Re: OT:Who recomended Mozilla Firebird?

On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 22:00:40 -0600, Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> I'm trying to build a PIII computer with leftover parts for my wife so She won't keep >moving my wheel on my 'racing' box. It's all up and running but IE6 is constantly locking up and >acting flakey. If I redload and reinstall it, ie6 will work great..untill I shut the system down, >then the next time I fire up the machine...ie6 goes haywire again. > So I saw some mentions here on RAS of Firebird. I've used Mozilla in the past and this looks >like it's similar. It runs fine, no lockups like ie6. BUT...I can't get Java loaded and >enabled. Oh sure, the plugins installer SAYS Java was installed, but the browser >keeps refusing to run anything JAVA(which I NEED cuz that's what the Missus plays >online...java games) > So who gets the credit for WASTING my last two nights? Whos the genius? :) >And who knows how to get JAVA working on a win98se system?? > >dave henrie

You've got bigger issues if you can't get IE6 running without crashing. I use Firebird but I disable Java, just allow Javascript. There is an option to enable/diable Java in the settings area though. You could also try the java enabled version of Opera too. Opera comes in two versions, java and non-java, I use the latter. I don't need no steenkin' java.

I'm trying to build a PIII computer with leftover parts for my wife so She won't keep moving my wheel on my 'racing' box. It's all up and running but IE6 is constantly locking up and acting flakey. If I redload and reinstall it, ie6 will work great..untill I shut the system down, then the next time I fire up the machine...ie6 goes haywire again. So I saw some mentions here on RAS of Firebird. I've used Mozilla in the past and this looks like it's similar. It runs fine, no lockups like ie6. BUT...I can't get Java loaded and enabled. Oh sure, the plugins installer SAYS Java was installed, but the browser keeps refusing to run anything JAVA(which I NEED cuz that's what the Missus plays online...java games) So who gets the credit for WASTING my last two nights? Whos the genius? :) And who knows how to get JAVA working on a win98se system?? dave henrie

McCrack <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > You've got bigger issues if you can't get IE6 running without > crashing. (Agreed, but everything else seems stable and crashfree) >I use Firebird but I disable Java, just allow Javascript. <Both java boxes are check enabled> > There is an option to enable/diable Java in the settings area though. > You could also try the java enabled version of Opera too. Opera comes > in two versions, java and non-java, I use the latter. I don't need no > steenkin' java. > / Mee neither, but this is to free up the gaming machine so I'll definitely look into the java enabled opera.\ thanks!! dh {who can already hear the complaints when the buttons are not in the same place!}

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> I'm trying to build a PIII computer with leftover parts for my wife so She won't keep >moving my wheel on my 'racing' box. It's all up and running but IE6 is constantly locking up and >acting flakey. If I redload and reinstall it, ie6 will work great..untill I shut the system down, >then the next time I fire up the machine...ie6 goes haywire again. > So I saw some mentions here on RAS of Firebird. I've used Mozilla in the past and this looks >like it's similar. It runs fine, no lockups like ie6. BUT...I can't get Java loaded and >enabled. Oh sure, the plugins installer SAYS Java was installed, but the browser >keeps refusing to run anything JAVA(which I NEED cuz that's what the Missus plays >online...java games) > So who gets the credit for WASTING my last two nights? Whos the genius? :) >And who knows how to get JAVA working on a win98se system?? > >dave henrie

Have you tried iRider Dave (www.irider.com)? It's an IE "clone" but I think it's the best browser going. Especially usefull for viewing picture sites and the like. I've bought and tried Opera, Mozilla Firebird and the latest Mozilla but all I use now is iRider. -pw Paul Williamson Livingston, MT please use "paulwilliamson at spamcop.net" for e-mail thanks ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =---

Dave Henrie wrote:

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> I'm trying to build a PIII computer with leftover parts for my wife so She won't keep > moving my wheel on my 'racing' box. It's all up and running but IE6 is constantly locking up and > acting flakey. If I redload and reinstall it, ie6 will work great..untill I shut the system down, > then the next time I fire up the machine...ie6 goes haywire again. > So I saw some mentions here on RAS of Firebird. I've used Mozilla in the past and this looks > like it's similar. It runs fine, no lockups like ie6. BUT...I can't get Java loaded and > enabled. Oh sure, the plugins installer SAYS Java was installed, but the browser > keeps refusing to run anything JAVA(which I NEED cuz that's what the Missus plays > online...java games) > So who gets the credit for WASTING my last two nights? Whos the genius? :) > And who knows how to get JAVA working on a win98se system??

