GPL Frametrate and ADSL

With your frame rate problems with the SLI, i know the answer. GPL is processor limited not graphics limited. With the high physics at a high mhz as compared to like 4 in other games it is much more processor hungry and the AI is much more complex (it has to calculate THEIR physics also) so your processor is overloaded and your video card is waiting for new input. I have the same setup as you and i have problems getting good frames with 20 cars also. I race with half to no detail bias and just cars in the mirrors and it works ok (all effects off like lighting). With your adsl, i would guess that it has to do with the more info coming in so your processor is doing more processing all this info coming in faster. That is my guess. Wosco

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>I have a 350Mhz PII, 100 MHz bus, 128MB RAM, a Monster 3DII 12MB and a >24X CDROM. >I play GPL on VROC all of the time, and have been since it was >created. I was playing using a 56K modem, and it worked OK. >First: >I recently added a second Monster 3DII (SLI), and I saw very minor >gains in framerate (and I didn't change any settings in the game; >graphics, sound, etc.). All of my other games were improved by almost >double in performance/framerate, and that was with the res changed >from 800x600 to 1024x768. My first question is: are there hidden >settings for GPL I am not aware of (i.e. ini files or something) >related to framerate performance? Of course, the claim of SLI mode (by >Diamond) is incredible leaps in framerate, which I believe due to >other game performance increases. It seems as though I cannot push >beyond about 30-32 framerate!! Even if I turn down settings, it never >climbs above this rate. It seems kind of ridiculous that a machine >like mine (which could almost launch the space shuttle) struggles with >this game! >Second: >I just changed my internet connection from 56K dialup to ADSL. Wow! >what a difference in browsing and downloading. It immediately improved >*** online (such as Rainbow six, European Air War, etc by leaps and >bounds). Unfortunately, the framerate in GPL went DOWN!! I have no >idea how this is possible, but it did! The same question applies here: >are there hidden settings for GPL I am not aware of (i.e. ini files or >something) related to online play with fast connections? I am using >the core.ini supplied by Alison Hine. >I was able to un REM the line in the Core.ini that allows me to play >via TCP/IP with the ADSL connection. >William King

William, I have 2 Monster 3DII 12MB in a PII-450 and had the same problem of not getting above 30fps. Someone else here on the newsgroup pointed out that I needed to set my refresh rate to something greater than 60Hz (I went to 75Hz) and to click on "don't sync buffer swaps to monitor refresh rate" in the control panel. Once I did this, I got consistent 36fps even at 1024x768 full detail with 19 AI. Wayne Hutchison

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>I have a 350Mhz PII, 100 MHz bus, 128MB RAM, a Monster 3DII 12MB and a >24X CDROM. >I play GPL on VROC all of the time, and have been since it was >created. I was playing using a 56K modem, and it worked OK. >First: >I recently added a second Monster 3DII (SLI), and I saw very minor >gains in framerate (and I didn't change any settings in the game; >graphics, sound, etc.). All of my other games were improved by almost >double in performance/framerate, and that was with the res changed >from 800x600 to 1024x768. My first question is: are there hidden >settings for GPL I am not aware of (i.e. ini files or something) >related to framerate performance? Of course, the claim of SLI mode (by >Diamond) is incredible leaps in framerate, which I believe due to >other game performance increases. It seems as though I cannot push >beyond about 30-32 framerate!! Even if I turn down settings, it never >climbs above this rate. It seems kind of ridiculous that a machine >like mine (which could almost launch the space shuttle) struggles with >this game! >Second: >I just changed my internet connection from 56K dialup to ADSL. Wow! >what a difference in browsing and downloading. It immediately improved >*** online (such as Rainbow six, European Air War, etc by leaps and >bounds). Unfortunately, the framerate in GPL went DOWN!! I have no >idea how this is possible, but it did! The same question applies here: >are there hidden settings for GPL I am not aware of (i.e. ini files or >something) related to online play with fast connections? I am using >the core.ini supplied by Alison Hine. >I was able to un REM the line in the Core.ini that allows me to play >via TCP/IP with the ADSL connection. >William King

