Anybody have this wheel yet?
Looking for a quick THUMBS UP or DOWN or should I be the guinia pig?
I've read about this one too, but have yet to see it hit the market.
On a side note, Logitech just released a FF wheel, costs around $180.
Can anyone give any feedback on the quality of it? The review in PC Gamer
made it sound like it was superior to the previous FF wheel's that have hit
the market lately, including Microsoft's!
>Anybody have this wheel yet?
>Looking for a quick THUMBS UP or DOWN or should I be the guinia pig?
Getting mine tomorrow :) I returned my MS sidewinder wheel today to get it.
I'll let the group know if I have any problems.
>I just bought the wheel myself. Looks great, doesn't work. After 3 calls to
>TM Customer
>Support asking why the wheel will not work
>(calibrate) with NR1999, ICR2 REND, N2,
>TM's reply was that my 100 Pentium was not
>fast enough to run the wheel and permit the game to calibrate/setup the wheel.
>I know the box says 133Mhz "recommended". Apparently "recommended" means
>"minimum"
>in computer-speak. Not sure what I am going to do here. Anybody else run
>into this problem? TM appeared slightly clueless until the third call to them.
> I am not sure whether to totally believe that it won't calibrate/setup. I
>have recently read also that Papy games are
>not FF compliant. Still I feel the wheel should work as non-FF? If anybody
>has feedback, please feel free to e-mail me.
>Thank You Very Much!
You're kidding me!!! This was the only driving sim I was playing with the MS
wheel. I returned it because something just did not feel right about that
wheel. Oh well, I was getting frustrated with GPL, I need some time away
from it :)
>>Getting mine tomorrow :) I returned my MS sidewinder wheel today to get
>it.
>>I'll let the group know if I have any problems.
>Hope you don't play GPL, then. Apparently big problems with some
>configurations. TM is pointing finger at Sierra. Sierra says they're looking
>into it - don't hold your breath...
>Go to http://www.force-1.com discussions for all the dirt.
>Randy
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>>to >>>TM Customer >>>Support asking why the wheel will not work >>>(calibrate) with NR1999, ICR2 REND, N2, >>>TM's reply was that my 100 Pentium was not >>>fast enough to run the wheel and permit the game to calibrate/setup the >>wheel. >>>I know the box says 133Mhz "recommended". Apparently "recommended" means >>>"minimum" >>>in computer-speak. Not sure what I am going to do here. Anybody else >run >>>into this problem? TM appeared slightly clueless until the third call to >>them. >>> I am not sure whether to totally believe that it won't calibrate/setup. >I >>>have recently read also that Papy games are >>>not FF compliant. Still I feel the wheel should work as non-FF? If >>anybody >>>has feedback, please feel free to e-mail me. >>>Thank You Very Much!Looking for a review as well. I _almost_ picked it up at EB today but
held off. :-) The mounting systems looks exactly like the Nascar Pro
wheel. (which I love, and works well even with my keyboard drawer)
Also of note, the box said either serial or USB connections could be
used. This sounds really good as well. It was $159 at my local EB.
Andy
I just bought the wheel myself. Looks great, doesn't work. After 3 calls to
TM Customer
Support asking why the wheel will not work
(calibrate) with NR1999, ICR2 REND, N2,
TM's reply was that my 100 Pentium was not
fast enough to run the wheel and permit the game to calibrate/setup the wheel.
I know the box says 133Mhz "recommended". Apparently "recommended" means
"minimum"
in computer-speak. Not sure what I am going to do here. Anybody else run
into this problem? TM appeared slightly clueless until the third call to them.
I am not sure whether to totally believe that it won't calibrate/setup. I
have recently read also that Papy games are
not FF compliant. Still I feel the wheel should work as non-FF? If anybody
has feedback, please feel free to e-mail me.
Thank You Very Much!
>Getting mine tomorrow :) I returned my MS sidewinder wheel today to get it.
>I'll let the group know if I have any problems.
Hope you don't play GPL, then. Apparently big problems with some
configurations. TM is pointing finger at Sierra. Sierra says they're looking
into it - don't hold your breath...
Go to http://www.force-1.com discussions for all the dirt.
Randy
run
>>into this problem? TM appeared slightly clueless until the third call to
>them.
>> I am not sure whether to totally believe that it won't calibrate/setup. I
>>have recently read also that Papy games are
>>not FF compliant. Still I feel the wheel should work as non-FF? If
>anybody
>>has feedback, please feel free to e-mail me.
>>Thank You Very Much!
