F1RS and Riva TNT

Hi Sorry if this is a repost..... I just installed a STB Velocity 4400 (Riva TNT, AGP) card in my PII 266 (Micronics 440LX MB, and 64 meg of SDRAM) and when I went to fire up F1RS, which I had already been on my machine, I got an error that it could not run this version of the game! I've also experienced problems with very poor frame rates with GPL (like less than one!) even though I have the OpenGL patch in place, (I know it's working or the helmet color would be white, like in software mode, rather than gold as I selected). Someone suggested installing the OpenGL drivers that came with the card, rather than using the opengl32.dll that comes with windows.... I suspect that this may already have been done, as I upgraded my STB drivers to the latest one ver 1.52 as well (shouldn't this have also installed any OpenGL driver/dll automatically?) If any other Riva TNT users (especially STB Velocity 4400) have experienced *** problems with F1RS, GPL or any other game and have overcome them, I would be ever so grateful for any help/tips/advice you could give! Thank you Jay J

I tried to get my Viper550 (TNT) to work with MGPRS2 (F1RS2), and GPL (with the OpenGL beta patch). I couldn't get the MGPRS2 to work (I think if you use the TNT drivers from Nvida, I think it might work). I was very unimpressed with the OpenGL patch. You know all this already, what I did, I just put my Voodoo2 back in my computer. So my advice to you is to get a Voodoo2.

I occasionally use the CL TNT with the reference drivers and it works, with the 1.09d patch. -- Erik Pohjola Software Technical Support Ubi Soft Entertainment North America 1-800-UBI-SOFT * * * * * * * >>If any other Riva TNT users (especially STB Velocity 4400) have experienced >>*** problems with F1RS, GPL or any other game and have overcome them, I >>would be ever so grateful for any help/tips/advice you could give! >I tried to get my Viper550 (TNT) to work with MGPRS2 (F1RS2), and GPL (with >the OpenGL beta patch). I couldn't get the MGPRS2 to work (I think if you >use the TNT drivers from Nvida, I think it might work). I was very >unimpressed with the OpenGL patch. >You know all this already, what I did, I just put my Voodoo2 back in my >computer. So my advice to you is to get a Voodoo2.

Erik, I have the 1.09 D3D patch installed, is that the same as the 1.09d ??? I'll try reinstalling it tonight, and if that doesn't work will try Nvida's reference drivers, if all fails, i'll shoot you an email and we can go from there... Thanks Jay J

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>I occasionally use the CL TNT with the reference drivers and it works, with >the 1.09d patch. >-- >Erik Pohjola >Software Technical Support >Ubi Soft Entertainment >North America >1-800-UBI-SOFT >* * * * * * * >>>If any other Riva TNT users (especially STB Velocity 4400) have >experienced >>>*** problems with F1RS, GPL or any other game and have overcome them,

I >>>would be ever so grateful for any help/tips/advice you could give! >>I tried to get my Viper550 (TNT) to work with MGPRS2 (F1RS2), and GPL (with >>the OpenGL beta patch). I couldn't get the MGPRS2 to work (I think if you >>use the TNT drivers from Nvida, I think it might work). I was very >>unimpressed with the OpenGL patch. >>You know all this already, what I did, I just put my Voodoo2 back in my >>computer. So my advice to you is to get a Voodoo2.

get a 3dfx card... -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com >Hi Sorry if this is a repost..... >I just installed a STB Velocity 4400 (Riva TNT, AGP) card in my PII 266 >(Micronics 440LX MB, and 64 meg of SDRAM) and when I went to fire up F1RS, >which I had already been on my machine, I got an error that it could not run >this version of the game! >I've also experienced problems with very poor frame rates with GPL (like >less than one!) even though I have the OpenGL patch in place, (I know it's >working or the helmet color would be white, like in software mode, rather >than gold as I selected). >Someone suggested installing the OpenGL drivers that came with the card, >rather than using the opengl32.dll that comes with windows.... >I suspect that this may already have been done, as I upgraded my STB drivers >to the latest one ver 1.52 as well (shouldn't this have also installed any >OpenGL driver/dll automatically?) >If any other Riva TNT users (especially STB Velocity 4400) have experienced >*** problems with F1RS, GPL or any other game and have overcome them, I >would be ever so grateful for any help/tips/advice you could give! >Thank you >Jay J

That would be a downgrade. TF

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> get a 3dfx card... > -- > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com > >Hi Sorry if this is a repost..... > >I just installed a STB Velocity 4400 (Riva TNT, AGP) card in my PII 266 > >(Micronics 440LX MB, and 64 meg of SDRAM) and when I went to fire up F1RS, > >which I had already been on my machine, I got an error that it could not > run > >this version of the game! > >I've also experienced problems with very poor frame rates with GPL (like > >less than one!) even though I have the OpenGL patch in place, (I know it's > >working or the helmet color would be white, like in software mode, rather > >than gold as I selected). > >Someone suggested installing the OpenGL drivers that came with the card, > >rather than using the opengl32.dll that comes with windows.... > >I suspect that this may already have been done, as I upgraded my STB > drivers > >to the latest one ver 1.52 as well (shouldn't this have also installed any > >OpenGL driver/dll automatically?) > >If any other Riva TNT users (especially STB Velocity 4400) have experienced > >*** problems with F1RS, GPL or any other game and have overcome them, I > >would be ever so grateful for any help/tips/advice you could give! > >Thank you > >Jay J

