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Joystick not connected!!

5 posts by 4 people · 19 Dec 1998 - 20 Dec 1998

BP astro 7 19 Dec 1998#440986
Someone please help me I'm going through gpl withdrawls. I have a TM nascar pro wheel and sidewinder 3d pro stick,in game controllers it says not connected,I've tried numerous fix's new drivers from microsoft, and other sources, one fix I can't get to work is setting the i/o resources to 0201-0201, when I do it say's " the setting you selected is not valid for this device" the setting now is 0200-0207,is this the problem, would a TM acm gamecard help? I have a Dell 333mhz,128mg ram,Diamond fire gl pro 8mg,Blackmagic V2 12mg sli,Soundblaster live,Win98,directx 6.1 beta,all the driver's are up to date. Also these devices were working ok when I was running win95, directx6.0, soundblaster live then when they stopped working. I did the upgradeing hopeing it would help,NO LUCK I would be very gratefull for any help,I really need to start racing again,it's been over two weeks sinced I raced, God I love! this game!!!
% Someone please help me I'm going through gpl withdrawls. % I have a TM nascar pro wheel and sidewinder 3d pro stick,in game % controllers it says not connected,I've tried numerous fix's new drivers from % microsoft, and other sources, one fix I can't get to work is setting the i/o % resources to 0201-0201, when I do it say's " the setting you selected is not % valid for this device" the setting now is 0200-0207,is this the problem, would % a TM acm gamecard help? % I have a Dell 333mhz,128mg ram,Diamond fire gl pro 8mg,Blackmagic V2 12mg % sli,Soundblaster live,Win98,directx 6.1 beta,all the driver's are up to date. % Also these devices were working ok when I was running win95, directx6.0, % soundblaster live then when they stopped working. I did the upgradeing hopeing % it would help,NO LUCK First the games controller will only recognize the first (ID #1) controller selected. Make sure that you have your game port is selected in the Advanced tab of the games controller. Can you get GPL to recognize your wheel via the generic input option. If not, then I think the problem is with your soundcard's setup in Windows. As a last resort, you may wish to restart Windows in safe mode and remove your soundcard from the Device Manager. The reboot and reinstall the soundcard. Of course make sure you have the drivers you need before you attempt this. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Doc Wyn 19 Dec 1998#440988
Adding a TM gamecard *might* fix the problem, which seems to be in the Creative SB Live! card and the way it "talks" to Win9x. Check to see if the joystick port on the SB Live is good by selecting the "Generic" driver in the Controls screen in GPL. If the port is good, you'll be able to calibrate and use your game controller now. If not, return the card to your retailer, the port is toasted. The 0200-0207 address is correct for the card. AGP, Black Magic V2 12 Meg., SB Live, Win 95 OSR2, Dx 6, current "release" drivers. When I installed my SB Live, things went very smoothly and everything worked just as I hoped. After about two weeks the joystick port went completely out of my SB Live (no response even in generic mode). I removed the card and installed a cheapie Yamaha card I had laying around. Once again, things worked fine. Yesterday, I finally got around to getting into town and exchanging the defective card. Got home with the new one, pulled the Yamaha card and re-installed the SB Live. Still no joystick! However, on this one, the joystick port is good, since setting GPL to "Generic" will allow me to calibrate and use my wheel. The Game Controller applet in the Control Panel showed "Not Connected" for both my wheel or my joystick. However, the Direct X applet showed "no problems". I removed Direct X using the instructions on Bill's Workshop http://www.billsworkshop.com/techtips/ , but this didn't fix the problem, as when you remove the Direct X Control Panel joystick applet, you don't get your Win9x one back. Removing and re-installing the SB live didn't help. Finally, I was able to fix the problem this way: 1.) Remove the SB Live card and it's drivers 2.) Remove Direct X (using the instructions above) 3.) Go into your windows directory and renaming WIN.COM to WIN.OLD. By renaming WIN.COM, your OEM CD thinks it's a new install, and won't give the error message that "This CD is for installation on New Systems only, and is not intended for upgrade purposes." (Not everyone will get this message from using their CD, but mine is an OEM CD, so it looks for WIN.COM as a way to check if it's a new install.) However, once the install starts, the setup program will see your existing registry and treat it as an upgrade, preserving all your existing settings. 4.) Re-install Win 95 (or 98) over your existing copy. Do not let Windows setup replace any newer drivers it finds. 5.) Replace the SB Live card and install it's drivers. (This should get you the original Joystick applet back in your Control Panel.) 6.) Reinstall Direct X. After doing all of that, you should now find that your game controller will be OK and will calibrate normally. Hope this helps...it seems that while the SB Live! is a very good card, it's interface with Windows and particularly Direct X needs a bit of improvement. :) Regards, Doc phRed '95 - CSP #25 Team Monster Miata Stereo -- Never a late apex, never a dull moment.
Hello BP astro 7, What driver is currently selected for your joystick? I have an SB Live!, and the gameport works very well. In fact, I have a TM ACM game card that I removed from the system after installing the SB live. The joystick response is more consistent and games run slightly faster since the port is PCI based, not ISA. You should be using the "Creative Gameport Joystick" driver under W98. Could there be another gameport in your system anywhere? For example, if you have on-board sound, it may still be providing a joystick port. You could try what Doc suggests, or just remove all of the related drivers under "Sound, video and game controllers" then reboot the system. When it finds the SB Live, reload using the newest drivers from the creative site. You should probably also get the newest sidewinder software from uSoft. If all of this doesn't fix it, your SB live is probably bad and you should return it for another. BTW, I'm using DirectX 6, not 6.1. Best Wishes, Scott
Quoted text (10 lines)>> Someone please help me I'm going through gpl withdrawls. >> I have a TM nascar pro wheel and sidewinder 3d pro stick,in game >>controllers it says not connected,I've tried numerous fix's new drivers from >>microsoft, and other sources, one fix I can't get to work is setting the i/o >>resources to 0201-0201, when I do it say's " the setting you selected is not >>valid for this device" the setting now is 0200-0207,is this the problem, would >>a TM acm gamecard help? >> I have a Dell 333mhz,128mg ram,Diamond fire gl pro 8mg,Blackmagic V2 12mg >>sli,Soundblaster live,Win98,directx 6.1 beta,all the driver's are up to date.
BP astro 7 20 Dec 1998#441134
Doc thanks for the help !! you were right the game port on the SB live is toasted,the reason why I couldn't figure it out was I've taken my thrustmaster wheel apart so much ( broken spring's what else) I must have did something to the wiring,took it apart played with it now it's working with my awe64 and I'm back to racing!!! oh what a relief it is!!. By the way how did you go about exchanging it,did you go back to the store or through the mail? Thank's again and happy racing Buster

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