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GPL & Porsche 917

13 posts by 10 people · 01 Jan 1999 - 07 Jan 1999

Larry 01 Jan 1999#442813
Question to this group. Has anyone considered apply cars such as the Porsche 917, Ford GT40, and other cars of this vein to the tracks of GPL era ?? Driving a 917 at Watkins Glen would be a blast !!
Driving a 917 at Watkins Glen would The funny deal is most guys who raced the 917 with the exception of Vic Elford did not really lilke the car. they described the car as spooky. Dave
Sure it would, and they should add the Cobra too (I am a bit afraid of pushing mine too far on the road, as my real Cobra has NO shift+R option !). In fact, it would be a great idea of making a complete sim like GPL with GT cars of tthe same era. Cya Larry
Quoted text (11 lines)>>Question to this group. Has anyone considered apply cars such >>as the Porsche 917, Ford GT40, and other cars of this vein to >>the tracks of GPL era ?? Driving a 917 at Watkins Glen would >>be a blast !! >Sure it would, and they should add the Cobra too (I am a bit >afraid of pushing mine too far on the road, as my real Cobra >has NO shift+R option !). >In fact, it would be a great idea of making a complete sim like >GPL with GT cars of tthe same era.
I envy very few (if any) people, but you're one of them. I wish I could afford a real A/C. Alas, I'm relegated to the world of diecast to fill my Cobra habit. And yes - I'd love to be able to throw a GT40, a Daytona Coupe, or even a 427 S/C around Le Mans. Let's hope Papy seizes on this great opportunity to provide us with a slew of different types of cars to play with. -- ========================================================= John Simmons - Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html John Simmons - Barbarian Diecast Collector http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html IGPS Director http://members.home.net/jms1/igps.html If you want to send me email, go to either of the URL's shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================
Murphb 03 Jan 1999#443163
>The funny deal is most guys who raced the 917 with the exception of Vic >Elford did not really lilke the car. they described the car as spooky. Spooky, schmooky -- 239mph at LeMans, 257mph for the final CanAm version.....I want one, always have, always will. Bob
Well you can die many deaths in a sim. > >The funny deal is most guys who raced the 917 with the exception of Vic > >Elford did not really lilke the car. they described the car as spooky. > Spooky, schmooky -- 239mph at LeMans, 257mph for the final CanAm version.....I > want one, always have, always will. > Bob
Michael 03 Jan 1999#443165
IIRC, Porsche much improved the 917 after its initial showings, where by all accounts it was downright scary to drive. I think they drastically changed the aerodynamics of the rear bodywork. A sports car sim of that era would be fun though. - Michael
EldredP 04 Jan 1999#443357
>Well you can die many deaths in a sim. And I *have*.... ;( __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
The Glen, again? :-/ What about, in addtion to the Ring (1000km), Spa and others, also Le Mans and the incredible Targa Florio, racing through the mountains and villages of Sicily? -- _____ /_______\ .\\ a t t h e a d I XT /~~~~ I 500\_____ 1977' Yamaha XT.Rex 500 Enduro \____/\__I_I http://matthead.home.pages.de/
On Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:50:50 -0000, "Michael" >IIRC, Porsche much improved the 917 after its initial showings, where by all >accounts it was downright scary to drive. I think they drastically changed >the aerodynamics of the rear bodywork. True, the initial 917 had a slim (airfoil <sp?>) "Long Tail" for minimum drag and maximum speed at Le Mans, just like the previous Porsche models (eg. 906) with much smaller engines. With that tail, the car did not generate any downforce, but rather upforce, and test drivers reported the 917 to be undriveable (and simply dangerous) at high speed on the long straight on the 'Ring. So, after many complaints and unnecessary changes of the chassis (because the technicians did'nt want to give up any top speed), the rear bodywork was changed (AFAIK the private Gulf team pioneered) to the well-known wedge-like design, and the 917 became a winner. -- _____ /_______\ .\\ a t t h e a d I XT /~~~~ I 500\_____ 1977' Yamaha XT.Rex 500 Enduro \____/\__I_I http://matthead.home.pages.de/
Michael 04 Jan 1999#443360
of Sicily? Oh yes. That gets my vote. - Michael
Speaking of diecast, Exoto is coming out with a 1:18 early Corvette Grand Sport..think its this month. In the same catalog issue that had that announcment, they also mention some of the next cars they're doing which include '65 and '66 Ford GT 40's. Their website (which was empty for the longest time is now running www.exoto.com and they mention that a whole line of late 60's CanAm cars is scheduled in both 1:43 and 1:18 scale. Their Cobra Coupe and 67 Lotus are remarkable models. John Simmons wrote ... Steve
The *real* dangerous part about the 917 though, was it's ALUMINUM spaceframe!! The frames had a very bad habit of cracking up in the weldings whilch made the car handle like Smith's famous "Pongo-sticks".... and/or eventually snap apart! Porsche's solution?? Well belive it or not... the filled the frames with compressed air or welding gas and fitted a manometer (pressure-gague) in the***pit - connected to the frame. So that when the driver noticed a decreasing pressure on the gauge... he knew the frame had cracked and it was time to park the car!! -- All the best, Edwin Solheim **remove spamguard in address to reply** Drop by "The Paddock - a legendary site....." for some cool GPL stuff! http://home.c2i.net/thepaddock Matthias Flatt skrev i meldingen >On Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:50:50 -0000, "Michael" >>IIRC, Porsche much improved the 917 after its initial showings, where by all >>accounts it was downright scary to drive. I think they drastically changed >>the aerodynamics of the rear bodywork. >True, the initial 917 had a slim (airfoil <sp?>) "Long Tail" for >minimum drag and maximum speed at Le Mans, just like the previous >Porsche models (eg. 906) with much smaller engines. >With that tail, the car did not generate any downforce, but rather >upforce, and test drivers reported the 917 to be undriveable (and >simply dangerous) at high speed on the long straight on the 'Ring. >So, after many complaints and unnecessary changes of the chassis >(because the technicians did'nt want to give up any top speed), the >rear bodywork was changed (AFAIK the private Gulf team pioneered) to >the well-known wedge-like design, and the 917 became a winner. >-- > _____ > /_______\ .\\ a t t h e a d >I XT /~~~~ >I 500\_____ 1977' Yamaha XT.Rex 500 Enduro > \____/\__I_I http://matthead.home.pages.de/

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