I have a 350Mhz PII, 100 MHz bus, 128MB RAM, a Monster 3DII 12MB and a 24X CDROM. I play GPL on VROC all of the time, and have been since it was created. I was playing using a 56K modem, and it worked OK. First: I recently added a second Monster 3DII (SLI), and I saw very minor gains in framerate (and I didn't change any settings in the game; graphics, sound, etc.). All of my other games were improved by almost double in performance/framerate, and that was with the res changed from 800x600 to 1024x768. My first question is: are there hidden settings for GPL I am not aware of (i.e. ini files or something) related to framerate performance? Of course, the claim of SLI mode (by Diamond) is incredible leaps in framerate, which I believe due to other game performance increases. It seems as though I cannot push beyond about 30-32 framerate!! Even if I turn down settings, it never climbs above this rate. It seems kind of ridiculous that a machine like mine (which could almost launch the space shuttle) struggles with this game! Second: I just changed my internet connection from 56K dialup to ADSL. Wow! what a difference in browsing and downloading. It immediately improved *** online (such as Rainbow six, European Air War, etc by leaps and bounds). Unfortunately, the framerate in GPL went DOWN!! I have no idea how this is possible, but it did! The same question applies here: are there hidden settings for GPL I am not aware of (i.e. ini files or something) related to online play with fast connections? I am using the core.ini supplied by Alison Hine. I was able to un REM the line in the Core.ini that allows me to play via TCP/IP with the ADSL connection. William King

<Snip great advice> Wayne, I want to have your baby! Remco

Wayne, YOU ARE THE MAN!!! I changed my settings and I now run GPL at 800x600, full mirrors, full detail bias, and full detail settings. I AM PEGGED AT 36 f/s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the great tip. I had sent this message to sierra, and they didn't have the answer. I told them about your solution!!!! Thanks again. On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:55:00 -0500, "Wayne Hutchison"

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>William, >I have 2 Monster 3DII 12MB in a PII-450 and had the same problem of not >getting above 30fps. Someone else here on the newsgroup pointed out that I >needed to set my refresh rate to something greater than 60Hz (I went to >75Hz) and to click on "don't sync buffer swaps to monitor refresh rate" in >the control panel. Once I did this, I got consistent 36fps even at 1024x768 >full detail with 19 AI. >Wayne Hutchison >>I have a 350Mhz PII, 100 MHz bus, 128MB RAM, a Monster 3DII 12MB and a >>24X CDROM. >>I play GPL on VROC all of the time, and have been since it was >>created. I was playing using a 56K modem, and it worked OK. >>First: >>I recently added a second Monster 3DII (SLI), and I saw very minor >>gains in framerate (and I didn't change any settings in the game; >>graphics, sound, etc.). All of my other games were improved by almost >>double in performance/framerate, and that was with the res changed >>from 800x600 to 1024x768. My first question is: are there hidden >>settings for GPL I am not aware of (i.e. ini files or something) >>related to framerate performance? Of course, the claim of SLI mode (by >>Diamond) is incredible leaps in framerate, which I believe due to >>other game performance increases. It seems as though I cannot push >>beyond about 30-32 framerate!! Even if I turn down settings, it never >>climbs above this rate. It seems kind of ridiculous that a machine >>like mine (which could almost launch the space shuttle) struggles with >>this game! >>Second: >>I just changed my internet connection from 56K dialup to ADSL. Wow! >>what a difference in browsing and downloading. It immediately improved >>*** online (such as Rainbow six, European Air War, etc by leaps and >>bounds). Unfortunately, the framerate in GPL went DOWN!! I have no >>idea how this is possible, but it did! The same question applies here: >>are there hidden settings for GPL I am not aware of (i.e. ini files or >>something) related to online play with fast connections? I am using >>the core.ini supplied by Alison Hine. >>I was able to un REM the line in the Core.ini that allows me to play >>via TCP/IP with the ADSL connection. >>William King

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