RASETCC - Laguna Seca

This is a frustrating track! I have yet to get even close to hitting 80% of the corners right on the same lap. And I seem to have a penchant for eating tires. After about three laps, they are gone. Feels like I'm just skating around on ice. I'm going to need about 15 pit stops for new rubber. So far, my times are hanging around in the 1:39 range. Every once in a while I get a lap where I get maybe half the corners right -- on fresh tires -- and I get into the high 1:38s. How is everyone else doing? (Should I just hang around in the pits and chat up the pit babes instead of wasting all that money on sets of new Goodyears?) -- Darryl

Im getting down to the 35-36's but like you Im literally eating tires. Im still confused by this front wheel drive car and its orientation on the LCD and setup screens. Is the front of the car reversed in the display? Seems no matter what I do the fronts just melt after 1-2 laps and the rears never change from purple. On other question, has anyone seen a heat chart for the tires in F1C and its mods? I would think red would be worst but its not. Is yellow the highest temp? Mitch "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:VfcQb.20001$[email hidden]...

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> This is a frustrating track! I have yet to get even close to hitting > 80% of the corners right on the same lap. And I seem to have a penchant > for eating tires. After about three laps, they are gone. Feels like I'm > just skating around on ice. I'm going to need about 15 pit stops for > new rubber. > > So far, my times are hanging around in the 1:39 range. Every once in a > while I get a lap where I get maybe half the corners right -- on fresh > tires -- and I get into the high 1:38s. How is everyone else doing? > (Should I just hang around in the pits and chat up the pit babes > instead of wasting all that money on sets of new Goodyears?) > > -- > Darryl

Mitch_A wrote in news:RZcQb.4995$L%[email hidden]:

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> Im getting down to the 35-36's but like you Im literally eating > tires. Im still confused by this front wheel drive car and its > orientation on the LCD and setup screens. Is the front of the > car reversed in the display? Seems no matter what I do the fronts > just melt after 1-2 laps and the rears never change from purple. > On other question, has anyone seen a heat chart for the tires in > F1C and its mods? I would think red would be worst but its not. > Is yellow the highest temp? > > Mitch >

In the setup screens, the wheel settings are close to the wheel to which they apply. The topview shows the side mirrors -- if you can't tell the front windscreen from the rear window -- and everything is clearly indicated on the display. That seems pretty straightforward, even for me. But I see what you mean about the LCD view of the car. I had assumed that the front of the car was on the left (where the transmission was represented) and that the rear of the car was on the right (where what I assumed to be the gas tank appeared). However, by driving headlong into a wall, I managed to damage the "gas tank", so I guess that rectangle is supposed to be the engine. Which would make the front of the car (in the LCD view) the end on the right. Exactly the reverse of the setup screens. That would mean it is the front tires you are destroying (and me too). The heat colurs seem to be purple (base temp), red, then yellow. By yellow, I'm sliding all over the place. If there are "hotter" colours possible, I sure don't want to know about them. By the way, I never look at the LCD display. Too hard to see, for one thing. I use the HUD to show me fuel, and I can feel the tires or any other damage that might be causing a problem. That other stuff, like water temps: that's for sissies! LOL!! -- Darryl

In article <VfcQb.20001$[email hidden]>, Darryl Johnson <[email hidden]> writes: >This is a frustrating track! I have yet to get even close to hitting >80% of the corners right on the same lap. And I seem to have a penchant >for eating tires. After about three laps, they are gone. Feels like I'm >just skating around on ice. I'm going to need about 15 pit stops for >new rubber. Sounds like me at Sebring...<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 ChallengeRank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:51:42 GMT, Darryl Johnson <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>But I see what you mean about the LCD view of the car. I had assumed >that the front of the car was on the left (where the transmission was >represented) and that the rear of the car was on the right (where >what I assumed to be the gas tank appeared). > >However, by driving headlong into a wall, I managed to damage the >"gas tank", so I guess that rectangle is supposed to be the engine. >Which would make the front of the car (in the LCD view) the end on >the right. Exactly the reverse of the setup screens. That would mean >it is the front tires you are destroying (and me too).

The rectangle on the right is the front wing, the rectangle on the left is the rear wing, the bit in the middle is the engine. The LCD display is the same as it is for an F1 car. Jason

I'm really, really sorry about this but I won't be able to make it this afternoon - family problems. As there's not too many of us perhaps someone else could host. Have fun all and sorry again. Regards "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:VfcQb.20001$[email hidden]...

