you don't mind OC'ing it. A 300A at 450 benchmarks basically equal to a PII450; a bit better in *** and a bit worse in biz-apps, but neither enough to notice. The problem is that the 300A supply is drying up, especially the retail versions that tend to OC more reliably. The newer 366 and 400 versions are basically the same but with different locked multipliers (300A=4.5, 366A=5.5, and 400a=6.0). This affects how well they will OC, and what bus speed you'll need to do it, which can impact your peripherals. Using a motherboard like an Abit BH6 that allows jumperless settings for bus speed/mulitplier/cpu voltage will help you get the most out of your cpu, whichever you choose. Cheers, Steve B. remove "edy" from address for email
Brian 31 Jan 1999#447987
This is off-topic, but I installed FastVid http://www.fastgraphics.com/fastvid.html "a small utility which enables write posting and write combining. Running FastVid on Pentium Pro or Pentium II systems can improve the CPU to PCI / AGP data transfer rate". It only helps speed up DOS games. PII 450, 128MB, STB TNT video Tested with GP2 by watching a car start in 6th from in-car view, all details on, framerate set to max (25.3+ fps): Occupancy went from 130% to 120% (about an average of 10% lower throughout lap). Brian >As to GP2, here's what I get in PO when I start a Monaco race in 6th with >absolutely all details on and framerate (I believe) at 16 fps:
Small correction: >>As to GP2, here's what I get in PO when I start a Monaco race in 6th with >>absolutely all details on and framerate (I believe) at 16 fps: Actually, it wasn't with all details (textures) on, but just the major ones (tracks, cars, hills, one other). But I just tried with everything on and the

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