I use Firebird on my Computer for about 1 year now.. to make Java working, I hat to install the Java Runtime Environment (check out www.java.com [_NOT_ java.sun.com] - the JRE at java.com works better IMHO). hth michi www.f16simulator.net

On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 01:55:56 GMT, [email hidden] (alexti) wrote: >And look at the things from the positive angle - if IE doesn't >run that means you'll probably miss the next great virus ;-> > >Alex. Yea, but you need IE to get MS security updates because it uses ActiveX. I had to use IE6 just to get a patch for Fifa2004 from EA. They seem to think they are MS now and you have to get game updates by using their web update exe which also uses ActiveX. That really pissed me off.

> Have you tried iRider Dave (www.irider.com)? It's an IE "clone" but I > think it's the best browser going. Especially usefull for viewing > picture sites and the like. I've bought and tried Opera, Mozilla > Firebird and the latest Mozilla but all I use now is iRider. Interesting. Shame you can't uninstall IE6 in WinXP...

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> / Mee neither, but this is to free up the gaming machine so I'll definitely >look into the java enabled opera.\ >thanks!! >dh >{who can already hear the complaints when the buttons are not in the same >place!} >

LOL! That's why I'm stuck with Netcape 7.1! Jim

Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > I'm trying to build a PIII computer with leftover parts for my wifeFor PIII I'd recommend Opera. (I would recommend it for any computer, but on older computers its speed is particularly useful). And look at the things from the positive angle - if IE doesn't run that means you'll probably miss the next great virus ;-> Alex.

Piggy <[email hidden]> > Yea, but you need IE to get MS security updates because it uses > ActiveX. I had to use IE6 just to get a patch for Fifa2004 from EA. > They seem to think they are MS now and you have to get game updates by > using their web update exe which also uses ActiveX. That really pissed > me off. > Well the good news is....I Finally got it working. The original problem was ie6 would start to load, then freeze. Being the clever smart fellow I am, I attacked the problem from the wrong angle. I tried 3 browsers, with and without Java and all of them seemed to not quite function fully. Finally I downloaded the newest beta of Java. While installing, it asked which browser I wanted to install Java onto. I have Opera, Mozilla, Firebird and ie6 on thr spare box I built. but even tho the installer was asking which browser, it only displayed one checkbox for ie6. It is like the installer was either configured soley for ie6 or my system was not correctly reporting the other browsers. anyhow...to end this 4 night story...As soon as I got the beta Java installed, ie6 took off and ran like it was supposed to. Pages loaded quickly and the Java enabled games worked. So IF I had been born a smart and clever man, I might have figured out that the reason ie6 wasn't working in the first place was because it lacked a plugin. Oh well. I still don't know why my leftover system would not install the other two versions of Java properly. Or why the beta version of Java finally did install smoothly. But whatever the reason. At least one browser is working and that's good enough for me. Thanks for your help and suggestions folks. dave henrie

You should install, update and run SpyBot 1.2 and CWShredder. I'm willing to bet you have Spyware messing with IE. -Larry "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I'm trying to build a PIII computer with leftover parts for my wife soShe won't keep > moving my wheel on my 'racing' box. It's all up and running but IE6 isconstantly locking up and > acting flakey. If I redload and reinstall it, ie6 will work great..untillI shut the system down, > then the next time I fire up the machine...ie6 goes haywire again. > So I saw some mentions here on RAS of Firebird. I've used Mozilla inthe past and this looks > like it's similar. It runs fine, no lockups like ie6. BUT...I can't getJava loaded and > enabled. Oh sure, the plugins installer SAYS Java was installed, but thebrowser > keeps refusing to run anything JAVA(which I NEED cuz that's what theMissus plays > online...java games) > So who gets the credit for WASTING my last two nights? Whos thegenius? :) > And who knows how to get JAVA working on a win98se system?? > > dave henrie

