Furnace Fan Voltage Drop Crashes GPL??

Hi, My computer has crashed while running GPL a few times lately. It seemed to happen on-line mostly, and when I was hosting (sorry people!) especially. At first I though it was because of my over clocking, but, reverting to 300 didn't stop it. I get the blue screen with: "Fatal exception 0D has occurred at 0028:C0004418 in VDX VMM(01) + 00003918" which I find extremely informative. Ha... I've noticed it seems to occur when the furnace fan (that's a big fan that drives warm air for heating the house, for those fortunate enough not to know what it is) kicks in. I think I may be getting a momentary AC voltage drop large enough to effect the computer. It does cause a barely noticeable ripple on my screen too. The computer works fine through it running anything but GPL. Any opinions about whether that would do it? And second, what can I do to stop it? Would a heavy duty surge arrestor do anything? Any help would be appreciated. Kevin Caldwell Calgary, Canada

Kevin, I just had a friend visiting that brought over a Tripplite line conditioner. I then blindly went and bought a Triplight UPS. Then, I went to their website and learned that the higher end UPS has a build in conditioner. I would have bought that instead. Check their site www.tripplite.com they have good info there

If you get electrical variances that big, you should definitely plunk down the cash for a battery backup UPS. I use APC's at work and they are great. I'm sure others are just as good, I just haven't used them. We have horrible power at work and get spikes and drops all the time. Have yet to lose a system running on a UPS. The monster units we have can keep the servers up long enough for us to go over and shut them down gracefully. A little out of our price range for the home, though. For general home use, the model around $99 should be fine. If nothing else it provides you with more consistant power. Don't hook up a laser printer to it, though. They take too much power to make the UPS useful.

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> Hi, > My computer has crashed while running GPL a few times lately. It seemed to > happen on-line mostly, and when I was hosting (sorry people!) especially. At > first I though it was because of my over clocking, but, reverting to 300 > didn't stop it. I get the blue screen with: > "Fatal exception 0D has occurred at 0028:C0004418 in VDX VMM(01) + 00003918" > which I find extremely informative. Ha... > I've noticed it seems to occur when the furnace fan (that's a big fan that > drives warm air for heating the house, for those fortunate enough not to > know what it is) kicks in. I think I may be getting a momentary AC voltage > drop large enough to effect the computer. It does cause a barely noticeable > ripple on my screen too. The computer works fine through it running anything > but GPL. > Any opinions about whether that would do it? And second, what can I do to > stop it? Would a heavy duty surge arrestor do anything? Any help would be > appreciated. > Kevin Caldwell > Calgary, Canada

You can probably find case fans for much less than the furnace fan cost you (and they're much simpler to install). I think a furnace fan is a bit much for your computer's needs. :^/ >Hi, >My computer has crashed while running GPL a few times lately. It seemed to >happen on-line mostly, and when I was hosting (sorry people!) especially. At >first I though it was because of my over clocking, but, reverting to 300 >didn't stop it. I get the blue screen with: >"Fatal exception 0D has occurred at 0028:C0004418 in VDX VMM(01) + 00003918"

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>which I find extremely informative. Ha... >I've noticed it seems to occur when the furnace fan (that's a big fan that >drives warm air for heating the house, for those fortunate enough not to >know what it is) kicks in. I think I may be getting a momentary AC voltage >drop large enough to effect the computer. It does cause a barely noticeable >ripple on my screen too. The computer works fine through it running

anything

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>but GPL. >Any opinions about whether that would do it? And second, what can I do to >stop it? Would a heavy duty surge arrestor do anything? Any help would be >appreciated. >Kevin Caldwell >Calgary, Canada

I concur about the APC products. I bought the home office model, the Back-UPS Office, for about $150 two or three years ago and it's excellent. I see that you can find it online now for $79. It's well worth it. Gives you perfectly clean power all the time, plus it gives you 10 minutes (roughly) to shut down in case of an outage. One caveat: it doesn't automatically shut itself down. Only some APC models do that, but they all AFAIK require a serial connection, which I couldn't spare. Made my monitor work better, too, as it used to cycle on and off once when first turning my machine on. Never does that any more, though. On Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:04:20 -0800, Norman McBride

