Doesn't Anyone Have A MS Sidewinder Pad & A Wheel???

If you do.....how to you instal both? when I install the sidewinder software, it replaces the Thrustmaster Wheel software & vice-versa. How can I install both in W95? Do I need to get a "joyswitch" and if so, anyone know where they are available. I couldnt find any in the stores near me.

As far as I have know, it can't be done. (Or at least can't be done so that it is simple to switch from one to the other) I have to reinstall and recalibrate each when I want to use them. (Sidewinder gamepad and Thrustmaster T2 wheel) Maybe try going the USB route? I *think* that you can just have both plugged in without having to recalibrate or anything? Only problem being, you have to have a USB gamepad and wheel. =)

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>If you do.....how to you instal both? >when I install the sidewinder software, it replaces the >Thrustmaster Wheel software & vice-versa. How can I install >both in W95? Do I need to get a "joyswitch" and if so, anyone >know where they are available. I couldnt find any in the stores >near me.

USB will not help but the solution is this great program from CH Products: ftp://ftp.chproducts.com/pub/QJsetup.exe It allows you to select different active joystick without reinstall/calibration. At least it works great between these 3 joysticks: Logitech Wingman Force USB, Thrustmaster GP1 2-axis and Thrustmaster GP1 with 3-axis modification.

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>> As far as I have know, it can't be done. (Or at least can't be done so that >> it is simple to switch from one to the other) I have to reinstall and >> recalibrate each when I want to use them. (Sidewinder gamepad and >> Thrustmaster T2 wheel) Maybe try going the USB route? I *think* that you >> can just have both plugged in without having to recalibrate or anything? >USB will not help but the solution is this great program from >CH Products: ftp://ftp.chproducts.com/pub/QJsetup.exe >It allows you to select different active joystick without >reinstall/calibration. At least it works great between these >3 joysticks: Logitech Wingman Force USB, Thrustmaster GP1 2-axis >and Thrustmaster GP1 with 3-axis modification.

This is the beauty of the ActLabs Force RS wheel. Is doesn't use gameport on your soundcard, and instead uses the serial port. I have a MS force joystick and the Force RS wheel plugged in at the same time. Nice solution, IMHO, and one that the reviewers don't point out. Kinda odd that the Force RS web page doesn't point that out either, so it could be a bummer if somebody doesn't have a spare 9-pin serial port available. bo

% If you do.....how to you instal both? % when I install the sidewinder software, it replaces the % Thrustmaster Wheel software & vice-versa. How can I install % both in W95? Do I need to get a "joyswitch" and if so, anyone % know where they are available. I couldnt find any in the stores % near me. Actually I doubt the software is "replaced". However, Win95 will only see the device selected as ID #1. Get Thrustmaster's ProPanel applet and use it to select your device (remember it must be ID #1), and it should "remember" the calibration for you. At least then you will only need to select and not have to recalibrate. ftp://208.129.210.78/pub/library/calibration/propanelv11.exe -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

I was surprised when I found out that my Force RS wheel needed the serial port for hookup. I already had my DexDrive hooked to the serial port. I bought the Logitech Formula Force USB instead. Also, can I hook up the sidewinder gamepad to the gameport, since my wheel is USB? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Remember the good old 1980's, when things were so uncomplicated? I wish I could go back there again, and everything could be the same". from "Ticket To The Moon" by the Electric Light Orchestra Remove "spam-jammer" to reply Peace, love and Monkeemobiles, Galley

thanks!!!!! Im dlling as we speak and I'll let you know if it works. thanks again :) BTW....what's USB? It allows you to select different active joystick without reinstall/calibration. At least it works great between these 3 joysticks: Logitech Wingman Force USB, Thrustmaster GP1 2-axis and Thrustmaster GP1 with 3-axis modification.

sorry, but that program didnt work. ALl that program is is a quick access icon to the joystick icon in the control panel. It doesn't really do anything you cant already do. But my problem isn't switching between controllers. My problem is that I can't seem to install more that 1 at a time between the Thrustmaster wheel and the MS Sidewinder. I think this mat be because I only have 1 gameport. My last resort is to get a "joyswitch" I think. But thanks anyway. I can't believe noone else has this problem out there ??? >> As far as I have know, it can't be done. (Or at least can't be done so that >> it is simple to switch from one to the other) I have to reinstall and >> recalibrate each when I want to use them. (Sidewinder gamepad and >> Thrustmaster T2 wheel) Maybe try going the USB route? I *think* that you

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>> can just have both plugged in without having to recalibrate or anything? >USB will not help but the solution is this great program from >CH Products: ftp://ftp.chproducts.com/pub/QJsetup.exe >It allows you to select different active joystick without >reinstall/calibration. At least it works great between these >3 joysticks: Logitech Wingman Force USB, Thrustmaster GP1 2-axis >and Thrustmaster GP1 with 3-axis modification.

