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Grand Touring? Grand pile of shite!

5 posts by 4 people · 27 Nov 1998 - 28 Nov 1998

Paul Simco 27 Nov 1998#436994
Eagerly bought the game today after pre-order 2 weeks ago... "...buckle up for a sensational..." - no! "power sliding" - er...no! "*** burning" - er...well it smells of SOMETHING! "ride of a lifetime" - yeh, sadly MY lifetime! "Grand Tourings unique AI system pits you against REAL THINKING opponents..." - yeh, probably thinking they WISH they'd been involved with Need For Speed III instead! "...boasts the fastest most beautiful PC graphics technology on the planet..." - so WHICH planet...coz they obviously don't have NFSIII, GPL, Screamer Rally, F1RS & of course Motorhead there!!!!! Trust me Ok...with over 15 years of *** experience ...this is CRAP! You can't tell the difference in handling from one car to another....Sure, it looks pretty....but so did MEGARACE - and it handles similarly!!! Don't waste your money - even SEGA RALLY is better than THIS dross!!!!
Jan Kohl 28 Nov 1998#437166
Yeah, Paul, totally agree, although luckily I didn't waste my money, got to try out a demo copy, and it was the worst piece of junk since...well, can't think of another one as bad... Car dynamics totally suck, in 'simulation' mode (I guess this means they are simulating a racing simulation) the car was totally uncontrollable, and had about as much 'road feel' as a log wagon in mud. The wheel (even after being recalibrated multiple times) would go very slightly, then at full lock veer into the fence. Given all my racing experience with simulators, I was unable after about 10 tries to even make it to the first checkpoint. This with a fairly wide track, one slight bend, and another straight stretch. I could have got out of the car and ran down to the first checkpoint faster than driving it... The sound was so bad (running AWE64 w/DirectX 6) that it sounded remenicent of the old Amiga sound with the original car and driver game (forgot what that was called). It was aweful. As bad as F1RS sound is, it had no comparison with this one... The framerate was akin to driving down the road with someone waving a newspaper in front of your face...totally aweful. Granted, I had to run in software mode (Stealth II S220), but I've had no problems with other 3dfx sims, but this one was completely horrible. Probably also had something to do with my 'delayed' wheel lock. I can do better animated gifs than that game. Recommendation? If you see it, run for the hills. Don't stop, just keep running...
>Car dynamics totally suck, in 'simulation' mode (I guess this means they >are simulating a racing simulation) the car was totally uncontrollable, and >had about as much 'road feel' as a log wagon in mud. ... Given all >my racing experience with simulators, I was unable after about 10 tries to even make >it to the first checkpoint. Funny, I was able to win by about my 4th try and basically keep the pedal mashed (well, joystick fully forward) all the way. I agree it is not a sim. But I definitely experienced different control than you. I found it fun for a few go rounds, but nothing I would ever purchase. It was bad, especially the crashes. completely horrible. No problem here (200mmx oc/250, V1). Sounds like your other probs were possibly due to insufficient framerate. running... I won't argue with you there. There are just too many good sims and racing games to bother with this one (note, I'm judging from the demo). Okay, I *will* argue. You ran the game in software mode. Found the graphics, framerate, and control poor. Really all that one can fairly glean from your comments is that it is a dog in software mode. Many games out there now share this. Some don't even run in software mode. Running as most any gamer will, the visuals were good, the framerate fine. The control, even in sim mode, is very unrealistic. I saw no evidence of good AI in the demo. Your Celica wips Vipers to all-out racers. It has a full screen 1st-person view, but no***pit. Fake track (at least in demo). Looks more like a PSX title ported to the PC.
Greg Cisko 28 Nov 1998#437168
>Running as most any gamer will, the visuals were good, the framerate fine. >The control, even in sim mode, is very unrealistic. I saw no evidence of good >AI in the demo. Your Celica wips Vipers to all-out racers. It has a full >screen 1st-person view, but no***pit. Fake track (at least in demo). Looks >more like a PSX title ported to the PC. Is this really Grand Tourismo ported from PSX to the PC? I didn't think it was. Grand Toursimo is pretty cool and does have a front view (right off of your front bumper) which I seem to use as effectively as an incar ***pit view. Grand Touring does seem to try to rip off Grand Tourismo by having similar names... -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com
>Is this really Grand Tourismo ported from PSX to the PC? NO! You were correct :-) So, you have tried it! Well, it is a type of car/racing. There are similarities in looks. Then again, that holds for an awful lot of titles, like the Psygnosis ones. But anyway, that's as far as it goes. Yes, I'd like to see GT come to the PC, so it can be done right :-)

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