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The Cars of Gran Turismo...NOT!

7 posts by 4 people · 23 Jan 2004 20:30 UTC - 25 Jan 2004 13:33 UTC

Steve Smith 23 Jan 2004 20:30 UTC#44646
Don't bother. There's a new book out by the widely unknown Canadian author Huw Evans called "The Cars of Gran Turismo," a 96-page paperback available from the publisher, Motorbooks International for $14.95 (or from Amazon for a couple of bucks less) that purports to be about the cars featured in Sony's hugely popular PlayStation game. (Over 15 million copies sold...up to the by-now-2-year-old "GT3: A-Spec," that is, not about the upcoming "GT4," which will reportedly include 500 licensed cars!) In it, the good Huw thanks everybody from his mother to his dry cleaner's tax attorney...but not Kaz Yamauchi, the genius behind the half-arcade/half-sim series (and a god in Japan, where his company now sells RW add-ons like hood scoops and fancy rims for the "Drift" crowd). Indeed, there is nothing about the game in the book. Not one screen shot, not one car, not one track. Only the RW cars that "inspired" the cars in Gran Turismo (like the ever-popular Yaris T-Sport, the Mazda Eunos, and the Spoon 2000...named after the curve at Suzuka, perhaps?). There are some specs and driving impressions, but nothing that might link the RW cars to the game. We are left to wonder what might have been.... Nice price; shame about the content.
You just said the book " purports to be about the cars featured in Sony's hugely popular PlayStation game.", but your complaining that the book only has information about cars and not the game itself? Maybe I read your message wrong... But, the book being about cars and not a video game is exactly what I'd expect. I'm just guessin' on this too, but the "Spoon 2000" might be named after the company, Spoon (which I think builds aftermarket engines) instead of a corner at Suzuka. Were you expecting the book to describe how the cars in the game handle? Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:EvfQb.36679$[email hidden]... > Don't bother. There's a new book out by the widely unknown Canadianauthor > Huw Evans called "The Cars of Gran Turismo," a 96-page paperback available > from the publisher, Motorbooks International for $14.95 (or from Amazonfor > a couple of bucks less) that purports to be about the cars featured in > Sony's hugely popular PlayStation game. (Over 15 million copies sold...up > to the by-now-2-year-old "GT3: A-Spec," that is, not about the upcoming > "GT4," which will reportedly include 500 licensed cars!) In it, the good > Huw thanks everybody from his mother to his dry cleaner's taxattorney...but
Quoted text (7 lines)> not Kaz Yamauchi, the genius behind the half-arcade/half-sim series (and a > god in Japan, where his company now sells RW add-ons like hood scoops and > fancy rims for the "Drift" crowd). > > Indeed, there is nothing about the game in the book. Not one screen shot, > not one car, not one track. Only the RW cars that "inspired" the cars in > Gran Turismo (like the ever-popular Yaris T-Sport, the Mazda Eunos, and
the
Quoted text (7 lines)> Spoon 2000...named after the curve at Suzuka, perhaps?). There are some > specs and driving impressions, but nothing that might link the RW cars to > the game. We are left to wonder what might have been.... > > Nice price; shame about the content. > >
No, I was expecting a connecting thread, just as when I wrote the strategy guide for GPL, I didn't just describe what was inside the game, I tried to bridge the gap between the RW and the sim world. That, immodestly, is why I think "Four-Wheel Drift" worked...and why Huw's book doesn't. Otherwise, it's just a badly thought-out book about a random collection of cars, most of which aren't available in this side of the Rim and thus are of little interest to American readers. Anybody that would would call the butt-ugly Mazda Cosmo "beautiful" isn't playing with a full aesthetic deck. It's gushing "fan lit," nothing more. What makes you think Spoon (a Mazda tuner) *isn't* named after the corner at Suzuka? "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > You just said the book " purports to be about the cars featured in > Sony's hugely popular PlayStation game.", but your complaining that thebook > only has information about cars and not the game itself? Maybe I readyour > message wrong... But, the book being about cars and not a video game is > exactly what I'd expect. > > I'm just guessin' on this too, but the "Spoon 2000" might be named afterthe
Quoted text (13 lines)> company, Spoon (which I think builds aftermarket engines) instead of a > corner at Suzuka. > > Were you expecting the book to describe how the cars in the game handle? > > Mike > http://mikebeauchamp.com > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:EvfQb.36679$[email hidden]... > > Don't bother. There's a new book out by the widely unknown Canadian > author > > Huw Evans called "The Cars of Gran Turismo," a 96-page paperback
