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GPL Lockups -Sierra's reply

16 posts by 12 people · 22 Dec 1998 - 21 Jan 1999

OldManWa 22 Dec 1998#441289
Thought everyone would be interested in reading reply from Sierra about GPL lockups , so here is my message back to them there message to me and then my first message to them Thanks for the information and suggestions on my problem running GPL. To answer the first part of suggestion here is a copy of my autoexec.bat file REM Environment Settings For McAfee VirusScan SET PATH=%PATH%;C:\PROGRA~1\NETWOR~1\MCAFEE~1 Rem,"Added for Voodoo2" set SST_GRXCLK=90 set SST_FT_CLK_DEL=0x4 set SST_TF0_CLK_DEL=0x6 set SST_TF1_CLK_DEL=0x6 set SST_VIN_CLKDEL=0x1 set SST_VOUT_CLKDEL=0x0 set SST_TMUMEM_SIZE=2 as you can see I am setting the speed of my Voodoo2 to 90 mhz to your second suggestion for using the reference drivers from 3dfx using Glide 2.53 drivers from this is the only way that I can keep GPL from locking up, if I use the Glide 2.54 drivers GPL will lockup . I already have a fan blowing on my Voodoo2 cards and the Pll33 also has a fan, I really don't think it is a over heating problem, this was the same suggestion the company that made Unreal gave for there software problem. Thanks for your help and I am looking forward to being able to play GPL without having to coping the Glide 2.53 drivers each time I want to play then if I want to Play your other game half-life I have too copy the Glide 2.54 drivers back . People in the news groups will also be glad to know that Sierra is working on this problem, so I will post this reply to all the 3dfx news groups. Yours truly Ken Brown -----Original Message----- To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 12:54 PM Subject: RE: email form:GRAND PRIX LEGENDS >Hello, >I do not have a definite answer for you on this, but have a few suggestions.
Quoted text (14 lines)>Papyrus is currently working with 3Dfx to try to get this nailed down. >I can tell you that Diamond sets the clock speed of their Voodoo 2 cards >higher than any other manufacturer of Voodoo 2 cards. This factor is set in >the registry, but unfortunately I do not know the exact way to change that. >Since most Voodoo 2 problems are with the diamond cards, I am beginning to >believe that the clock speed has something to do with it. GPL uses Voodoo 2 >cards in a way that no other game has, the mirrors are basically separate >screens, so it pushes the card harder than any other game. Drop Diamond a >line and ask them how you can lower your cards clock speed to 90 MHz. >Secondly, give the Voodoo 2 reference drivers (NOT THE DIRECTX 6 DRIVERS) >from http://www.3dfx.com/ try popping the case of your >computer and pointing a table fan at your CPU/Voodoo 2 card. This will
lower
Quoted text (26 lines)>the temperature of your system by at least 10 degrees and may stop the >lockups. >Please let us know if you need any further assistance, and include any >previous messages with your reply. >Thanks, >Chris- Sierra Tech >> -----Original Message----- >> From:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 1998 8:57 PM >> To: Hardware >> Subject: email form:GRAND PRIX LEGENDS >> GRAND PRIX LEGENDS >> Sound Blaster 64 >> more >> Abit BX6 motherboard >> Pll 333 >> Windows 95 >> Other >> Game locks up in menu screen after starting , the only way to cure this >> problem is to install Glide 2.53 drivers When Glide 2.54 drivers are >> installed the game will lockup. Since I also have HalfLife which requires >> Glide 2.54 I assume that Sierra should come out with a patch to fix GPL.
