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(GPL) about simulations! by Tucson Coyote

2 posts by 2 people · 15 Dec 1998 - 16 Dec 1998

Well, after looking over a series of news from the NG....I have to jump in here and put in a long and hopefully longwinded rant about simulations in general.... First off IMHO, anyone who things that simulations are supposed to be real life, well, they are in for a disapposintment.... Here is an example and it applies to flight simulations as well as racing ones.... I have a roommate who loves flight simulations..... He loves everything about flight and used to do actual flying in he air.... Anyway, when he gets in behind his simulator (I am using a well known flight simulatior as an Example, FS98....) Do you know what he does???? HE COMPLAINS!!!!! THat's right, he complains that this isn't right or that isn't right, or something isn't right about the simulation.....and he want to have it as real as it gets... Now Microsoft (God knows why???) put on their last simulation a statement... AS Real as it gets....and well I hate to say this but if it is real as it gets, where is all the reality in the simulation..... What I am saying is this... A simulation is NOT real life... Not should it be.... It is a re-creation (but not to the exacting detail) of the 1:1 real life world as we know it.... Now take this to racing simulations..... Simulations of Racing should not be taken to the effect that it should be exactly as in real life.....but it theoretically could be.... I mean if I had a heck of a lot of money and a lot of programming knowledge (and got a bunch of other people who could do the same thing as I together) THen there could be the possiblity of turning out one simulation that could be almost totally real.... Alas, How many ordinary Joes, or Janes for that matter have a huge amount of money and enough skill to program a simulator??? (Heck a lot of the common folk can hardly program a coffee pot to come on and make coffee at 7 in the morning, or know how to se up a Video recorder, to see a program that they want to....) So here is the scoop and deal about the difference about simulations and real life... You can't compare Devinci's Mona Lisa to an average artist out there who can draw worth a darn... In short, life is life and simulation is simulation... That is all there is.... Now there ARE folks out there who do try to recreate the real life experiences and input them to a simulator... But unfortunately you can come close, but it's still not real As for my roomie and the flight simulator???? Well, I told him flat out, that if he had the money, go out and fly a real plane, and leave the simulators to those who can't do what other can.... As for myself and racing simulator, Look, I myself, can't drive a car... If I did I would be arrested, cause I don't have a driver's license, the reason that I can't get a license to drive a real car??? well, it's because in real life, I am legally blind.... That is seriously the truth, my vision is so poor that if I actually got behind a real car, I would probably crash it before I got it 2 miles down the road! But I still would like to experience (and this is the key word!) EXPERIENCE something that could be called driving, but would not get anyone hurt, maimed or killed.... That is the reason for simulators... To let others who can not do what other can... As for Flying??? I can't even do that in real life, same reason...but get me behind a simulator, and I can fly, and drive and do whatever, I feel... So in short, if you guys really want to go out there and race in real life, go plunk down the money, get some lessons, and just do it... As for myself, I'll keep happily just do what I am doing, since my life is very limiited.... Now you probably say, go out and get a life... I do that too, but instead of driving, I take a bus, or If I fly I must take an airplane ride... but let's just drop the Idea abouttaking realism and jamming it into something that can be modeled (MODELED! mind you!) and just enjoy simulations As for PC Gamer and the Low rating.... That is their opiniom, I'd still like for anyone who thinks that a simulation is good to show it with the one thing that either makes or breaks a company, that is the way you vote with your wallet....and listen with your own racing (or flying) heart rather than some lame computer magazine that is just trying to get better sales bybiasing their opinions on what they think the buyer wants... One last fact, When I hear a review or read (with what vision I have left), a review that is bad, I question: Are they right, or are they feeding me a line... This is also True about movies, simulations, or whatever, it is how I the consumer feels about the product, and I take may own thoughts and ideas about the product with me, and leave all others opinions behind... I think I have rambled on for far too long, and if anyone either wants to praise me for what I said, or flame me for the same, all I can say is this... GO right ahead... cause folks like me, well, we just do whatever it takes to be happy ourselves, and we vote with our wallets! Just a reminder from Tucson Coyote, who thinks that any racing simulation is fine as long as it is fun.... I do not care if I win or lose, it just is fun... Nuff said!
Quoted text (14 lines)> First off IMHO, anyone who things that simulations are supposed to be > real life, well, they are in for a disapposintment.... > Here is an example and it applies to flight simulations as well as > racing ones.... > I have a roommate who loves flight simulations..... He loves > everything about flight and used to do actual flying in he air.... > Anyway, when he gets in behind his simulator (I am using a well known > flight simulatior as an Example, FS98....) Do you know what he > does???? > HE COMPLAINS!!!!!
I like a flight sim that has enough decent physical modelingso I don't waste all the time and effort I've spent soaking up air combat maneuvering theories without a license. If I can't do an unloaded dive to increase acceleration, or use lag pursuit effectively in a loop fight, what's the point? When I drive a racing sim, I want to be able to apply a decent amount of real world tactics and maneuvering. I want depth, so that as I get better, I can start to see glimmers of how much better I CAN get with even more practice/enjoyment. (And to amortize the driving part of my library... ;) No comment ;) - Matt WarBirds: =para= WarBirds Training Staff

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