available > > from the publisher, Motorbooks International for $14.95 (or from Amazon > for > > a couple of bucks less) that purports to be about the cars featured in > > Sony's hugely popular PlayStation game. (Over 15 million copiessold...up > > to the by-now-2-year-old "GT3: A-Spec," that is, not about the upcoming > > "GT4," which will reportedly include 500 licensed cars!) In it, thegood > > Huw thanks everybody from his mother to his dry cleaner's tax > attorney...but > > not Kaz Yamauchi, the genius behind the half-arcade/half-sim series (anda > > god in Japan, where his company now sells RW add-ons like hood scoopsand > > fancy rims for the "Drift" crowd). > > > > Indeed, there is nothing about the game in the book. Not one screenshot, > > not one car, not one track. Only the RW cars that "inspired" the carsin > > Gran Turismo (like the ever-popular Yaris T-Sport, the Mazda Eunos, and > the > > Spoon 2000...named after the curve at Suzuka, perhaps?). There are some > > specs and driving impressions, but nothing that might link the RW carsto
Quoted text (7 lines)> > the game. We are left to wonder what might have been.... > > > > Nice price; shame about the content. > > > > > >
Steve Smith wrote: > Otherwise, it's just a badly thought-out book about a random collection of > cars, most of which aren't available in this side of the Rim and thus are of > little interest to American readers. I think this is exactly why this book is of interest to American readers. Rice boys drool over the cars of Japan which has contributed to the success of the GT series. Reading about cars I can't own is the reason I buy the UK mag CAR. > What makes you think Spoon (a Mazda tuner) *isn't* named after the corner at > Suzuka? Isn't Spoon a Honda tuner? Thus the Spoon S2000.
Perhaps he didn't have any legal right, or license agreement to include information about the game, and thus apparently omitted all references except the book title of course? Just a guess...But if Sony or Kaz Yamauchi wanted a big fee for those things, perhaps this guy weaseled out and thus only showed pictures and descriptions of real-world cars? "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HNuQb.42164$[email hidden]... > No, I was expecting a connecting thread, just as when I wrote the strategy > guide for GPL, I didn't just describe what was inside the game, I tried to > bridge the gap between the RW and the sim world. That, immodestly, is whyI > think "Four-Wheel Drift" worked...and why Huw's book doesn't. > > Otherwise, it's just a badly thought-out book about a random collection of > cars, most of which aren't available in this side of the Rim and thus areof > little interest to American readers. Anybody that would would call the > butt-ugly Mazda Cosmo "beautiful" isn't playing with a full aestheticdeck. > It's gushing "fan lit," nothing more. > > What makes you think Spoon (a Mazda tuner) *isn't* named after the cornerat
Quoted text (29 lines)> Suzuka? > > "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > You just said the book " purports to be about the cars featured in > > Sony's hugely popular PlayStation game.", but your complaining that the > book > > only has information about cars and not the game itself? Maybe I read > your > > message wrong... But, the book being about cars and not a video game is > > exactly what I'd expect. > > > > I'm just guessin' on this too, but the "Spoon 2000" might be named after > the > > company, Spoon (which I think builds aftermarket engines) instead of a > > corner at Suzuka. > > > > Were you expecting the book to describe how the cars in the game handle? > > > > Mike > > http://mikebeauchamp.com > > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:EvfQb.36679$[email hidden]... > > > Don't bother. There's a new book out by the widely unknown Canadian > > author > > > Huw Evans called "The Cars of Gran Turismo," a 96-page paperback > available > > > from the publisher, Motorbooks International for $14.95 (or from
Amazon > > for > > > a couple of bucks less) that purports to be about the cars featured in > > > Sony's hugely popular PlayStation game. (Over 15 million copies > sold...up > > > to the by-now-2-year-old "GT3: A-Spec," that is, not about theupcoming > > > "GT4," which will reportedly include 500 licensed cars!) In it, the > good > > > Huw thanks everybody from his mother to his dry cleaner's tax > > attorney...but > > > not Kaz Yamauchi, the genius behind the half-arcade/half-sim series(and
Quoted text (10 lines)> a > > > god in Japan, where his company now sells RW add-ons like hood scoops > and > > > fancy rims for the "Drift" crowd). > > > > > > Indeed, there is nothing about the game in the book. Not one screen > shot, > > > not one car, not one track. Only the RW cars that "inspired" the cars > in > > > Gran Turismo (like the ever-popular Yaris T-Sport, the Mazda Eunos,
and > > the > > > Spoon 2000...named after the curve at Suzuka, perhaps?). There aresome
Quoted text (11 lines)> > > specs and driving impressions, but nothing that might link the RW cars > to > > > the game. We are left to wonder what might have been.... > > > > > > Nice price; shame about the content. > > > > > > > > > > > >
Sorry, yer right. Honda tuner, indeed. "Internet User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Steve Smith wrote: > > > Otherwise, it's just a badly thought-out book about a random collectionof > > cars, most of which aren't available in this side of the Rim and thusare of
Quoted text (8 lines)> > little interest to American readers. > > I think this is exactly why this book is of interest to American > readers. Rice boys drool over the cars of Japan which has contributed > to the success of the GT series. Reading about cars I can't own is the > reason I buy the UK mag CAR. > > > What makes you think Spoon (a Mazda tuner) *isn't* named after the
corner at > > Suzuka? > > Isn't Spoon a Honda tuner? Thus the Spoon S2000.