No, it's not just a quick access icon. You have to add your joystick via it's add/remove joystick and after that you can connnect a different stick and select it directly from Quickjoy's menu, once you have your joysticks set (so that they show it Quickjoy's menu) you don't have to open control panel's joystick icon again. So add one joystick, configure it and then add another, configure it and both should be selectable via the program's popup menu. And add Quickjoy to your Windows startup-group. And also remember to read the manual quickjoy.rtf It works great also with my friends Sidewinder Pad with Logitech Wingman plugged into Sidewinder's extra joyport. He just presses Sidewinders off/joyselect button and after that selects a different joystick via the Quickjoy program.

I have a TM Nascar Pro in the game port and a MS Sidewinder Pro USB in the USB port. Under Windows control panel, the wheel is "device #2, and the joystick is #1. No changes/calibrations neccesary as long as I play NASCAR/ICR/GP2 in DOS and joystick games in WIN95. It is neccesary however, to re-select the wheel as #1 if I need to use it for a Windows type game. The advantage of USB is that the joystick never needs re-calibration. You will need WIN 98 for any USB devices. Good luck. Chuck

that's exactly right......it gives you quick access to the joystick applet in the control pane. Using the quickjoy's add/remove is no dofferent that the control panel. My problem is that I cant add both using this method. I have to run the Sidewinder install software or the Thrustmaster install software to add either one, and then whichever one I install removes the other one that was there. I would love too..........but I cant seem to figure out a way to add both. popup menu. And add Quickjoy to your Windows startup-group. And also remember to read the manual quickjoy.rtf It works great also with my friends Sidewinder Pad with Logitech Wingman plugged into Sidewinder's extra joyport. He just presses Sidewinders off/joyselect button and after that selects a different joystick via the Quickjoy program.

It's not right since when you have added your joysticks they are listed in Quickjoy's menu above "add/remove joystick" and you just plug-in the correct joystick and select it from that menu. Have you tried to add just a driver for your joystick and not install the whole software package. Only drivers are needed for the joysticks to work.

yes, I havr tried this, but I don't know what the driver file is for either the MS SIdewinder or the Thrustmaster Wheel. When you go to add a joystick, and pick "have disk", it is looking for a ".inf" file, and I have no idea where the right file is. Can you help?

Why do you pick "have disk"? If you have once installed your joysticks the drivers should be already be in your system so just select the joystick from the list and calibrate it. If the correct name is not listed select "custom" and modify it.

Jack, this just occurred to me. The old INF files for the Sidewinder and Wheel should both still be on your hard drive, even if they are removed from the listing when you install the other software. It's probably in a hidden directory named: C:\WINDOWS\INF You should then (in theory) be able to add them manually without the software by going to the joystick controller and clicking "Add" then "Add Other" then "Have Disk" and type in the path. You'll have to guess on the INF name, but most of them follow a logical naming pattern. Or you could find the INF name by running the installation program until it pauses, and then switch back to windows and use explorer to browse your TEMP directory and you should be able to see it. If this doesn't help, I don't know what else will :)

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>> yes, I havr tried this, but I don't know what the driver file is >> for either the MS SIdewinder or the Thrustmaster Wheel. >> When you go to add a joystick, and pick "have disk", it is looking >> for a ".inf" file, and I have no idea where the right file is. >> Can you help? >Why do you pick "have disk"? If you have once installed your >joysticks the drivers should be already be in your system >so just select the joystick from the list and calibrate it. >If the correct name is not listed select "custom" and modify it.

that's the weird part......it's not listed in the drop down list, even after you install it. I guess they figure, why would you want to "add" something that is already there. I did figure out a partial solution.....I use my "remove-it" program to re-install the Sidewinder software with the click of one button. It's not the perfect solution, but it's easy.