I >> have noticed several people in the news groups that are having this >> problem and also 1 person in my Sunday School Class that was telling me >> his son had bought GPL and that it wouldn't run on his computer either. I >> posted a message on all the 3dfx news groups saying that I would notify >> Sierra and that we should have a fix for this soon . Please advise as to >> when we can expect a patch for this game . Thanks Ken Brown
Krilli 22 Dec 1998#441290
This doesn't set the clockrate at 90 its done by the registry or if u use monsters slider its done by sliding the bar they provide although if u use reference drivers u need to edit the registry : HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\3Dfx Interactive\Voodoo2\D3D\SSTV2_GRXCLK HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\3Dfx Interactive\Voodoo2\Glide\SSTV2_GRXCLK U should be able to find all the other settings that u need to modify there to.. if u want to increase the overclocking of the panel that diamond (or any other manufacturer) provides u need to edit: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Diamond\Monster 3D II\panel\PERFMAX and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Diamond\Monster 3D II\panel\PERFMIN
I really hope that they solve this soon, as it has been months now! Iain
Quoted text (54 lines)>Thought everyone would be interested in reading reply from Sierra about >GPL lockups , so here is my message back to them there message to me and >then >my first message to them >Thanks for the information and suggestions on my problem running GPL. >To answer the first part of suggestion here is a copy of my autoexec.bat >file >C:\PROGRA~1\NETWOR~1\MCAFEE~1\SCAN.EXE C:\ >REM Environment Settings For McAfee VirusScan >SET PATH=%PATH%;C:\PROGRA~1\NETWOR~1\MCAFEE~1 >Rem,"Added for Voodoo2" >set SST_GRXCLK=90 >set SST_FT_CLK_DEL=0x4 >set SST_TF0_CLK_DEL=0x6 >set SST_TF1_CLK_DEL=0x6 >set SST_VIN_CLKDEL=0x1 >set SST_VOUT_CLKDEL=0x0 >set SST_TMUMEM_SIZE=2 >as you can see I am setting the speed of my Voodoo2 to 90 mhz >to your second suggestion for using the reference drivers from 3dfx >using Glide 2.53 drivers from this is the only way that I can keep GPL >from locking up, if I use the Glide 2.54 drivers GPL will lockup . I >already >have a fan blowing on my Voodoo2 cards and the Pll33 also has a fan, I >really don't think it is a over heating problem, this was the same >suggestion >the company that made Unreal gave for there software problem. Thanks >for your help and I am looking forward to being able to play GPL without >having to coping the Glide 2.53 drivers each time I want to play then if I >want to Play your other game half-life I have too copy the Glide 2.54 >drivers >back . People in the news groups will also be glad to know that Sierra is >working on this problem, so I will post this reply to all the 3dfx news >groups. >Yours truly >Ken Brown >-----Original Message----- >To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 12:54 PM >Subject: RE: email form:GRAND PRIX LEGENDS >>Hello, >>I do not have a definite answer for you on this, but have a few >suggestions. >>Papyrus is currently working with 3Dfx to try to get this nailed down. >>I can tell you that Diamond sets the clock speed of their Voodoo 2 cards >>higher than any other manufacturer of Voodoo 2 cards. This factor is set
in >>the registry, but unfortunately I do not know the exact way to change that. >>Since most Voodoo 2 problems are with the diamond cards, I am beginning to >>believe that the clock speed has something to do with it. GPL uses Voodoo 2
Quoted text (33 lines)>>cards in a way that no other game has, the mirrors are basically separate >>screens, so it pushes the card harder than any other game. Drop Diamond a >>line and ask them how you can lower your cards clock speed to 90 MHz. >>Secondly, give the Voodoo 2 reference drivers (NOT THE DIRECTX 6 DRIVERS) >>from http://www.3dfx.com/ a shot. Lastly, try popping the case of your >>computer and pointing a table fan at your CPU/Voodoo 2 card. This will >lower >>the temperature of your system by at least 10 degrees and may stop the >>lockups. >>Please let us know if you need any further assistance, and include any >>previous messages with your reply. >>Thanks, >>Chris- Sierra Tech >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 1998 8:57 PM >>> To: Hardware >>> Subject: email form:GRAND PRIX LEGENDS >>> GRAND PRIX LEGENDS >>> Sound Blaster 64 >>> more >>> Abit BX6 motherboard >>> Pll 333 >>> Windows 95 >>> Other >>> Game locks up in menu screen after starting , the only way to cure this >>> problem is to install Glide 2.53 drivers When Glide 2.54 drivers are >>> installed the game will lockup. Since I also have HalfLife which
