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TM Nascar Pro brake modification

2 posts by 2 people · 24 Nov 1998 - 25 Nov 1998

Trips 24 Nov 1998#436243
Just made a modification to the brake pedal on my TM Nascar Pro, and it's working so well that I have to share it... This is sort of along the same lines as the tennis ball mod, but it's working a lot better for me. You'll need a couple of items... a half round file, a single edge razor blade, some double stick tape (I like 3M brand 1/16 thick, but it's probably not critical) and one of those little 25 cent super-balls you see in the vending machines at the supermarket... the ones that are around an inch in diameter. Start by cutting the super ball in half with the razor. Look for the mold line on the ball and cut right on the line. BE CAREFUL with razor blades, PLEASE! Once you've got the ball cut in half, make a little notch in one of the halves. Look at the back of the brake pedal upright, and you'll see a little reinforcement gusset there. The notch in the ball is so it can sit down in the crook of the pedal upright and the little reinforcement won't try to lift it. Put a piece of the double stick tape on the flast face of the ball, and stick it down against the back of the brake pedal upright. Now take the file (or razor blade, if you can be very careful) and take the sharp edge off of the pedal case where the ball makes contact. If you don't do this, the edge of the case will cut the ball up after a few laps of racing. No need to get real fancy here, just knock the sharp edge off. Once that's all done, fire up GPL and go to the calibration screen. Calibrate the steering and throttle in the normal fashion, then calibrate hte brake pedal by pressing to what feels like a reasonable pressure to you for hard braking, and then press a bit harder. Once that's done, you should find that the brake pedal is MUCH easier to modulate than before... you'll press the pedal and feel the resistance of the ball get firmer as the brakes come in harder. PRessing even harder against the ball will start to lock the nreakes. If you find the brakes still lock too easily, go back and recalibrate, but press even harder during calibration. The harder you press in calibration, the harder you can press on the track before locking up the brakes. This mod was worth nearly 5 seconds off my best previous lap time at Kyalami... I went from a 1:28:45 to a 1:23:62 thanks to the better braking feel. Hope this comes in handy for someone... if this description isn't clear enough, let me know... I can put a webpage up with pictures if anyone wants it. Happy racing! Trips
Doc Wyn 25 Nov 1998#436479
>Just made a modification to the brake pedal on my TM Nascar Pro, and >it's working so well that I have to share it... This is sort of along >the same lines as the tennis ball mod, but it's working a lot better for >me. I read this today and did roughly the same thing, but without any extra parts. I also went a few steps further to correct a few things that I felt were causing me fatigue and frustration in longer races. Needed: 1 ft. bungee cord (smaller than the ones that come in the wheel, mine was 1/4" dia., the stuff in the wheel was approx. 3/8" dia.) Lok - Tite thread locking liquid. (1) 5mm x 0.8 (pitch) Allen head cap screw, about 20mm long. (1) #10 internally toothed lockwasher. (2) Nylon "Zip ties" Remove the pedal pads and cover, and I removed the springs from both the gas and brake pedals. If you check the nuts on the pedal pivot shafts, you may find they are way too tight and are binding the pedals up. I loosened the nuts up so that the pedals were free to "flop", and then put Lok - Tite on the nuts and just snugged them down to where they started to drag the pedals, then backed off 1/4 turn. I then re-installed *one* spring per pedal. This makes the pedals much "softer" feeling ...it takes a bit of getting used to, but pressing the pedals no longer tries to tilt the pedal base backwards. Much easier to drive! If you look at the back side of the brake pedal (below where the spring mounts), you'll see a *** pad that serves as the travel stop for the brake pedal. Remove this pad, and cut the width of this pad down a bit. This will be the trial and error part. I ended up with a pad only 1/4 of the width of the original one. The pads have adhesive on them, so if you're careful, you can stick it right back on with no problem. Next, cut out the hole in the cover for the brake pedal to allow you to use the extra travel. I cut mine out an extra 3/8" (just enough so the pedal no longer hits the cover cutout). Screw everything back together and give it a try. Calibrate and see how it feels, much the same way you have done. if the brakes can still be locked up, add a small piece of the cut off portion of the *** pad back on the stop and try again. You want to end up with a nice, soft pedal that allows you maximum braking w/o lockups. The pedal should just start to stiffen up on the pad right before you get to wheel lockup. Next, I went and disassembled the wheel portion of the controller. I cut the zip ties holding the factory bungee in place and removed it. Using the smaller diameter bungee cord, I made a new piece and fastened it into place exactly like TM did originally. From the factory, my Nascar pro only gave me about 210 deg. of wheel travel, as the bungee cord was very taut and was at it limit of stretch long before the wheel ran out of travel. it was also very stiff past 60 deg. off center, making "sawing" on the wheel (Zandvoort?) very tiring. With the new, smaller bungee, the wheel gives me a full 270 deg. of travel and is much easier on the arms, taking much less effort to pitch the car around. Finally, I removed the Phillips head***holding the wheel to the steering shaft and replaced it with the Allen head***and lockwasher...also with a dab of Lok - Tite. The Allen***allowed me to really torque it down, lessening the chance that the***will work it's way loose mid-race and start the wheel to wobbling...a problem I've had with this wheel since it was a month old. It seems that when the wheel is loose on the shaft I also have move play in the shaft itself, so this cures both of my problems at one time. Hope these "fixes" help some of you as much as they have me...and thanks to Trips for the inspiration to finally get off my a** and fix this thing that's been driving me nuts for a month or more now. See you on course! Doc phRed '95 - CSP #25 Team Monster Miata Stereo -- Never a late apex, never a dull moment.

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