RIVA TNT in GPL?

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> Any experiences yet? how fast is that card in racing simulation,especialy > in GPL? > I dont know which RIVA is the newest one ,I think V3400 with 16Mb and its > suppose to have 0.25 chip tehnology and SGRAM .Isnt it? > Can you give me acurate name of the latest RIVA I should go for. > Please support your answers with some FPS and comp. specifications. > Thanks!

I have the Creative Labs TNT AGP, Celeron 300a running at 450MHz, Abit BH6 motherboard, 64M PC100 8ns CAS3 RAM, Vortex A3D soundcard, T2 wheel/pedals. GPL runs perfect with the GPL second beta OpenGL driver and nvidia 0.48 reference drivers. At 1024* 768 resolution I get about 12fps in car at the start, about 20fps in car after the start. Out of car view, about 20fps at the start and 36fps after that. Those numbers are with all detail options turned on and max'd out, 19 competitors, and default core.ini file with mirror update set to 1. Obviously I can up the fps by switching to 640*480, but after you have seen 1024*768 you won't want to do that :) Hopefully nvidia fix the driver problem with the mirror updates and I can get 20fps in car at the start. For now though, quite happy with the current performance of GPL. Keith.

Any experiences yet? how fast is that card in racing simulation,especialy in GPL? I dont know which RIVA is the newest one ,I think V3400 with 16Mb and its suppose to have 0.25 chip tehnology and SGRAM .Isnt it? Can you give me acurate name of the latest RIVA I should go for. Please support your answers with some FPS and comp. specifications. Thanks! marko

I have the Creative Labs card and cannot get GPL to work with it. I don't run reference drivers, so I can't comment on the possibility that they might work. The rastorizer provided by papy is a BETA and is not supported or guaranteed to work. The latest Riva card is called a "TNT", and they backed off on the .25 chipset til Q1, 1999. In the meantime, ATI is about to hit the streets with the Rage Fury AGP with 32mb of onboard memory. The ATI card is producing benchmarks that are significantly better tha the TNT. Caveat - none of the ATI cards "reviewed" to date are the real magilla, and if I were you, I'd wait until all the lemmings buy one and report back on the card's true capabilities/shortcomings. There's a few available (STB, Creative Labs, Diamond, Canopus - take your pick. -- ========================================================= John Simmons - Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html John Simmons - Barbarian Diecast Collector http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html IGPS Director http://members.home.net/jms1/igps.html If you want to send me email, go to either of the URL's shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

Have a look at the TNT vs Voodoo2 in GPL comparison on my site -- Robin. http://www.oppositelock.freeserve.co.uk Nurburgring and Grand Prix Legends Remove nospam from e-mail address to reply >Any experiences yet? how fast is that card in racing simulation,especialy >in GPL? >I dont know which RIVA is the newest one ,I think V3400 with 16Mb and its >suppose to have 0.25 chip tehnology and SGRAM .Isnt it? >Can you give me acurate name of the latest RIVA I should go for. >Please support your answers with some FPS and comp. specifications. >Thanks! >marko

Got a Diamond Viper 550 in a PII350 overclocked to 392 (112Mhz on the Mboard) . Using the Beta 1 Open GL patch and getting 36FPS in 640x480 in ***pit...(less at the start, maybe 20) tweaked core ini to mirror update every 3 I.

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>Any experiences yet? how fast is that card in racing simulation,especialy >in GPL? >I dont know which RIVA is the newest one ,I think V3400 with 16Mb and its >suppose to have 0.25 chip tehnology and SGRAM .Isnt it? >Can you give me acurate name of the latest RIVA I should go for. >Please support your answers with some FPS and comp. specifications. >Thanks! >marko