requires >>> Glide 2.54 I assume that Sierra should come out with a patch to fix GPL. >I >>> have noticed several people in the news groups that are having this >>> problem and also 1 person in my Sunday School Class that was telling me >>> his son had bought GPL and that it wouldn't run on his computer either. I >>> posted a message on all the 3dfx news groups saying that I would notify >>> Sierra and that we should have a fix for this soon . Please advise as to >>> when we can expect a patch for this game . Thanks Ken Brown
Gambler 22 Dec 1998#441292
I run the glide 2.54 drivers from Diamonds site <12-1-98 version> with win 98 and have NEVER had problems with the GPL game locking up at all . I ran the 3dfx reference drivers and later the direct6 drivers also with no problems before updating the drivers . Of course I dont have the SLI setup you mention but the reference drivers for the sli from 3dfx were fine with my teammates when they ran it . the problem may be something else . perhaps the 2d and 3d cards <3dfx> arent set on the same refresh rate in windows that can cause lockups . Of course results may vary , but just wanted to toss some ideas at you guys rather than see you wait around for a fix I really hope that they solve this soon, as it has been months now! Iain
Quoted text (54 lines)>Thought everyone would be interested in reading reply from Sierra about >GPL lockups , so here is my message back to them there message to me and >then >my first message to them >Thanks for the information and suggestions on my problem running GPL. >To answer the first part of suggestion here is a copy of my autoexec.bat >file >C:\PROGRA~1\NETWOR~1\MCAFEE~1\SCAN.EXE C:\ >REM Environment Settings For McAfee VirusScan >SET PATH=%PATH%;C:\PROGRA~1\NETWOR~1\MCAFEE~1 >Rem,"Added for Voodoo2" >set SST_GRXCLK=90 >set SST_FT_CLK_DEL=0x4 >set SST_TF0_CLK_DEL=0x6 >set SST_TF1_CLK_DEL=0x6 >set SST_VIN_CLKDEL=0x1 >set SST_VOUT_CLKDEL=0x0 >set SST_TMUMEM_SIZE=2 >as you can see I am setting the speed of my Voodoo2 to 90 mhz >to your second suggestion for using the reference drivers from 3dfx >using Glide 2.53 drivers from this is the only way that I can keep GPL >from locking up, if I use the Glide 2.54 drivers GPL will lockup . I >already >have a fan blowing on my Voodoo2 cards and the Pll33 also has a fan, I >really don't think it is a over heating problem, this was the same >suggestion >the company that made Unreal gave for there software problem. Thanks >for your help and I am looking forward to being able to play GPL without >having to coping the Glide 2.53 drivers each time I want to play then if I >want to Play your other game half-life I have too copy the Glide 2.54 >drivers >back . People in the news groups will also be glad to know that Sierra is >working on this problem, so I will post this reply to all the 3dfx news >groups. >Yours truly >Ken Brown >-----Original Message----- >To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 12:54 PM >Subject: RE: email form:GRAND PRIX LEGENDS >>Hello, >>I do not have a definite answer for you on this, but have a few >suggestions. >>Papyrus is currently working with 3Dfx to try to get this nailed down. >>I can tell you that Diamond sets the clock speed of their Voodoo 2 cards >>higher than any other manufacturer of Voodoo 2 cards. This factor is set
in >>the registry, but unfortunately I do not know the exact way to change that. >>Since most Voodoo 2 problems are with the diamond cards, I am beginning to >>believe that the clock speed has something to do with it. GPL uses Voodoo 2
Quoted text (33 lines)>>cards in a way that no other game has, the mirrors are basically separate >>screens, so it pushes the card harder than any other game. Drop Diamond a >>line and ask them how you can lower your cards clock speed to 90 MHz. >>Secondly, give the Voodoo 2 reference drivers (NOT THE DIRECTX 6 DRIVERS) >>from http://www.3dfx.com/ a shot. Lastly, try popping the case of your >>computer and pointing a table fan at your CPU/Voodoo 2 card. This will >lower >>the temperature of your system by at least 10 degrees and may stop the >>lockups. >>Please let us know if you need any further assistance, and include any >>previous messages with your reply. >>Thanks, >>Chris- Sierra Tech >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 1998 8:57 PM >>> To: Hardware >>> Subject: email form:GRAND PRIX LEGENDS >>> GRAND PRIX LEGENDS >>> Sound Blaster 64 >>> more >>> Abit BX6 motherboard >>> Pll 333 >>> Windows 95 >>> Other >>> Game locks up in menu screen after starting , the only way to cure this >>> problem is to install Glide 2.53 drivers When Glide 2.54 drivers are >>> installed the game will lockup. Since I also have HalfLife which
requires >>> Glide 2.54 I assume that Sierra should come out with a patch to fix GPL. >I >>> have noticed several people in the news groups that are having this >>> problem and also 1 person in my Sunday School Class that was telling me >>> his son had bought GPL and that it wouldn't run on his computer either. I >>> posted a message on all the 3dfx news groups saying that I would notify >>> Sierra and that we should have a fix for this soon . Please advise as to >>> when we can expect a patch for this game . Thanks Ken Brown
