Hi,
I am about to upgrade my video card due to the current one having broken
(NVidia Ti4200). I am seriously thinking about ATI cards now, but wanted to
check if there were any well-known problems with either the NVidia GFFX
cards or the ATI 9x00 cards?
At the moment, my budget is allowing me either a 9600 Pro or 9800 SE, which
would be best? I am also going to get a new processor (I've got a 1800XP
atm), probably a 2800 XP or similar.
I also play other sims like Grand Prix 4 and Live for Speed, so any comments
would be great before I place my order!
Thanks
Scott
scott wrote:
As far as I know both work fine with GPL. I've got a 9800xt and GPL
flies :-)
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> Hi, > > I am about to upgrade my video card due to the current one having broken > (NVidia Ti4200). I am seriously thinking about ATI cards now, but wanted to > check if there were any well-known problems with either the NVidia GFFX > cards or the ATI 9x00 cards? > > At the moment, my budget is allowing me either a 9600 Pro or 9800 SE, which > would be best? I am also going to get a new processor (I've got a 1800XP > atm), probably a 2800 XP or similar. > > I also play other sims like Grand Prix 4 and Live for Speed, so any comments > would be great before I place my order! > > Thanks > > Scott > >> At the moment, my budget is allowing me either a 9600 Pro or 9800 SE,which
> would be best? I am also going to get a new processor (I've got a 1800XP
> atm), probably a 2800 XP or similar.
Strongly suggest you consider the 9800pro, which is $230 at newegg.com
right now, a steal. As for the cpu, look into selling your cpu+mobo and
getting a Athlon64 3000+ instead of AthlonXP.
rms
"rms" wrote
> Strongly suggest you consider the 9800pro, which is $230 at newegg.com
> right now, a steal. As for the cpu, look into selling your cpu+mobo and
> getting a Athlon64 3000+ instead of AthlonXP.
>
I would doubt his budget would allow him to get anywhere close to that.
If I were him I would buy the 9600 Pro, which comes in at a good $80-100
less than the 9800 Pro. Even the 9600XT is much less. As for the
processor, it will cost around $320+ for the motherboard and processor if he
goes for an Athlon 64 processor.
I also think this guy is based in Europe (as the 9800se is very, very rare
in the US), so prices at Newegg might not be relevant.
Not that you need much of anything to run an old game like GPL.
"rms" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:zDMRb.13149$[email hidden]...
> > At the moment, my budget is allowing me either a 9600 Pro or 9800 SE,
> which
> > would be best? I am also going to get a new processor (I've got a1800XP
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> > atm), probably a 2800 XP or similar. > > Strongly suggest you consider the 9800pro, which is $230 at newegg.com > right now, a steal. As for the cpu, look into selling your cpu+mobo and > getting a Athlon64 3000+ instead of AthlonXP. > > rms > >Jts,
there is a lot more to the question layed out by Scott than you percieved.
"dont need much to run that old game" is about like saying you can haul dirt
in your station wagon, if you want to instead of having a truck.
See there for a while if you had ATI card and your favorite game was "GPL"
there were issues, that made things difficult... that is if I recall
correctly, them bit of problems, which lead me to getting "GeForced"
instead. I also dont think the 95/9600's when they were new, had anything
but driver problems?
I too am going to move up a notch in the next month or 2, from my ti4600, to
what, I am not sure yet. and seeing the post about the 9800 pro at new egg,
well that might be the bargain, but like I said if people still having
trouble with ATI and playing GPL, then it wouldnt be worth it to Scott.
JTS wrote:
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> Not that you need much of anything to run an old game like GPL. > > "rms" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:zDMRb.13149$[email hidden]... >>> At the moment, my budget is allowing me either a 9600 Pro or 9800 >>> SE, which would be best? I am also going to get a new processor >>> (I've got a 1800XP atm), probably a 2800 XP or similar. >> >> Strongly suggest you consider the 9800pro, which is $230 at >> newegg.com right now, a steal. As for the cpu, look into selling >> your cpu+mobo and getting a Athlon64 3000+ instead of AthlonXP. >> >> rms"Sting32" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
I think one can say ATI and GPL are a fairly safe bet at this point.
There are a few caveats - you don't get OpenGL (which was a nice step
up in perf for me on my Ti4200), you have to change mirror rendering
to get FSAA in the last 2-3 Catalyst driver versions (which for some
people causes a drop in perf, but oddly gave me and others 2-3 *more*
FPS in BOTG tests), and you're not going to see huge FPS gains if you
want to bump detail bias, GPL features, etc - you can just run high
FSAA/Aniso with little or no performance penalty.
As an example, I have an AMD XP 2400+ oc'd to 3000+, a 9700 Pro, and
run 1152x864 4xAA,8xAniso,3.7 Omega Catalysts,Win98SE. I could go
higher, except for a few things - I can't stand FPS dropping below 28
or so anytime, I like all the eye candy in GPL on (GPL Glance, 99%
detail bias, specular highlights - rarely seen in-car, but I like them
on in replays), and I don't like messing about with different options
for different tracks. So if I can't get good performance at Monaco
Rocks hi res, back of the grid I'm not happy.
If you run primarily online or for GPLRank, worrying about the BOTG
tests are not that important. It'd be hard to justify an upgrade from
the Ti4600 to a 9600/9800 *just* for GPL - I'm not sure you'd see
enough of a perf boost in any situation in GPL. Now, if you got a
9600/9800 and started using AA and aniso in alot of other games where
the ti4600 couldn't handle it, then it would be worth it. EA
F1-2002/F1C/mods are absolutely stunning, as is NR2003 and the various
mods.
HTH,
Kendt
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> Jts, > > there is a lot more to the question layed out by Scott than you percieved. > "dont need much to run that old game" is about like saying you can haul dirt > in your station wagon, if you want to instead of having a truck. > > See there for a while if you had ATI card and your favorite game was "GPL" > there were issues, that made things difficult... that is if I recall > correctly, them bit of problems, which lead me to getting "GeForced" > instead. I also dont think the 95/9600's when they were new, had anything > but driver problems? > > I too am going to move up a notch in the next month or 2, from my ti4600, to > what, I am not sure yet. and seeing the post about the 9800 pro at new egg, > well that might be the bargain, but like I said if people still having > trouble with ATI and playing GPL, then it wouldnt be worth it to Scott. > > JTS wrote: > > Not that you need much of anything to run an old game like GPL. > > > > "rms" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:zDMRb.13149$[email hidden]... > >>> At the moment, my budget is allowing me either a 9600 Pro or 9800 > >>> SE, which would be best? I am also going to get a new processor > >>> (I've got a 1800XP atm), probably a 2800 XP or similar. > >> > >> Strongly suggest you consider the 9800pro, which is $230 at > >> newegg.com right now, a steal. As for the cpu, look into selling > >> your cpu+mobo and getting a Athlon64 3000+ instead of AthlonXP. > >> > >> rms"scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<bv7uhi$2qqb$[email hidden]>...
Just found the ATI Radeon 9600XT (128MB) at Circuit City for $149 with
FREE Half-Life 2 - great bang for the buck.
Bill
