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MSFFW + MTM2 + V2 = Boom!

4 posts by 4 people · 10 Dec 1998 - 10 Dec 1998

Larry 10 Dec 1998#439393
Got your attention? :) There seems to be an incompatibility when you use: The MS FF Wheel (more likely, _any_ Sidewinder device) and A VooDoo II Card and Monster Truck Madness II. It is OS independent. It happens with any flavor of Win9x. If you have it set up to use DirectX (3dfx) or directly to 3dfx, it will freeze in the 2D menu system when you try to go to 'Races'. Every time. Also, the sound takes on a stutter. Pressing the space bar temporarily clears the sound up, but it stops very soon afterwards, and the computer is locked up HARD. Only a hard reset will bring it back to life. This will not occur if you use any DirectX 3D device other than the VooDoo II. In other words, if I disable the V2's ability to act as a DirectX card in it's options, MTM2 will pick up on my Diamond G460 (i740 AGP Card) and runs fine. Of course, the graphics aren't nearly as good, and frame rates are much lower. I have tried every flavor of 3dfx driver in existance. Note that it _seems_ if you disable the SideWinder drivers, it goes away as well. Which would make you thing it's a SideWinder/3dfx issue, but no other programs have trouble. It's confusing, and a pain. MS's Knowledgebase has no info on this problem (not suprising). -Larry
Jim Getzen 10 Dec 1998#439394
Just so you know, for me, MSFFW + MTM2 + V2 = Fine. I wish I knew what to suggest for you though besides the usual "make sure you have the latest drivers." Jim Getzen
Quoted text (42 lines)>Got your attention? >:) >There seems to be an incompatibility when you use: >The MS FF Wheel (more likely, _any_ Sidewinder device) and >A VooDoo II Card and >Monster Truck Madness II. >It is OS independent. It happens with any flavor of Win9x. >If you have it set up to use DirectX (3dfx) or directly to 3dfx, it will >freeze in the 2D menu system when you try to go to 'Races'. >Every time. >Also, the sound takes on a stutter. Pressing the space bar temporarily >clears the sound up, but it stops very soon afterwards, and the computer >is locked up HARD. Only a hard reset will bring it back to life. >This will not occur if you use any DirectX 3D device other than the >VooDoo II. >In other words, if I disable the V2's ability to act as a DirectX card >in it's options, MTM2 will pick up on my Diamond G460 (i740 AGP Card) >and runs fine. Of course, the graphics aren't nearly as good, and frame >rates are much lower. >I have tried every flavor of 3dfx driver in existance. >Note that it _seems_ if you disable the SideWinder drivers, it goes away >as well. Which would make you thing it's a SideWinder/3dfx issue, but >no other programs have trouble. >It's confusing, and a pain. >MS's Knowledgebase has no info on this problem (not suprising). >-Larry
same here.
Quoted text (52 lines)>Just so you know, for me, MSFFW + MTM2 + V2 = Fine. >I wish I knew what to suggest for you though besides the usual "make sure >you have the latest drivers." >Jim Getzen >>Got your attention? >>:) >>There seems to be an incompatibility when you use: >>The MS FF Wheel (more likely, _any_ Sidewinder device) and >>A VooDoo II Card and >>Monster Truck Madness II. >>It is OS independent. It happens with any flavor of Win9x. >>If you have it set up to use DirectX (3dfx) or directly to 3dfx, it will >>freeze in the 2D menu system when you try to go to 'Races'. >>Every time. >>Also, the sound takes on a stutter. Pressing the space bar temporarily >>clears the sound up, but it stops very soon afterwards, and the computer >>is locked up HARD. Only a hard reset will bring it back to life. >>This will not occur if you use any DirectX 3D device other than the >>VooDoo II. >>In other words, if I disable the V2's ability to act as a DirectX card >>in it's options, MTM2 will pick up on my Diamond G460 (i740 AGP Card) >>and runs fine. Of course, the graphics aren't nearly as good, and frame >>rates are much lower. >>I have tried every flavor of 3dfx driver in existance. >>Note that it _seems_ if you disable the SideWinder drivers, it goes away >>as well. Which would make you thing it's a SideWinder/3dfx issue, but >>no other programs have trouble. >>It's confusing, and a pain. >>MS's Knowledgebase has no info on this problem (not suprising). >>-Larry
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mets41 10 Dec 1998#439396
Finally someone else is reporting this problem. I cannot get MTM2 to work with my Canopus Pure 3DII's linked in SLI mode. I have a ECCI controller, so I think the problem is Voodoo 2 related and not nessacerily Sidewinder related. I had no problem running the game until I hooked up my second V2 card. The game ran superbly with one Voodoo2; smooth frame rate with all graphic options enabled. Of course I've checked the Microsoft site, and there is no patches available for MTM2, nor anywhere else on the web that I can find.

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