Thanks for that, but it has nothing to do with refresh rates as all other software works OK. Not everyone has the 'lock-up' problem, but most people do and it is definitely the DX6 V2 drivers, as going back to the release DX5 V2 drivers solves the problem. Iain >I run the glide 2.54 drivers from Diamonds site <12-1-98 version> >with win 98 and have NEVER had problems with the GPL game locking up >at all . I ran the 3dfx reference drivers and later the direct6 drivers also >with no problems before >updating the drivers . Of course I dont have the SLI setup you mention but >the reference drivers >for the sli from 3dfx were fine with my teammates when they ran it . >the problem may be something else . perhaps the 2d and 3d cards <3dfx> arent
Quoted text (69 lines)>set on the same >refresh rate in windows that can cause lockups . Of course results may vary >, but just wanted to toss >some ideas at you guys rather than see you wait around for a fix >I really hope that they solve this soon, as it has been months now! >Iain >>Thought everyone would be interested in reading reply from Sierra about >>GPL lockups , so here is my message back to them there message to me and >>then >>my first message to them >>Thanks for the information and suggestions on my problem running GPL. >>To answer the first part of suggestion here is a copy of my autoexec.bat >>file >>C:\PROGRA~1\NETWOR~1\MCAFEE~1\SCAN.EXE C:\ >>REM Environment Settings For McAfee VirusScan >>SET PATH=%PATH%;C:\PROGRA~1\NETWOR~1\MCAFEE~1 >>Rem,"Added for Voodoo2" >>set SST_GRXCLK=90 >>set SST_FT_CLK_DEL=0x4 >>set SST_TF0_CLK_DEL=0x6 >>set SST_TF1_CLK_DEL=0x6 >>set SST_VIN_CLKDEL=0x1 >>set SST_VOUT_CLKDEL=0x0 >>set SST_TMUMEM_SIZE=2 >>as you can see I am setting the speed of my Voodoo2 to 90 mhz >>to your second suggestion for using the reference drivers from 3dfx >>using Glide 2.53 drivers from this is the only way that I can keep GPL >>from locking up, if I use the Glide 2.54 drivers GPL will lockup . I >>already >>have a fan blowing on my Voodoo2 cards and the Pll33 also has a fan, I >>really don't think it is a over heating problem, this was the same >>suggestion >>the company that made Unreal gave for there software problem. Thanks >>for your help and I am looking forward to being able to play GPL without >>having to coping the Glide 2.53 drivers each time I want to play then if I >>want to Play your other game half-life I have too copy the Glide 2.54 >>drivers >>back . People in the news groups will also be glad to know that Sierra is >>working on this problem, so I will post this reply to all the 3dfx news >>groups. >>Yours truly >>Ken Brown >>-----Original Message----- >>To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 12:54 PM >>Subject: RE: email form:GRAND PRIX LEGENDS >>>Hello, >>>I do not have a definite answer for you on this, but have a few >>suggestions. >>>Papyrus is currently working with 3Dfx to try to get this nailed down. >>>I can tell you that Diamond sets the clock speed of their Voodoo 2 cards >>>higher than any other manufacturer of Voodoo 2 cards. This factor is set >in >>>the registry, but unfortunately I do not know the exact way to change >that. >>>Since most Voodoo 2 problems are with the diamond cards, I am beginning
to >>>believe that the clock speed has something to do with it. GPL uses Voodoo >2 >>>cards in a way that no other game has, the mirrors are basically separate >>>screens, so it pushes the card harder than any other game. Drop Diamond a
Quoted text (33 lines)>>>line and ask them how you can lower your cards clock speed to 90 MHz. >>>Secondly, give the Voodoo 2 reference drivers (NOT THE DIRECTX 6 DRIVERS) >>>from http://www.3dfx.com/ a shot. Lastly, try popping the case of your >>>computer and pointing a table fan at your CPU/Voodoo 2 card. This will >>lower >>>the temperature of your system by at least 10 degrees and may stop the >>>lockups. >>>Please let us know if you need any further assistance, and include any >>>previous messages with your reply. >>>Thanks, >>>Chris- Sierra Tech >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 1998 8:57 PM >>>> To: Hardware >>>> Subject: email form:GRAND PRIX LEGENDS >>>> GRAND PRIX LEGENDS >>>> Sound Blaster 64 >>>> more >>>> Abit BX6 motherboard >>>> Pll 333 >>>> Windows 95 >>>> Other >>>> Game locks up in menu screen after starting , the only way to cure this >>>> problem is to install Glide 2.53 drivers When Glide 2.54 drivers are >>>> installed the game will lockup. Since I also have HalfLife which >requires >>>> Glide 2.54 I assume that Sierra should come out with a patch to fix
GPL.