>That would be a downgrade. A downgrade for F1RS? I guess you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Plus you *ADD* it to your system not replace the TNT. I have both cards... I also know what I'm talking about. Dork. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com >TF >> get a 3dfx card... >> -- >> Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. >> cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com >> >Hi Sorry if this is a repost..... >> >I just installed a STB Velocity 4400 (Riva TNT, AGP) card in my PII 266 >> >(Micronics 440LX MB, and 64 meg of SDRAM) and when I went to fire up F1RS, >> >which I had already been on my machine, I got an error that it could not >> run >> >this version of the game! >> >I've also experienced problems with very poor frame rates with GPL (like >> >less than one!) even though I have the OpenGL patch in place, (I know it's >> >working or the helmet color would be white, like in software mode, rather >> >than gold as I selected). >> >Someone suggested installing the OpenGL drivers that came with the card, >> >rather than using the opengl32.dll that comes with windows.... >> >I suspect that this may already have been done, as I upgraded my STB >> drivers >> >to the latest one ver 1.52 as well (shouldn't this have also installed any >> >OpenGL driver/dll automatically?) >> >If any other Riva TNT users (especially STB Velocity 4400) have experienced >> >*** problems with F1RS, GPL or any other game and have overcome them, I >> >would be ever so grateful for any help/tips/advice you could give! >> >Thank you >> >Jay J

geez . . . lighten up, for cryin' out loud--hasn't there been enough of this lately??

Not for F1RS or any other native Glide application. Daniel -- Daniel Lichtenberger, Vienna/Austria

>geez . . . lighten up, for cryin' out loud--hasn't there been enough of this >lately?? Nope. Not when someone makes a foolish statement like 3dfx is a downgrade for F1RS. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

You should ask around and make sure that this game supports tnt cards. Also, go to the ubisoft site and see if there is a upgrade or patch for the game. You may have to reinstall the game since you have a new video card. This should be a last resort. Cartbrian

Well, sorry this is a late response, but I've been away.... After reinstalling and adding the D3D patch (1.09) it works like a charm! And holy shit!!!! The quality of graphics and frames per second are OUTSTANDING!!!! It's like starting all over again :-) Thank's Jay J PS: As for getting a 3dfx card..... I went Riva due to AGP 2x, image quality, RAM (16 megs vs 12 for voodoo II) and I can still add a 3dfx (or two) in the future, hopefully when Voodoo III comes out and Voodoo II prices drop! I wasn't about to buy a voodoo II, then find out 2 or 3 months from now, that if I would have waited, I could have saved a ton of $$$$.....

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> >geez . . . lighten up, for cryin' out loud--hasn't there been enough of > this > >lately?? > Nope. Not when someone makes a foolish statement like 3dfx is a > downgrade for F1RS. > --

This was obviously an emotional topic for Mr. Greg here. -- Torgeir Foss Oslo, Norway

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> > >geez . . . lighten up, for cryin' out loud--hasn't there been enough of > > this > > >lately?? > > Nope. Not when someone makes a foolish statement like 3dfx is a > > downgrade for F1RS. > > -- > This was obviously an emotional topic for Mr. Greg here.

Well, silly posts like yours deserve an emotional response... OTOH, Greg is ALWAYS cranky... ;^) l8er ronny -- Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

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> > > >geez . . . lighten up, for cryin' out loud--hasn't there been enough of > > > this > > > >lately?? > > > Nope. Not when someone makes a foolish statement like 3dfx is a > > > downgrade for F1RS. > > > -- > > This was obviously an emotional topic for Mr. Greg here. > Well, silly posts like yours deserve an emotional response...

Why was it stupid? Because I think that buying a specific 3D card because of ONE game is quite pointless, especially regarding F1RS which probably isn't a game that will be played much in a few months ? People have different opinions. Respect it. -- Torgeir Foss Oslo, Norway

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> > > > >geez . . . lighten up, for cryin' out loud--hasn't there been enough of > > > > this > > > > >lately?? > > > > Nope. Not when someone makes a foolish statement like 3dfx is a > > > > downgrade for F1RS. > > > > -- > > > This was obviously an emotional topic for Mr. Greg here. > > Well, silly posts like yours deserve an emotional response... > Why was it stupid? Because I think that buying a specific 3D card because of ONE > game is quite pointless, especially regarding F1RS which probably isn't a game > that will be played much in a few months ? People have different opinions. > Respect it.

You mean, buying a 3Dfx card would only be worthwile for F1RS?? Or do you ONLY play F1RS and don't want to buy a 3D card just for that one game? l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

You have to remeber that he already have a TNT which in most cases is at least as fast as a (single) Voodoo2 and supports higher res. So if F1RS is the only game that doesn't work then thats not a very good reason to but another 3D card. Enough of this. Have a nice day. -- Torgeir Foss Oslo, Norway

You have to remeber that he already have a TNT which in most cases is at least as fast as a (single) Voodoo2 and supports higher res. So if F1RS is the only game that doesn't work then thats not a very good reason to buy another 3D card. Enough of this. Have a nice day. -- Torgeir Foss Oslo, Norway

snip > You have to remeber that he already have a TNT which in most cases is at least as fast > as a (single) Voodoo2 and supports higher res. So if F1RS is the only game that > doesn't work then thats not a very good reason to buy another 3D card. Sorry, but up to now and for quite some time, the addition of a 3Dfx card will increase the number of supported 3D games dramatically. There a quite a big number of games for which you better have one supporting Glide... Oh please, don't tell me when to end the thread, thank you! l8er ronny -- Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

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>snip >> You have to remeber that he already have a TNT which in most cases is at > least as fast >> as a (single) Voodoo2 and supports higher res. So if F1RS is the only game > that >> doesn't work then thats not a very good reason to buy another 3D card. >Sorry, but up to now and for quite some time, the addition of a 3Dfx >card will >increase the number of supported 3D games dramatically. There a quite a >big number >of games for which you better have one supporting Glide...

F1RS with 1.09 patch shoudl work with TNT, i recall? In any case, it works fine with MGPRS2. Z.