GPL Graphics problem

I have a PII 450 w/ 128megs of RAM and an ATI Rage Pro. All I am able to run GPL in is 640x480 in Software rendering mode. Even then I am getting a frame rate of 20 tops. I have tryed the OpenGL and have gotten a whopping 2 fps. Any help? Or has Sierra again sold a product that wasn't advertised on the box? Evan Sayre

% I have a PII 450 w/ 128megs of RAM and an ATI Rage Pro. All I am able to % run GPL in is 640x480 in Software rendering mode. Even then I am getting a % frame rate of 20 tops. I have tryed the OpenGL and have gotten a whopping 2 % fps. Any help? Or has Sierra again sold a product that wasn't advertised % on the box? I suppose you can read it as that. For the present (and maybe the future), you either need a 3DFX or Rendition card to achieve maximum frame rate peformance from GPL. Since you already have a good 2d/3d card, I would suggest getting a Voodoo2 card to work in conjunction with it. (BTW: Sierra doesn't have any "vested" interests in 3DFX cards.) -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Even with your system, the only way you are going to dramitcally increase your frame is by getting a Rendition based video card or a 3dfx video card. I have a P2/350. I didn't have diddly squat in fps until I got a Voodoo2. Now I get 36/37 fps.

On Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:44:13 -0500, "Evan Sayre" >I have a PII 450 w/ 128megs of RAM and an ATI Rage Pro. All I am able to >run GPL in is 640x480 in Software rendering mode. Even then I am getting a >frame rate of 20 tops. I have tryed the OpenGL and have gotten a whopping 2 >fps. Any help? Or has Sierra again sold a product that wasn't advertised >on the box? GPL *really wants* a 3Dfx or Rendition 3D card (it will give you the full 36 fps in 800x600 [or higher] that the sim is capable of). It is in the "recommended" portion of the system specs, which is debatable. OTOH, think of the poor guys using software mode with a lesser CPU... NAR Northeast Regional Contest Board site - points and more...

On Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:44:13 -0500, "Evan Sayre"

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>I have a PII 450 w/ 128megs of RAM and an ATI Rage Pro. All I am able to >run GPL in is 640x480 in Software rendering mode. Even then I am getting a >frame rate of 20 tops. I have tryed the OpenGL and have gotten a whopping 2 >fps. Any help? Or has Sierra again sold a product that wasn't advertised >on the box? >Evan Sayre

Evan, apparently there are OpenGL drivers and then there are OpenGL drivers. I've seen your specific problem mentioned before (horrible OpenGL FPS), and if I recall correctly it boils down to getting an OpenGL driver specific for your card, if available. Check the ATI website or do a websearch. I think there's a driver involved at the Papy website also. Hopefully someone will jump in with the specific info, but in the interim I'd suggest you dig around a bit on the OpenGL issue. And the suggestions to pick up a Voodoo2 card would be the ultimate overall solution. I think it would be a safe guess that the majority of us hooked on high-end games/sims are running a 3dfx card.

What is the minimum memory I should get?

Might as well get 12 megs now, since you'll be able to "SLI" it when u win the lottery next year :) (plus 8's are going out & 12's have really come down in price)

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>What is the minimum memory I should get? >>I have a PII 450 w/ 128megs of RAM and an ATI Rage Pro. All I am able to >>run GPL in is 640x480 in Software rendering mode. Even then I am getting

a >>frame rate of 20 tops. I have tryed the OpenGL and have gotten a whopping >2 >>fps. Any help? Or has Sierra again sold a product that wasn't advertised >>on the box? >>Evan Sayre

Been there, done that, bought a new computer. Stupid(for a game!), but effective... :) Eldred __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I've currently got a 200 Pentium, 32 RAM and a Voodoo1 card, running with 8 opponents and about half the graphics I get about 18-22 FPS. The question is - which should I upgrade next? Should I get more RAM, upgrade to a voodoo2 or upgrade the motherboard/CPU?? Obviously the CPU is the best but most expensive and I'm really after a cheaper short term solution. Would it be worth getting a Voodoo2 or is the bottleneck with the processor and RAM? Thanks -- Mike Buckley

% I've currently got a 200 Pentium, 32 RAM and a Voodoo1 card, running % with 8 opponents and about half the graphics I get about 18-22 FPS. The % question is - which should I upgrade next? Should I get more RAM, % upgrade to a voodoo2 or upgrade the motherboard/CPU?? % Obviously the CPU is the best but most expensive and I'm really after a % cheaper short term solution. Would it be worth getting a Voodoo2 or is % the bottleneck with the processor and RAM? The best approach is to upgrade everything! However, a voodoo2 won't help much in you situation as it relies on some CPU horsepower. The quickest and easiest upgrade would be a new Rendition card. But, I don't know how much more in frame rate you would really achieve, as running with AI again needs CPU horsepower. First upgrade your CPU/MB and while you are at it, plug in at least 64 mb of RAM. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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>I've currently got a 200 Pentium, 32 RAM and a Voodoo1 card, running >with 8 opponents and about half the graphics I get about 18-22 FPS. The >question is - which should I upgrade next? Should I get more RAM, >upgrade to a voodoo2 or upgrade the motherboard/CPU?? >Obviously the CPU is the best but most expensive and I'm really after a >cheaper short term solution. Would it be worth getting a Voodoo2 or is >the bottleneck with the processor and RAM? >Thanks >-- >Mike Buckley

I have a Pentium MMX 200MHz, 64MB RAM, and a Vodoo1 card. I get about the same frame rate as you. SO more RAM is not going to help. A voodo2 may help, but I really think your money would be best used in a new Motherboard and CPU purchase. SLG (All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new and improved ways of spelling old words. Gramatical errors are due to too many English classes/teachers)