Quoted text (7 lines)>>I >>>> have noticed several people in the news groups that are having this >>>> problem and also 1 person in my Sunday School Class that was telling me >>>> his son had bought GPL and that it wouldn't run on his computer either. >I >>>> posted a message on all the 3dfx news groups saying that I would notify >>>> Sierra and that we should have a fix for this soon . Please advise as
to >>>> when we can expect a patch for this game . Thanks Ken Brown
andy.bol 23 Dec 1998#441420
Hi i had the same problems and have cured them all by installing Direct x 6.1. Hope this helps.
Quoted text (89 lines)> C:\PROGRA~1\NETWOR~1\MCAFEE~1\SCAN.EXE C:\ > REM Environment Settings For McAfee VirusScan > SET PATH=%PATH%;C:\PROGRA~1\NETWOR~1\MCAFEE~1 > Rem,"Added for Voodoo2" > set SST_GRXCLK=90 > set SST_FT_CLK_DEL=0x4 > set SST_TF0_CLK_DEL=0x6 > set SST_TF1_CLK_DEL=0x6 > set SST_VIN_CLKDEL=0x1 > set SST_VOUT_CLKDEL=0x0 > set SST_TMUMEM_SIZE=2 > as you can see I am setting the speed of my Voodoo2 to 90 mhz > to your second suggestion for using the reference drivers from 3dfx > using Glide 2.53 drivers from this is the only way that I can keep GPL > from locking up, if I use the Glide 2.54 drivers GPL will lockup . I > already > have a fan blowing on my Voodoo2 cards and the Pll33 also has a fan, I > really don't think it is a over heating problem, this was the same > suggestion > the company that made Unreal gave for there software problem. Thanks > for your help and I am looking forward to being able to play GPL without > having to coping the Glide 2.53 drivers each time I want to play then if I > want to Play your other game half-life I have too copy the Glide 2.54 > drivers > back . People in the news groups will also be glad to know that Sierra is > working on this problem, so I will post this reply to all the 3dfx news > groups. > Yours truly > Ken Brown > -----Original Message----- > To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 12:54 PM > Subject: RE: email form:GRAND PRIX LEGENDS > >Hello, > >I do not have a definite answer for you on this, but have a few > suggestions. > >Papyrus is currently working with 3Dfx to try to get this nailed down. > >I can tell you that Diamond sets the clock speed of their Voodoo 2 cards > >higher than any other manufacturer of Voodoo 2 cards. This factor is set in > >the registry, but unfortunately I do not know the exact way to change that. > >Since most Voodoo 2 problems are with the diamond cards, I am beginning to > >believe that the clock speed has something to do with it. GPL uses Voodoo 2 > >cards in a way that no other game has, the mirrors are basically separate > >screens, so it pushes the card harder than any other game. Drop Diamond a > >line and ask them how you can lower your cards clock speed to 90 MHz. > >Secondly, give the Voodoo 2 reference drivers (NOT THE DIRECTX 6 DRIVERS) > >from http://www.3dfx.com/ a shot. Lastly, try popping the case of your > >computer and pointing a table fan at your CPU/Voodoo 2 card. This will > lower > >the temperature of your system by at least 10 degrees and may stop the > >lockups. > >Please let us know if you need any further assistance, and include any > >previous messages with your reply. > >Thanks, > >Chris- Sierra Tech > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 1998 8:57 PM > >> To: Hardware > >> Subject: email form:GRAND PRIX LEGENDS > >> GRAND PRIX LEGENDS > >> Sound Blaster 64 > >> more > >> Abit BX6 motherboard > >> Pll 333 > >> Windows 95 > >> Other > >> Game locks up in menu screen after starting , the only way to cure this > >> problem is to install Glide 2.53 drivers When Glide 2.54 drivers are > >> installed the game will lockup. Since I also have HalfLife which requires > >> Glide 2.54 I assume that Sierra should come out with a patch to fix GPL. > I > >> have noticed several people in the news groups that are having this > >> problem and also 1 person in my Sunday School Class that was telling me > >> his son had bought GPL and that it wouldn't run on his computer either. I > >> posted a message on all the 3dfx news groups saying that I would notify > >> Sierra and that we should have a fix for this soon . Please advise as to > >> when we can expect a patch for this game . Thanks Ken Brown
Jeff Sharp 24 Dec 1998#441578
Not true in my case. Going back to the DX5 V2 drivers only allowed me to play longer before the lockups start occurring. It may be that the DX6 drivers make an existing problem worse. Jeff
DX6.1 makes no difference to me or most others I'm afraid as far as this problem is concerned, but thanks for that. Iain >Hi i had the same problems and have cured them all by installing Direct x 6.1.