You can write a book about almost anything without paying any licensing fees or obtaining permission (so long as you're not libelous). Likewise, you can paint a picture (altho not neccessarily print a photograph) of objects protected by intellectual property laws. It's only things like games and model cars for which you need special dispensation. Huw's stated purpose in the book is to "give both gamers and enthusiasts an insight into this popular and colorful game." In this mission, he has utterly failed, IMO. "Jay J" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NgvQb.113424$nt4.439134@attbi_s51...
Quoted text (13 lines)> Perhaps he didn't have any legal right, or license agreement to include > information about the game, and thus apparently omitted all references > except the book title of course? > > Just a guess...But if Sony or Kaz Yamauchi wanted a big fee for those > things, perhaps this guy weaseled out and thus only showed pictures and > descriptions of real-world cars? > > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:HNuQb.42164$[email hidden]... > > No, I was expecting a connecting thread, just as when I wrote the
strategy > > guide for GPL, I didn't just describe what was inside the game, I triedto > > bridge the gap between the RW and the sim world. That, immodestly, iswhy > I > > think "Four-Wheel Drift" worked...and why Huw's book doesn't. > > > > Otherwise, it's just a badly thought-out book about a random collectionof > > cars, most of which aren't available in this side of the Rim and thusare
Quoted text (7 lines)> of > > little interest to American readers. Anybody that would would call the > > butt-ugly Mazda Cosmo "beautiful" isn't playing with a full aesthetic > deck. > > It's gushing "fan lit," nothing more. > > > > What makes you think Spoon (a Mazda tuner) *isn't* named after the
corner
Quoted text (7 lines)> at > > Suzuka? > > > > "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > You just said the book " purports to be about the cars featured in > > > Sony's hugely popular PlayStation game.", but your complaining that
the > > book > > > only has information about cars and not the game itself? Maybe I read > > your > > > message wrong... But, the book being about cars and not a video gameis > > > exactly what I'd expect. > > > > > > I'm just guessin' on this too, but the "Spoon 2000" might be namedafter > > the > > > company, Spoon (which I think builds aftermarket engines) instead of a > > > corner at Suzuka. > > > > > > Were you expecting the book to describe how the cars in the gamehandle?
Quoted text (14 lines)> > > > > > Mike > > > http://mikebeauchamp.com > > > > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:EvfQb.36679$[email hidden]... > > > > Don't bother. There's a new book out by the widely unknown Canadian > > > author > > > > Huw Evans called "The Cars of Gran Turismo," a 96-page paperback > > available > > > > from the publisher, Motorbooks International for $14.95 (or from > Amazon > > > for > > > > a couple of bucks less) that purports to be about the cars featured
in
Quoted text (12 lines)> > > > Sony's hugely popular PlayStation game. (Over 15 million copies > > sold...up > > > > to the by-now-2-year-old "GT3: A-Spec," that is, not about the > upcoming > > > > "GT4," which will reportedly include 500 licensed cars!) In it, the > > good > > > > Huw thanks everybody from his mother to his dry cleaner's tax > > > attorney...but > > > > not Kaz Yamauchi, the genius behind the half-arcade/half-sim series > (and > > a > > > > god in Japan, where his company now sells RW add-ons like hood
scoops > > and > > > > fancy rims for the "Drift" crowd). > > > > > > > > Indeed, there is nothing about the game in the book. Not one screen > > shot, > > > > not one car, not one track. Only the RW cars that "inspired" thecars
Quoted text (7 lines)> > in > > > > Gran Turismo (like the ever-popular Yaris T-Sport, the Mazda Eunos, > and > > > the > > > > Spoon 2000...named after the curve at Suzuka, perhaps?). There are > some > > > > specs and driving impressions, but nothing that might link the RW
cars
Quoted text (12 lines)> > to > > > > the game. We are left to wonder what might have been.... > > > > > > > > Nice price; shame about the content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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