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1968 Grand Prix Season for GPL--a montage of images - 1968.jpg (1/1)

9 posts by 7 people · 29 Nov 1998 - 01 Dec 1998

MeatWater 29 Nov 1998#437415
Two things: 1- you sure did a great job. 2- don't put any f* binaries here!!!!!!!! >1968 patch now available at finer websites worldwide.
Mea***er, Please excuse my ignorance (I'm not the most computer-savvy person around), but every time someone posts a binary, you reply by telling them not to do it again. What's wrong with posting binaries? Michael Lowery
Quoted text (8 lines)> Two things: > 1- you sure did a great job. > 2- don't put any f* binaries here!!!!!!!! > >1968 patch now available at finer websites worldwide.
MeatWater 30 Nov 1998#437605
Hey Michael, If people started posting files whenever they thought others should see/have/use/whatever them it'd take us a whole lotta time to download new messages. While I wouldn't really care too much (I have an ISDN line), there's many others who have slow modems they use just for sending and receiving emails and for newsgroups. It is therefore an (unwritten?) law that binaries shouldn't go here. A common way to share files is to send them directly ON REQUEST. So Nicklaus could have written "hey folks, got a great pic of my new '68 carset. Drop me a line and I'll send it to you". Or upload the file(s) on one of the many servers that offer free webspace (like [link lost in import] 11MB!!!) As you can see there's better ways to spread binaries than in a newsgroup. By the way, there's also special newsgroups for binaries. Just imagine what would happen if someone asked for a patch that's size is about 9MB?? And, at the same time someone else asked for a patch that's 2MB, another one posted some .bmp's of his latest visit to the "Ring"...believe me, some guys out there would spend hours just to download the latest messages. But thanks for your comment. And it wasn't really off topic or ignorant... Mea***er
reason 1 binaries are bad on non-binary ng. Viruses, plain and simple reason 2 binaries are bad on non-binary ng. Many people in Europe, as well as other places i'm sure, must pay for local calls per minute. They will then download an entire NG and read it offline. Downloading a 2meg binary is the last thing someone with a huge phone bill and slow connection wants.
Quoted text (19 lines)>Mea***er, > Please excuse my ignorance (I'm not the most computer-savvy >person around), but every time someone posts a binary, you >reply by telling them not to do it again. What's wrong with >posting binaries? >Michael Lowery >> Two things: >> 1- you sure did a great job. >> 2- don't put any f* binaries here!!!!!!!! >> >1968 patch now available at finer websites worldwide.
Tony Demetr 30 Nov 1998#437607
Another answer to your question would be that some people are really *** about somethings. ;-p Tony (donning flame retardant underwear)
Quoted text (19 lines)>Mea***er, > Please excuse my ignorance (I'm not the most computer-savvy >person around), but every time someone posts a binary, you >reply by telling them not to do it again. What's wrong with >posting binaries? >Michael Lowery >> Two things: >> 1- you sure did a great job. >> 2- don't put any f* binaries here!!!!!!!! >> >1968 patch now available at finer websites worldwide.
Zonky 01 Dec 1998#437782
Quoted text (13 lines)>reason 1 binaries are bad on non-binary ng. >Viruses, plain and simple >reason 2 binaries are bad on non-binary ng. >Many people in Europe, as well as other places i'm sure, must pay for local >calls per minute. They will then download an entire NG and read it offline. >Downloading a 2meg binary is the last thing someone with a huge phone bill >and slow connection wants. >>Mea***er, >> Please excuse my ignorance (I'm not the most computer-savvy >>person around), but every time someone posts a binary, you >>reply by telling them not to do it again. What's wrong with >>posting binaries?
Actually, the last posts are myth's. Any decent newsreader, will download headers only. granted, someone using an offline reader is going to be extremely pissed..... But the real problem is the news server's themselves. Many newsadmin's refuse to carry the load of any binary groups on their server, and will take the extreme step of moving non-binary groups with high binary content. Besides, as pointed out, encoding binaries increases their size hughly- and is the most inefficent way to send and recieve files 8) Besides, i hope no one here would send anyone a file attachement (especially a large one) without first checking it is o.k..... so why would you do the same on a newsgroup? Z.
% Mea***er, % Please excuse my ignorance (I'm not the most computer-savvy % person around), but every time someone posts a binary, you % reply by telling them not to do it again. What's wrong with % posting binaries? There have been many reasons posted in this thread as to why not to post binaries to discussion groups. Basically, this is how Usenet works... The following is from the Introductory FAQ for this newsgroup: o Please do not post large binary files like GIFs, JPEGs, MPEGs or WAVs to rec.autos.simulators. They will fill the Usenet disk partitions at some sites. Some people cannot select which articles they want before they have to download them. Post them to alt.binaries.simulators.autos newsgroup with a short post to rec.autos.simulators to notify anyone who is interested. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
MeatWater 01 Dec 1998#437784
That says about all. Now let's not waste any more time with this topic. Michael E. Carver schrieb in Nachricht ...
Quoted text (14 lines)>The following is from the Introductory FAQ for this newsgroup: > o Please do not post large binary files like GIFs, JPEGs, MPEGs or WAVs > to rec.autos.simulators. They will fill the Usenet disk partitions at > some sites. Some people cannot select which articles they want before > they have to download them. Post them to alt.binaries.simulators.autos > newsgroup with a short post to rec.autos.simulators to notify anyone > who is interested. >-- >**************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* > Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Michael, there are newsgroups for binaries and newsgroups that are not supposed to have binaries in them. There are (at least) two good reasons for this: 1. Before you see any Usenet posting, it has been copied from the poster's server to countless other news servers around the world, including the one you're using. News servers are computers with very large hard disks - but the disk space is not unlimited. The owner of the news server has to pay for the hardware as well as the bits and bytes transmitted though the Internet, and therefore has a right to be able to say: "I don't want binaries on my server. Binaries are huge and should not be transmitted via Usenet. I will not carry any binaries on my server." It is easy *not* to carry specialized binaries newsgroups - it is much harder to spot and eliminate binary postings in discussion newsgroups. Yet, if for example your university somehow finds out that a discussion group contains a lot of binaries, they might decide not to carry that group anymore. 2. Some people (including myself) pay indecent amounts of money to a telecommuncations monopolist for each minute they're connected to the net. Other people pay by the byte. In each case, it's not nice to be forced to download a longer file and pay for it without being asked. The proper way would be to post the binary in question to a binary newsgroup, or, preferably, put it on a website and post a pointer here. -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

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