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>>I just bought the wheel myself. Looks great, doesn't work. After 3 calls >to >>TM Customer >>Support asking why the wheel will not work >>(calibrate) with NR1999, ICR2 REND, N2, >>TM's reply was that my 100 Pentium was not >>fast enough to run the wheel and permit the game to calibrate/setup the >wheel. >>I know the box says 133Mhz "recommended". Apparently "recommended" means >>"minimum" >>in computer-speak. Not sure what I am going to do here. Anybody elseP100? Then I assume you don't have USB, so you have it on a serial port.
The problem may be the modem if you have this configured at COM4/COM2 and
the wheel port is at COM2/COM4.
Friend of mine had a similar looking problem and after I ripped the modem
out the problem was gone, and wheel worked fine (well, sort of).
It broke down the first night and was returned the next day, so I didn't
look into it any further.
Hope this helps,
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> I just bought the wheel myself. Looks great, doesn't work. After 3 calls to > TM Customer > Support asking why the wheel will not work > (calibrate) with NR1999, ICR2 REND, N2, > TM's reply was that my 100 Pentium was not > fast enough to run the wheel and permit the game to calibrate/setup the wheel. > I know the box says 133Mhz "recommended". Apparently "recommended" means > "minimum" > in computer-speak. Not sure what I am going to do here. Anybody else run > into this problem? TM appeared slightly clueless until the third call to them. > I am not sure whether to totally believe that it won't calibrate/setup. I > have recently read also that Papy games are > not FF compliant. Still I feel the wheel should work as non-FF? If anybody > has feedback, please feel free to e-mail me. > Thank You Very Much!I bought a TM Force GT the same week they hit PC World in the UK, figuring
it was time for an upgrade to my T1 - I'd been using that since the days
of Indycar I & it'd performed brilliantly & had been well supported by TM
service.
The demonstration wheel looked & felt great in the store - 4 buttons, gear
shifter and paddles behind the wheel, pedals OK though travel a bit short,
though it wasn't plugged into any game so I couldn't test the FF. On
impulse I put my money down and took a boxed one home.
At home I unboxed it, read the manual & assembled it. The first thing
that struck me was the amount of additional cabling behind the PC -
external power supply, combined serial/USB lead, lead from the pedals to
the steering unit. The power & pedals leads connect in the middle at the
back of the steering unit so I couldn't have the keyboard in the usual
place behind the wheel, and the clamps seemed to take up more of my desk
than I'd expected. Also, I can't use the USB connection as I'm on W95
OSR1. I'm starting to feel a bit uneasy now ...
So I install the software & then plug the wheel in following the
instructions. The manual describes a self test you can do on the wheel,
so I try that ... not having tried a FF wheel before I had no idea what to
expect, but all the effects seem to work, except the last one. This does
nothing except make the wheel make a buzzing noise - that one we know from
hearing an electric motor burning out. Now I'm really uneasy ...
I unplug, switch off the wheel and start again. The noise has stopped
now, but the FF from one side of the wheel is waning & there's a
gears-slipping noise on turning the wheel in the other direction. By this
time I know I've got a broken brand-new wheel, and I also know that PC
World will only replace like with like, provided they can find a problem
with the wheel. And the store's closed for the night. By this time I
just want rid of the wheel & I'm worried I'll be stuck with it ...
As luck would have it, PC World found a different problem with the wheel -
the power supply had packed up when they tried it the next day. They
didn't have another one in the store so were forced to refund ... and I
went away relieved. I consider myself fortunate that I managed to escape
being bitten for being an early adopter.
It is with some regret that I post this story, as I've had years out of my
other early adoption, the TM T1 for which I spent 40UKP more than the
Force GT 5 years ago ... but I thought it important that anyone else
considering buying one of these this early should hear about it.
Caveat Emptor
James
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>the steering unit. The power & pedals leads connect in the middle at the
>back of the steering unit so I couldn't have the keyboard in the usual
>place behind the wheel, and the clamps seemed to take up more of my desk
>than I'd expected. Also, I can't use the USB connection as I'm on W95
>OSR1. I'm starting to feel a bit uneasy now ...
This is one thing I didn't like about the MS FF wheel, the way they
ran the cables, especially the ac adapter. (it plugged into the base
of the wheel) Does the ac adapter for the TM wheel also plug into the
wheel or by chance the pedals?
I suppose they do this so they wouldn't have to run the power from the
foot base up a cable to the wheel? I just find it annoying to have
all those cables over my desk, and was hoping the USB version would
have a few less cables.
Andy
My 2 cents...
Right now I really feel that I made my purchase too early. My favorite
games (NR1999, ICR <dos> versions) don't work even work because they do not
see the control (DOS games are suppose to see the control from a dos windows
from win9x). The game that came with the controller is very touchy, some
times it sees the pedals and some times it does not. My plans are to return
the thing for the Nascar Pro to get back to the joystick port. The one
thing that stands out for me is the lack of the wheel to center it self in
FF games and NON-FF games.
I wish everyone else best of luck with this controller!
