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I want to drive a 1976 Tyrrell Ford Type P34 "Six-wheeler" in GPL!

4 posts by 4 people · 02 Jan 1999 - 04 Jan 1999

Jeff Ha 02 Jan 1999#443087
My dream would be to be able to drive the P34 at Mosport Park as that was the first GP I ever attended. The 6 wheel car really attracted my attention so that when Tamaya produced a 1/20th scale kit for it, I had to build it. A difficult task, but I still have it sitting here on my desk. I doubt that we'll see Mr, Kaemmer adding the required suspension and wheel models to an already complex physics model... so I'll just have to imagine it. I now this game has taken me to a different level of interest in racing and Grand Prix history. I've been buying old out of print books about historic racing and just bought "Race Car Vehicle Dynamics" by W and D Milliken. The math is ok but what I found real interesting was the historical chapter 13 and how much of the vehicle dynamic knowledge was expanded and started due to the litigation against GM over the "unsafe at any speed" Corvair. (To those of you too young to know about the Corvair, it was a rear engine, rear wheel drive car built in the US by Chevy as an answer to Volkswagens starting in 1960) To think that much of our knowledgebase was started over the lowly Corvair is amazing and rather ironic. Well back to Rouen for next week's race on-line. Jeff Haas 150 hours in GPL... I've soloed but no one will give me a license!
> I doubt that we'll see Mr, Kaemmer adding the required > suspension and wheel models to an already complex physics model... so > I'll just have to imagine it. Please do so, because I for one would hate to see GPL bastardised by the likes of the P34! -- Regards, Bruce. ---------- HMRC Web site address is:- http://www2.tpg.com.au/users/brucek/hmrc/index.htm ----------
DB 03 Jan 1999#443273
>> I doubt that we'll see Mr, Kaemmer adding the required >> suspension and wheel models to an already complex physics model... so >> I'll just have to imagine it. >Please do so, because I for one would hate to see GPL bastardised by the >likes of the P34! Why? It's a part of F1 heritage. Why would GPL be bastardised by its presence? -- DB --
Tim O 04 Jan 1999#443475
Quoted text (8 lines)>Dynamics" by W and D Milliken. The math is ok but what I found real >interesting was the historical chapter 13 and how much of the vehicle >dynamic knowledge was expanded and started due to the litigation >against GM over the "unsafe at any speed" Corvair. (To those of you >too young to know about the Corvair, it was a rear engine, rear wheel >drive car built in the US by Chevy as an answer to Volkswagens >starting in 1960) To think that much of our knowledgebase was >started over the lowly Corvair is amazing and rather ironic.
[snip] The Corvair actually wasn't so lowly, with independent rear suspension and turbo-charging (Monza) 20 years ahead of when they were commonly used. I'm not really a Corvair fan, but I do feel it was a car railroaded out of existence by a self-righteous jerk. He knocked GM and the US auto industry on their asses as far as being willing to try new technology. The suspension problem Mr. Nader "discovered" is evident in many older independent rear suspension cars. Basically, it's just fast rebound on one side of the car after a hard corner. -- http://www.users.fast.net/~fusion1 (dirt bikes, rat bikes, rental car abuse...)

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