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> This is a frustrating track! I have yet to get even close to hitting > 80% of the corners right on the same lap. And I seem to have a penchant > for eating tires. After about three laps, they are gone. Feels like I'm > just skating around on ice. I'm going to need about 15 pit stops for > new rubber. > > So far, my times are hanging around in the 1:39 range. Every once in a > while I get a lap where I get maybe half the corners right -- on fresh > tires -- and I get into the high 1:38s. How is everyone else doing? > (Should I just hang around in the pits and chat up the pit babes > instead of wasting all that money on sets of new Goodyears?) > > -- > Darryl

I can host today. As we won't like have very many people I'll open it up to the general F1RST community. Laguna is too good to pass up... and we can always race it again next week when Neil is back. Cheers. Spud Neil Charlton wrote:

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> I'm really, really sorry about this but I won't be able to make it this > afternoon - family problems. As there's not too many of us perhaps someone > else could host. > > Have fun all and sorry again. > > Regards > > "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:VfcQb.20001$[email hidden]... > >>This is a frustrating track! I have yet to get even close to hitting >>80% of the corners right on the same lap. And I seem to have a penchant >>for eating tires. After about three laps, they are gone. Feels like I'm >>just skating around on ice. I'm going to need about 15 pit stops for >>new rubber. >> >>So far, my times are hanging around in the 1:39 range. Every once in a >>while I get a lap where I get maybe half the corners right -- on fresh >>tires -- and I get into the high 1:38s. How is everyone else doing? >>(Should I just hang around in the pits and chat up the pit babes >>instead of wasting all that money on sets of new Goodyears?) >> >>-- >> Darryl > > >

Thanks for stepping in, Spud. -- Darryl Spudster wrote in news:SmSQb.259238$JQ1.152086@pd7tw1no: > I can host today. As we won't like have very many people I'll open > it up to the general F1RST community. Laguna is too good to pass > up... and we can always race it again next week when Neil is back. > > Cheers. > > Spud > > > Neil Charlton wrote: > >> I'm really, really sorry about this but I won't be able to make >> it this afternoon - family problems. As there's not too many of >> us perhaps someone else could host. >> >> Have fun all and sorry again. >> >> Regards >>

Darryl Johnson wrote in news:0rSQb.307$mf4.67246 @news20.bellglobal.com: > Thanks for stepping in, Spud. Total brain fade on my part. Too much time with the NASCAR sims, when qualifying laps are counted separate from the out-lap. I ended up crossing the finish line one too many times and I assume was DQ'd as a result. Damn! Had a not bad starting position (as far as I could tell at the time). In my frustration, I hit the "Quit" icon and then compounded the error by saying "yes" to the prompt. Too late to even stick around and watch (or to verify that I was being DQ'd). When things go wrong, things _really_ go wrong. I am _not_ going to try buying lottery tickets today. <g> -- Darryl

You wouldn't have been DQ'd Darryl cuz the game was set for 12 qual laps... even though I chose 3 laps in F1RST setup. As usual, we had a few laps with some close racing, but then we got pretty spread out so and not so great for the last 20 laps. Sorry about opening it up to the others, but I didn't think we would have enough guys to make it interesting. And, I wanted to test my new connection (512k up, 3000k down) to see if I could host a field of 10, but doesn't look like it. I think 8 is the max for this speed of connection and 6 is much better. Once attrition dropped us down to 6, it was silky smooth. Cya, Spud. Darryl Johnson wrote:

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> Darryl Johnson wrote in news:0rSQb.307$mf4.67246 > @news20.bellglobal.com: > > >>Thanks for stepping in, Spud. > > > Total brain fade on my part. Too much time with the NASCAR sims, when > qualifying laps are counted separate from the out-lap. I ended up > crossing the finish line one too many times and I assume was DQ'd as > a result. Damn! Had a not bad starting position (as far as I could > tell at the time). > > In my frustration, I hit the "Quit" icon and then compounded the > error by saying "yes" to the prompt. Too late to even stick around > and watch (or to verify that I was being DQ'd). When things go wrong, > things _really_ go wrong. I am _not_ going to try buying lottery > tickets today. <g> >

Thanks Spud for hosting. One of these days Ill figure this sim out. Finally got tires and they wouldnt give me any gas :) I was going for a 2 stop race and after I came in on L10 I was outta gas. Didnt even notice I wasnt getting any till I was back on track. Oh well this turned into a good practice. You were right about tire pressure. A couple small adj really helps me save my RF. Mitch "Spudster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uwUQb.266615$X%5.210979@pd7tw2no...