300a/BH6 combo o'clocked to 450mhz. CL TNT card at default settings (though I seem to be able to o'clock it stabily too at 120mhz mem and 100mhz core). These settings result in stable 36fps at 800x600 with all graphics and I'm alone. Haven't tried 1024x768 yet. On pit road with 19 AI fps goes down to 25fps until I exit onto the track. During online racing I reduce a number of graphic options and run in 640x480 to keep fps at 36fps. With say 4 cars around you fps may drop to 32fps, but that's as low as it goes. Only raced online once though. Problem with current TNT drivers is that (at least for me), GPL hangs if I have a screen res of anything other than 640x480 and try and start racing with this setting. I need to change the res while in the ***pit (f2) and then make sure I switch back to 640x480 when I go back to the menu screens. Hopefully this will be fixed eventually. On Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:58:41 +0100, Marko Hadjina

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>Any experiences yet? how fast is that card in racing simulation,especialy >in GPL? >I dont know which RIVA is the newest one ,I think V3400 with 16Mb and its >suppose to have 0.25 chip tehnology and SGRAM .Isnt it? >Can you give me acurate name of the latest RIVA I should go for. >Please support your answers with some FPS and comp. specifications. >Thanks! >marko

I have a Diamond Viper 550, same problem only 640*480. Switched to the 0.48 nVidea reference drivers (www.nvidea.com). Now I can use 800*600 and 1024*768 the normal way. 1024 hits the fps though. Bart Westra

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>300a/BH6 combo o'clocked to 450mhz. CL TNT card at default settings >(though I seem to be able to o'clock it stabily too at 120mhz mem and >100mhz core). These settings result in stable 36fps at 800x600 with >all graphics and I'm alone. Haven't tried 1024x768 yet. On pit road >with 19 AI fps goes down to 25fps until I exit onto the track. >During online racing I reduce a number of graphic options and run in >640x480 to keep fps at 36fps. With say 4 cars around you fps may drop >to 32fps, but that's as low as it goes. Only raced online once >though. >Problem with current TNT drivers is that (at least for me), GPL hangs >if I have a screen res of anything other than 640x480 and try and >start racing with this setting. I need to change the res while in the >cockpit (f2) and then make sure I switch back to 640x480 when I go >back to the menu screens. Hopefully this will be fixed eventually. >On Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:58:41 +0100, Marko Hadjina >>Any experiences yet? how fast is that card in racing simulation,especialy >>in GPL? >>I dont know which RIVA is the newest one ,I think V3400 with 16Mb and its >>suppose to have 0.25 chip tehnology and SGRAM .Isnt it? >>Can you give me acurate name of the latest RIVA I should go for. >>Please support your answers with some FPS and comp. specifications. >>Thanks! >>marko

>>>Any experiences yet? how fast is that card in racing sim, >>>especialy in GPL? >> I have the Creative Labs card and cannot get GPL to work with it. I >> don't run reference drivers, so I can't comment on the possibility that >> they might work. The rastorizer provided by papy is a BETA and is not >> supported or guaranteed to work. >Have you tried setting your desktop to 16bit color depth ? That's where I always have it. -- ========================================================= John Simmons - Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html John Simmons - Barbarian Diecast Collector http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html IGPS Director http://members.home.net/jms1/igps.html If you want to send me email, go to either of the URL's shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

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> >Any experiences yet? how fast is that card in racing sim, > >especialy in GPL? > I have the Creative Labs card and cannot get GPL to work with it. I > don't run reference drivers, so I can't comment on the possibility that > they might work. The rastorizer provided by papy is a BETA and is not > supported or guaranteed to work.

Have you tried setting your desktop to 16bit color depth ? TF

I have a Viper 550, when I tested 0.48 ref-drivers, I could use 800x600 and 1024x768, but my framerate with a P-II 450 was below 20 :( , my problem though is that the screen flickers terribly in the menus and other games as well, the lower edge jumps from half the monitor-size down to using all of the screen all the time, anyone had a similar experience and got a solution? My monitor is a Samsung 700p bought about a year ago, havn't tested with another monitor yet, will do so in a week or so... /Stefan -- ========================================================== Software Developer Phone(Work): +46-(0)243-886 01 Columna AB Phone(Cell): +46-(0)70- 665 75 67 "Computers are like airconditioners; they stop working if you open Windows" ==========================================================