Quoted text (26 lines)>Hope this helps. >> C:\PROGRA~1\NETWOR~1\MCAFEE~1\SCAN.EXE C:\ >> REM Environment Settings For McAfee VirusScan >> SET PATH=%PATH%;C:\PROGRA~1\NETWOR~1\MCAFEE~1 >> Rem,"Added for Voodoo2" >> set SST_GRXCLK=90 >> set SST_FT_CLK_DEL=0x4 >> set SST_TF0_CLK_DEL=0x6 >> set SST_TF1_CLK_DEL=0x6 >> set SST_VIN_CLKDEL=0x1 >> set SST_VOUT_CLKDEL=0x0 >> set SST_TMUMEM_SIZE=2 >> as you can see I am setting the speed of my Voodoo2 to 90 mhz >> to your second suggestion for using the reference drivers from 3dfx >> using Glide 2.53 drivers from this is the only way that I can keep GPL >> from locking up, if I use the Glide 2.54 drivers GPL will lockup . I >> already >> have a fan blowing on my Voodoo2 cards and the Pll33 also has a fan, I >> really don't think it is a over heating problem, this was the same >> suggestion >> the company that made Unreal gave for there software problem. Thanks >> for your help and I am looking forward to being able to play GPL without >> having to coping the Glide 2.53 drivers each time I want to play then if
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Quoted text (21 lines)>> want to Play your other game half-life I have too copy the Glide 2.54 >> drivers >> back . People in the news groups will also be glad to know that Sierra is >> working on this problem, so I will post this reply to all the 3dfx news >> groups. >> Yours truly >> Ken Brown >> -----Original Message----- >> To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 12:54 PM >> Subject: RE: email form:GRAND PRIX LEGENDS >> >Hello, >> >I do not have a definite answer for you on this, but have a few >> suggestions. >> >Papyrus is currently working with 3Dfx to try to get this nailed down. >> >I can tell you that Diamond sets the clock speed of their Voodoo 2 cards >> >higher than any other manufacturer of Voodoo 2 cards. This factor is set
in >> >the registry, but unfortunately I do not know the exact way to change that. >> >Since most Voodoo 2 problems are with the diamond cards, I am beginning to >> >believe that the clock speed has something to do with it. GPL uses Voodoo 2 >> >cards in a way that no other game has, the mirrors are basically separate >> >screens, so it pushes the card harder than any other game. Drop Diamond a >> >line and ask them how you can lower your cards clock speed to 90 MHz. >> >Secondly, give the Voodoo 2 reference drivers (NOT THE DIRECTX 6 DRIVERS)
Quoted text (26 lines)>> >from http://www.3dfx.com/ a shot. Lastly, try popping the case of your >> >computer and pointing a table fan at your CPU/Voodoo 2 card. This will >> lower >> >the temperature of your system by at least 10 degrees and may stop the >> >lockups. >> >Please let us know if you need any further assistance, and include any >> >previous messages with your reply. >> >Thanks, >> >Chris- Sierra Tech >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 1998 8:57 PM >> >> To: Hardware >> >> Subject: email form:GRAND PRIX LEGENDS >> >> GRAND PRIX LEGENDS >> >> Sound Blaster 64 >> >> more >> >> Abit BX6 motherboard >> >> Pll 333 >> >> Windows 95 >> >> Other >> >> Game locks up in menu screen after starting , the only way to cure
this >> >> problem is to install Glide 2.53 drivers When Glide 2.54 drivers are >> >> installed the game will lockup. Since I also have HalfLife which requires >> >> Glide 2.54 I assume that Sierra should come out with a patch to fix GPL. >> I >> >> have noticed several people in the news groups that are having this >> >> problem and also 1 person in my Sunday School Class that was telling me >> >> his son had bought GPL and that it wouldn't run on his computer either. I >> >> posted a message on all the 3dfx news groups saying that I would notify >> >> Sierra and that we should have a fix for this soon . Please advise as to >> >> when we can expect a patch for this game . Thanks Ken Brown