Interesting Browser, but does it have a built-in newsgroup reader? Right now, I use Netscape for NG reading, but it's too damn unstable (crashes a lot). And I don't like Outlook's NG reader at all. pw wrote:

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> > I'm trying to build a PIII computer with leftover parts for my wife so She won't keep > >moving my wheel on my 'racing' box. It's all up and running but IE6 is constantly locking up and > >acting flakey. If I redload and reinstall it, ie6 will work great..untill I shut the system down, > >then the next time I fire up the machine...ie6 goes haywire again. > > So I saw some mentions here on RAS of Firebird. I've used Mozilla in the past and this looks > >like it's similar. It runs fine, no lockups like ie6. BUT...I can't get Java loaded and > >enabled. Oh sure, the plugins installer SAYS Java was installed, but the browser > >keeps refusing to run anything JAVA(which I NEED cuz that's what the Missus plays > >online...java games) > > So who gets the credit for WASTING my last two nights? Whos the genius? :) > >And who knows how to get JAVA working on a win98se system?? > > > >dave henrie > > Have you tried iRider Dave (www.irider.com)? It's an IE "clone" but I > think it's the best browser going. Especially usefull for viewing > picture sites and the like. I've bought and tried Opera, Mozilla > Firebird and the latest Mozilla but all I use now is iRider. > > -pw > Paul Williamson > Livingston, MT > please use "paulwilliamson at spamcop.net" for e-mail > thanks > > ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- > http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups > ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =---

Interesting Browser, but does it have a built-in newsgroup reader? Right now, I use Netscape for NG reading, but it's too damn unstable (crashes a lot). And I don't like Outlook's NG reader at all.

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> > I'm trying to build a PIII computer with leftover parts for my wife so She won't keep > >moving my wheel on my 'racing' box. It's all up and running but IE6 is constantly locking up and > >acting flakey. If I redload and reinstall it, ie6 will work great..untill I shut the system down, > >then the next time I fire up the machine...ie6 goes haywire again. > > So I saw some mentions here on RAS of Firebird. I've used Mozilla in the past and this looks > >like it's similar. It runs fine, no lockups like ie6. BUT...I can't get Java loaded and > >enabled. Oh sure, the plugins installer SAYS Java was installed, but the browser > >keeps refusing to run anything JAVA(which I NEED cuz that's what the Missus plays > >online...java games) > > So who gets the credit for WASTING my last two nights? Whos the genius? :) > >And who knows how to get JAVA working on a win98se system?? > >dave henrie > Have you tried iRider Dave (www.irider.com)? It's an IE "clone" but I > think it's the best browser going. Especially usefull for viewing > picture sites and the like. I've bought and tried Opera, Mozilla > Firebird and the latest Mozilla but all I use now is iRider. > -pw > Paul Williamson > Livingston, MT > please use "paulwilliamson at spamcop.net" for e-mail > thanks > ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- > http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups > ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =---

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:nY7Vb.26286$fZ6.4312@lakeread06: > You should install, update and run SpyBot 1.2 and CWShredder. > > I'm willing to bet you have Spyware messing with IE. > > -Larry done both...clean...brand new Compusa generic harddrive. Nothing on there. spybot, ad aware, cwshredder AND avg antivirus. It's most likely a something barfed during windows installation. dave henrie

On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 18:38:12 -0500, BRH <"bhoenig<no-spam>"@comcast.net> wrote: >Interesting Browser, but does it have a built-in newsgroup reader? Right now, I use Netscape for NG >reading, but it's too damn unstable (crashes a lot). And I don't like Outlook's NG reader at all. Why on earth do you want a browser with a built in newsgroup reader? Just get a proper newsgroup reader (Agent, Gravity, Xnews.....). -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.