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> You wouldn't have been DQ'd Darryl cuz the game was set for 12 qual > laps... even though I chose 3 laps in F1RST setup. As usual, we had a > few laps with some close racing, but then we got pretty spread out so > and not so great for the last 20 laps. > > Sorry about opening it up to the others, but I didn't think we would > have enough guys to make it interesting. And, I wanted to test my new > connection (512k up, 3000k down) to see if I could host a field of 10, > but doesn't look like it. I think 8 is the max for this speed of > connection and 6 is much better. Once attrition dropped us down to 6, it > was silky smooth. > > Cya, > Spud. > > Darryl Johnson wrote: > > Darryl Johnson wrote in news:0rSQb.307$mf4.67246 > > @news20.bellglobal.com: > > > > > >>Thanks for stepping in, Spud. > > > > > > Total brain fade on my part. Too much time with the NASCAR sims, when > > qualifying laps are counted separate from the out-lap. I ended up > > crossing the finish line one too many times and I assume was DQ'd as > > a result. Damn! Had a not bad starting position (as far as I could > > tell at the time). > > > > In my frustration, I hit the "Quit" icon and then compounded the > > error by saying "yes" to the prompt. Too late to even stick around > > and watch (or to verify that I was being DQ'd). When things go wrong, > > things _really_ go wrong. I am _not_ going to try buying lottery > > tickets today. <g> > >

Mitch_A wrote in news:K3VQb.15707$[email hidden]:

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> Thanks Spud for hosting. One of these days Ill figure this sim > out. Finally got tires and they wouldnt give me any gas :) I was > going for a 2 stop race and after I came in on L10 I was outta > gas. Didnt even notice I wasnt getting any till I was back on > track. Oh well this turned into a good practice. > > You were right about tire pressure. A couple small adj really > helps me save my RF. > > Mitch >

Just to satisfy my curiosity: did you raise or lower the tire pressure to get better tire wear? I had to run laps in the 1:39-1:40 range to keep my RF tire from staying bright yellow. I could go faster, but not if I wanted to do more than one or two laps. Mitch, did you have the fuel setup in your strategy "page" of the setup screens? If you only have the fuel set for a one-stopper, you will get new tires when you come in, but no new fuel. I guessed at a two stopper with 25 litres to start and at the first stop, and 30 litres at the second (last) stop just to give me a slight margin of error on fuel. -- Darryl

I raised the RF to 190 from 188. Next time Im goin to 189. I had a orange zebra stripe right down the middle of the tire flanked by red edges. Yea I set the stategy for 2 stops at lap 10 and 20 and also used 25 litres. I normally keep my LCD on the tires temp page, should I switch to fuel page and adjust something? Mitch "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:UaVQb.649$[email hidden]...

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> Just to satisfy my curiosity: did you raise or lower the tire > pressure to get better tire wear? I had to run laps in the 1:39-1:40 > range to keep my RF tire from staying bright yellow. I could go > faster, but not if I wanted to do more than one or two laps. > > Mitch, did you have the fuel setup in your strategy "page" of the > setup screens? If you only have the fuel set for a one-stopper, you > will get new tires when you come in, but no new fuel. I guessed at a > two stopper with 25 litres to start and at the first stop, and 30 > litres at the second (last) stop just to give me a slight margin of > error on fuel. > > -- > Darryl

Mitch_A wrote in news:k7%Qb.15856$[email hidden]:

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> I raised the RF to 190 from 188. Next time Im goin to 189. I had > a orange zebra stripe right down the middle of the tire flanked by > red edges. > > Yea I set the stategy for 2 stops at lap 10 and 20 and also used > 25 litres. I normally keep my LCD on the tires temp page, should I > switch to fuel page and adjust something? > > Mitch >

I dunno. Sorry. I don't bother with the LCD screen in these cars -- too hard to see them, in my opinion. Others with sharper eyesight may have no problem reading them. But I've never had to do anything other than drive into my pit. I'll have to experiement -- unless someone else knows the answer. -- Darryl

