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FF Wheels

12 posts by 9 people · 19 Jan 1999 - 12 Feb 1999

Mark Smi 19 Jan 1999#446220
So what is the best FF Wheel on the market right now. I looked at several at Best Buy the other day. I liked the feel of the Logitec (the one with the red wheel) and I liked the V4 from Interact with tons of buttons and a 8-way d-pad I've heard the Thrustmaster sucks and the Sidewinder is good (but expensive). Then I just got done reading a 5-star review on the new Race Leader 3D Force Feedback which is still in preorder status. So what is everyone using and what do you like/dislike about it. I want to get a FF wheel soon for games like Powerslide Viper NFS3 (and the new 4) GPL Thanks for any feedback.
I use a Logitech, and I love it. You can get more info on FF wheels at the "discussion" at http://www.force-1.com/ -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Remove "spam-jammer" to reply Peace, love and Monkeemobiles, Galley >So what is the best FF Wheel on the market right now. >I looked at several at Best Buy the other day. >I liked the feel of the Logitec (the one with the red wheel) >and I liked the V4 from Interact with tons of buttons and a 8-way d-pad >I've heard the Thrustmaster sucks and the Sidewinder is good (but expensive). >Then I just got done reading a 5-star review on the new Race Leader 3D Force >Feedback which is still in preorder status. >So what is everyone using and what do you like/dislike about it. I want to get >a FF wheel soon for games like >Powerslide >Viper >NFS3 (and the new 4) >GPL >Thanks for any feedback.
I'm using the Saitek R4 FF wheel. This uses the MS Sidewinder FF wheel's mechanics but it also has a seperate gear stick. I really like it. I preferred the feel of the wheel to the MS one. My only problem is that I can only get self-centering OR FF effects to work in Colin Mcrae Rally but I've heard that other FF wheel users have had problems with CMR as well so I don't think that it is a Saitek problem. All other sims that I've tried, which support FF, seem to work fine.
Quoted text (21 lines)> So what is the best FF Wheel on the market right now. > I looked at several at Best Buy the other day. > I liked the feel of the Logitec (the one with the red wheel) > and I liked the V4 from Interact with tons of buttons and a 8-way d-pad > I've heard the Thrustmaster sucks and the Sidewinder is good (but expensive). > Then I just got done reading a 5-star review on the new Race Leader 3D Force > Feedback which is still in preorder status. > So what is everyone using and what do you like/dislike about it. I want to get > a FF wheel soon for games like > Powerslide > Viper > NFS3 (and the new 4) > GPL > Thanks for any feedback.
Jack 20 Jan 1999#446356
I could be wrong, but I think the Saitek wheel uses Microsoft's Force Feedback software technology ( a programming standard that anyone is free to adopt). As I recall, their packaging, amusingly, promotes this fact. Their hardware (the "wheel's mechanics") is completely different from the Sidewinder.
Y.Minami 20 Jan 1999#446357
I have and tried MS FFW only, but it is really good wheel. It has the most accurate and durable handling wheel, and most comfortable to tread peddal unit. Force Feedback will give you whole new presure, like first time to use 3D hardware accelerator.
I got the Logitech FF wheel a couple weeks ago. This wheel is simply amazing. It really feels like you are driving a race car. I play N2 a lot, and NFSIII, The feel is so much better then the MS FF joystick I been using. NFSIII is especially good for the force feed back. My lap times also are much better on N2, and I don't wreck as much. I bought it at Best Buy for $180.00 on 12/31, but now there selling it for $150.00, but I got a credit for the thirty bucks. Now i'm going to try out Viper Racing. One game I do worse at though is Powerslide. I can hardly get around the track with the Wheel., but on the joystick I kick ass. Oh well its a arcade game anyway. One more thing. Its both USB and serial. If you computer supports USB its the best thing since the thong bikini. Just plug it in and play. Mike
You may well be right. This was the impression that I got from what I'd read and from what Saitek had said but I'm happy to stand corrected. > I could be wrong, but I think the Saitek wheel uses Microsoft's Force > Feedback software technology ( a programming standard that anyone is free to > adopt). As I recall, their packaging, amusingly, promotes this fact. Their > hardware (the "wheel's mechanics") is completely different from the > Sidewinder.
Greg Cisko 21 Jan 1999#446481
> I got the Logitech FF wheel a couple weeks ago. This wheel is simply >amazing. It really feels like you are driving a race car. I play N2 a lot, >and NFSIII, The feel is so much better then the MS FF joystick I been using. >NFSIII is especially good for the force feed back. My lap times also are >much better on N2, and I don't wreck as much. You were able to get a proper calibration in Nascar Racing 2 (a DOS game) with the Logitech stick? I guess I am sort of surprised at this. But you get no jittering in the joystick calibration screen? No jittering/spiking or drifting while driving? It is common knowledge that Nascar Racing 2 does not like digital gameports or digital (including Windows ONLY) sticks. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com
I could be wrong too, but I read in a German magazine that Saitek also uses Microsoft hardware. Of course its software interface is fully compatible to Microsoft's, too. Additionally, on the wheel there's a logo that says "Powered by Microsoft Force Feedback technology" - if the hardware wasn't from Microsoft, then why should it be printed _on the wheel_? And it really feels exactly like the MS FF...just guessin'... Daniel -- Daniel Lichtenberger, Vienna/Austria
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:29:50 +0000, Graham Goodwin >I really like it. I preferred the feel of the wheel to the MS one. My only >problem is that I can only get self-centering OR FF effects to work in Colin Mcrae >Rally but I've heard that other FF wheel users have had problems with CMR as well >so I don't think that it is a Saitek problem. Strange, because I get nice FF effects with the CMR demo on my Saitek R4 FF... Daniel -- Daniel Lichtenberger, Vienna/Austria
Larry 12 Feb 1999#449844
We should create a site for storing these magical calibration files :) -Larry > You were able to get a proper calibration in Nascar Racing 2 (a DOS game) > with the Logitech stick? I guess I am sort of surprised at this. But you get > no jittering in the joystick calibration screen? No jittering/spiking or > drifting > while driving? It is common knowledge that Nascar Racing 2 does not like > digital gameports or digital (including Windows ONLY) sticks.
Larry 12 Feb 1999#449845
LIke the wheel. Could never, ever live with the pedals :( -Larry > I use a Logitech, and I love it.

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