Jeff, You are the first person I have heard of having the problem, with the release DX5 V2 drivers. Maybe it's a different problem? Iain
Quoted text (15 lines)>Not true in my case. Going back to the DX5 V2 drivers only allowed me to >play longer before the lockups start occurring. It may be that the DX6 >drivers make an existing problem worse. >Jeff >>Thanks for that, but it has nothing to do with refresh rates as all other >>software works OK. >>Not everyone has the 'lock-up' problem, but most people do and it is >>definitely the DX6 V2 drivers, as going back to the release DX5 V2 drivers >>solves the problem. >>Iain
I'm having the lock up problems too, with Dx5 drivers. Paul
Quoted text (25 lines)> Jeff, > You are the first person I have heard of having the problem, with the > release DX5 V2 drivers. Maybe it's a different problem? > Iain > >Not true in my case. Going back to the DX5 V2 drivers only allowed me > to > >play longer before the lockups start occurring. It may be that the > DX6 > >drivers make an existing problem worse. > >Jeff > >>Thanks for that, but it has nothing to do with refresh rates as all > other > >>software works OK. > >>Not everyone has the 'lock-up' problem, but most people do and it is > >>definitely the DX6 V2 drivers, as going back to the release DX5 V2 > drivers > >>solves the problem. > >>Iain
Is it the same lockup problem? i.e. is it on the menus after about 15-20 secs after loading? Iain
Quoted text (32 lines)>I'm having the lock up problems too, with Dx5 drivers. >Paul >> Jeff, >> You are the first person I have heard of having the problem, with the >> release DX5 V2 drivers. Maybe it's a different problem? >> Iain >> >Not true in my case. Going back to the DX5 V2 drivers only allowed me >> to >> >play longer before the lockups start occurring. It may be that the >> DX6 >> >drivers make an existing problem worse. >> >Jeff >> >>Thanks for that, but it has nothing to do with refresh rates as all >> other >> >>software works OK. >> >>Not everyone has the 'lock-up' problem, but most people do and it is >> >>definitely the DX6 V2 drivers, as going back to the release DX5 V2 >> drivers >> >>solves the problem. >> >>Iain
Mike King 29 Dec 1998#442219
I had the same problem and tracked it down to the glide2x.dll version 2.54 file in the windows system directory. Simply swapping this file only for the 2.53 version before running GPL and swapping it back afterwards allowed me to run all games - not the ideal solution but at least it was only one file that needed to be changed which can easily be set up in a batch file to launch GPL. This using 3DFX reference DX6 drivers. Worked for me on 12MB Orchid Righteous II running in SLI. Have since changed drivers and am using the Monster drivers (file M3Dii203.exe dated 11/11/98) which, although glide 2.53, allows me to run GPL and Half Life (and Thief, ***2, Quake2 etc.) without problems. Don't know if this will help but I'm happy. First post so I hope it's OK. Spook
Quoted text (7 lines)>DX6.1 makes no difference to me or most others I'm afraid as far as this >problem is concerned, but thanks for that. >Iain >>Hi i had the same problems and have cured them all by installing Direct x >6.1. >>Hope this helps.
pl.ross 02 Jan 1999#442946
Bonne anne 1999 pour plus de renseignement cris moi
EldredP 04 Jan 1999#443303
writes: Merci! Toi, aussi! That's about IT for my french... <G> Eldred __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Odin Jense 15 Jan 1999#445377
If thou sayest so, then mayhap 'tis true :) -- BR, OJ >Bonne anne 1999 >pour plus de renseignement cris moi
asdf 21 Jan 1999#446394
all right den... I reckon it is that way. > Bonne anne 1999 > pour plus de renseignement cris moi

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