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>If you get electrical variances that big, you should definitely plunk >down the cash for a battery backup UPS. >I use APC's at work and they are great. I'm sure others are just as >good, I just haven't used them. >We have horrible power at work and get spikes and drops all the time. >Have yet to lose a system running on a UPS. The monster units we have >can keep the servers up long enough for us to go over and shut them down >gracefully. A little out of our price range for the home, though. >For general home use, the model around $99 should be fine. If nothing >else it provides you with more consistant power. Don't hook up a laser >printer to it, though. They take too much power to make the UPS useful. >> Hi, >> My computer has crashed while running GPL a few times lately. It seemed to >> happen on-line mostly, and when I was hosting (sorry people!) especially. At >> first I though it was because of my over clocking, but, reverting to 300 >> didn't stop it. I get the blue screen with: >> "Fatal exception 0D has occurred at 0028:C0004418 in VDX VMM(01) + 00003918" >> which I find extremely informative. Ha... >> I've noticed it seems to occur when the furnace fan (that's a big fan that >> drives warm air for heating the house, for those fortunate enough not to >> know what it is) kicks in. I think I may be getting a momentary AC voltage >> drop large enough to effect the computer. It does cause a barely noticeable >> ripple on my screen too. The computer works fine through it running anything >> but GPL. >> Any opinions about whether that would do it? And second, what can I do to >> stop it? Would a heavy duty surge arrestor do anything? Any help would be >> appreciated. >> Kevin Caldwell >> Calgary, Canada

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Thanks to everyone for all the help. I'll get a UPS. The APC sounds good. Kevin >I concur about the APC products. I bought the home office model, the >Back-UPS Office, for about $150 two or three years ago and it's >excellent. I see that you can find it online now for $79. It's well >worth it. Gives you perfectly clean power all the time, plus it gives >you 10 minutes (roughly) to shut down in case of an outage.

Buy a battery backup system....APC makes some good ones... Mike (TEN ID:mpete) http://www.mnworld.com Mike's Nascar World >Hi, >My computer has crashed while running GPL a few times lately. It seemed to >happen on-line mostly, and when I was hosting (sorry people!) especially. At >first I though it was because of my over clocking, but, reverting to 300 >didn't stop it. I get the blue screen with: >"Fatal exception 0D has occurred at 0028:C0004418 in VDX VMM(01) + 00003918"

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>which I find extremely informative. Ha... >I've noticed it seems to occur when the furnace fan (that's a big fan that >drives warm air for heating the house, for those fortunate enough not to >know what it is) kicks in. I think I may be getting a momentary AC voltage >drop large enough to effect the computer. It does cause a barely noticeable >ripple on my screen too. The computer works fine through it running

anything

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>but GPL. >Any opinions about whether that would do it? And second, what can I do to >stop it? Would a heavy duty surge arrestor do anything? Any help would be >appreciated. >Kevin Caldwell >Calgary, Canada

>Thanks to everyone for all the help. I'll get a UPS. The APC sounds good. >Kevin You might also try a new furnace filter.

Can you borrow, or buy (you should have one anyway) a good APC UPS to test this theory out? -Larry > I've noticed it seems to occur when the furnace fan (that's a big fan that > drives warm air for heating the house, for those fortunate enough not to > know what it is) kicks in. I think I may be getting a momentary AC voltage > drop large enough to effect the computer. It does cause a barely noticeable > ripple on my screen too. The computer works fine through it running anything > but GPL.

I think I would take the house back to the dealer and make them fix it right! I mean a perfectly good house should be able to function while the heat turns on. :-) BTW, I have two APC UPSes at work on my NT servers and the newer one has a log file that tracks the line voltage and tells me how the voltage drops/spikes. It is really nice to know when and what caused the UPS to kick in. Now I just need an extra few hundred dollars to get a USP at home, hmmm maybe after a new computer, hmmm maybe after a new wheel, hmmm maybe after a new . . . SLG Sorry could not hold back!

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>Can you borrow, or buy (you should have one anyway) a good APC UPS to >test this theory out? >-Larry >> I've noticed it seems to occur when the furnace fan (that's a big fan that >> drives warm air for heating the house, for those fortunate enough not to >> know what it is) kicks in. I think I may be getting a momentary AC voltage >> drop large enough to effect the computer. It does cause a barely noticeable >> ripple on my screen too. The computer works fine through it running anything >> but GPL.

(All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new and improved ways of spelling old words. Gramatical errors are due to too many English classes/teachers)

You never know how dirty your power is until you get a UPS. You'll be amazed :) -Larry > BTW, I have two APC UPSes at work on my NT servers and the newer one > has a log file that tracks the line voltage and tells me how the > voltage drops/spikes. It is really nice to know when and what caused > the UPS to kick in. Now I just need an extra few hundred dollars to > get a USP at home, hmmm maybe after a new computer, hmmm maybe after a > new wheel, hmmm maybe after a new . . .