Darryl Johnson > But I've never had to do anything other than drive into my pit. I'll > have to experiement -- unless someone else knows the answer. > Even if you are only planning 1 stop, go ahead and set up your pit strategy for 3 stops. Next in practice, watch your fuel usage. I try and get a quick estimate for how many tenths of a gallon are used per lap. Finally if you do think you are going to run short, you can use the lcd fuel screen to adjust. I have 4 buttons mapped on my wheel, one to change the lcd screen, one to scroll down each page and two to increase or decrease. Your right about those tiny lcd screens. I always like the mods that find a way to bring them closer. Like using an electronics box. Double finally, there is a line in your plr file that allows you to 'get a push' from your pit crew if you run out of gas. Pitcrew Push="1" // When out of fuel in pitlane, allows pitcrew to push car (use throttle and gear selection to direct) dh

In article <9d8Rb.1536$[email hidden]>, Darryl Johnson <[email hidden]> writes: >I dunno. Sorry. I don't bother with the LCD screen in these cars -- >too hard to see them, in my opinion. Others with sharper eyesight may >have no problem reading them. No, I think that's a stupid effing 'feature'. How *anyone* can read that little light colored LCD display while trying to stay on the track and avoid getting punted by brain-dead AI is beyond me... If *that's* the best they could do, I'd rather have a HUD display for the important info... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 ChallengeRank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Y'know, the fates are conspiring against me. I tried to download the ETCC mod again on my server. It kept getting to 99%, and staying there. I tried 3 times, even leaving it at 99% for about an hour - no dice. I think I got the full file at home(182MB file), but now I have to find a way to get it to work. I have a USB keychain(256MB I think), but it doesn't work on my main win98 box. So, I guess I'll have to transfer it over my home network to another desktop or my laptop, then copy to the USB from there, then take it into work to copy to my server... Can't I buy *one* effing break somehow? *sigh* Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 ChallengeRank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>I have a USB keychain(256MB I think), but it doesn't work >on my main win98 box. So, I guess I'll have to transfer it over my home >network to another desktop or my laptop, then copy to the USB from there, >then >take it into work to copy to my server... Nope, the USB was only 120 MB, so I'll have to copy it to my laptop, and just bring the laptop to work tomorrow. Geez, If I actually believed in God, I'd say he was out to get me... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 ChallengeRank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>>I have a USB keychain(256MB I think), but it doesn't work >>on my main win98 box. So, I guess I'll have to transfer it over >>my home network to another desktop or my laptop, then copy to the >>USB from there, then >>take it into work to copy to my server... > > Nope, the USB was only 120 MB, so I'll have to copy it to my > laptop, and just bring the laptop to work tomorrow. > Geez, If I actually believed in God, I'd say he was out to get > me... > > Eldred

Wasn't that the premise behind the movie "Bruce Almighty"? If you find yourself able to walk on water some day, let me know. I've got a few things I'd like to sort out with the way the world works. <VBG> -- Darryl

>Wasn't that the premise behind the movie "Bruce Almighty"? Never saw it... >If you find yourself able to walk on water some day, let me know. >I've got a few things I'd like to sort out with the way the world >works. <VBG> Hehe...I'd be happy just to be able to fix my own little corner of the world. I don't need world domination, although I wouldn't complain if it was handed to me... :-) Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 ChallengeRank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Is Eldred and Simmons just alter ego's of the same person <g> "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > Hehe...I'd be happy just to be able to fix my own little corner of the world. > I don't need world domination, although I wouldn't complain if it washanded to

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> > Hehe...I'd be happy just to be able to fix my own little corner of theworld. > > I don't need world domination, although I wouldn't complain if it washanded to > > me... :-) > Is Eldred and Simmons just alter ego's of the same person <g> Oi! Leave Eldred alone! Simmo can look after himself (well apart from suicidal tendancies with a saw...) but give Eldred some stick and the full force of RAS will be unleashed upon you <G> --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 13/01/2004

Bah, too much responsibility. ;o) "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > I don't need world domination, although I wouldn't complain if it washanded to

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In article <6XTRb.17159$[email hidden]>, "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> writes: >Is Eldred and Simmons just alter ego's of the same person <g> Aw, that HURTS, Mitch...:-) Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 ChallengeRank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>Bah, too much responsibility. ;o) > > >"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> >> I don't need world domination, although I wouldn't complain if it was >handed to >> me... :-)

That's why I said I didn't *need* it. If it was handed to me I could always delegate the part(s) I didn't want...<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 ChallengeRank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.