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NASCAR Silicon Motor Speedway.

9 posts by 7 people · 22 Nov 1998 - 24 Nov 1998

Greg Cisko 22 Nov 1998#435941
If you are not familiar with this, check [link lost in import] in a suburb of Chicago, and do modem racing with N2 (Now it will be NR1999) with a friend. He heard about the Nascar Silicon Motor Speedway at the Woodfield mall (about 20-25 miles away). So last thursday we took a day of vacation (we work at the same place) and went to check it out. This speedway is a computer simulation/game where up to 20 human drivers can race around C***te or Richmond. The game engine is based on the 3dfx chipset, and the game was written by people in their head quarters (not papy :-). There are 20 different cars you can drive. Each one is suspended by cables and hydraulics and give a very realistic Forcefeedback effect (I ended up with a bruise on my back). Each car is painted like the real thing, and all are representations of their real Winston Cup counterparts (I drove Dale's #3 the whole day). Each car has 2 seats, a switch to start the engines, a real gear shifter and a clutch. The cars are metal and the tires look like real Nascar rims and tires. The driving model is so good that you only need the clutch for 1st gear. Also I stalled on a banked turn and put in the clutch, shifted to 1st and popped the clutch as I started to roll down hill. The engine started without throwing the switch :-) The default track is C***te and you can run Richmond on Wednesdays if you qualify. To qualify, you need to do better than 30.5 secs per lap at C***te. My buddy & I qualified for Richmond on our first race :-) The cost is $8.50 for a 12 lap race. You can get a dollar off each race if you become a member. Membership cost $5 so it is worth it IMHO. It is interesting to note that many of the Nascar drivers are on the board of directors of this company (or something like that). The ForceFeedback effects are so strong that it really takes about 30 minutes to recover after each race (until you become adjusted to it). The racing itself was great fun. The sensation of speed was 100x better than any computer game. I'll probably go back at some point, but if you live near one of these places, it is definitely work checking out. They even have leagues! -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com
Mike Dun 22 Nov 1998#435942
Greg, I heard there is one in phoenix Arizona. I might just drive 4 hrs just too go play this. I live in southern Ca and it does sound like fun! Mike
Mike Dun 22 Nov 1998#435943
Greg, Scratch that!! Its just down the road..Iam off to Irvine tomorow!! Mike
Ken Beard 23 Nov 1998#436176
>Greg, >Scratch that!! Its just down the road..Iam off to Irvine tomorow!! >Mike Now if they'll just build one here in NASCAR Country.... I can see one somewhere near the real C***te Motor Speedway with some of the rabid folks we have here, they'd make a fortune! -- Ken Go #43 and #44 "If I went 'round claiming I was Emperor because some moistened bink lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away" - Peasant volksy (at) geocities (dot) com volksy (at) yahoo (dot) com
Bill Mette 24 Nov 1998#436385
Quoted text (8 lines)>If you are not familiar with this, check http://www.smsonline.com/. I live >in >a suburb of Chicago, and do modem racing with N2 (Now it will be >NR1999) with a friend. He heard about the Nascar Silicon Motor Speedway >at the Woodfield mall (about 20-25 miles away). So last thursday we took >a day of vacation (we work at the same place) and went to check it out. >Each one is suspended by cables and hydraulics and give a very realistic >Forcefeedback effect (I ended up with a bruise on my back). Each car
I've stopped by the SMS in Woodfield as well. I didn't drive, but I watched for quite a while. Everything looked pretty good. Except for one thing. Why on Earth do the cars lean to the right when they're on the banking? Is it a visual effect for the driver? From outside the cars, it's totally oposite the way it should be. -Bill -- Bill Mette | "A person is smart. People are dumb." MCSNet, Chicago | - K MiB
Pat Dotson 24 Nov 1998#436386
> I've stopped by the SMS in Woodfield as well. I didn't drive, but I > watched for quite a while. Everything looked pretty good. Except for one > thing. Why on Earth do the cars lean to the right when they're on the > banking? Is it a visual effect for the driver? From outside the cars, > it's totally oposite the way it should be. In real life, when you are turning left, inertia is pulling your body to the right, and you are stuck against the right side of the car. In an SMS car, of course, you aren't really moving at all. To simulate the inertial forces pulling you to the right during a left turn, the car has to lean to the right and let gravity pull you down. While it looks odd to an outside viewer, the driver's internal coordinate system is tuned into the inside of the car and what is seen on the screen. The driver will "feel" like he is leaning to the left, because he sees the left- hand banking of the track. -- Pat Dotson IMPACT Motorsports http://www.impactmotorsports.com/pd.html
Wade T 24 Nov 1998#436387
Hi Bill, It's not a visual they're after, rather a G-Force feedback that is being simulated here. Imagine making a hard left turn in your car, your body tries to slide to the right, with whatever force pushing back & "IN" on your right side. At first at Silicon Speedway, I felt that the hydraulic car-FF was over exaggerated, but as I got better & smoother the FF got less choppy & started to be of some value to my senses. Still didn't qualify for the 3DFX Cup though :-(, had good enough times in solo Hot-Laps, but not with other traffic around :-( You think pick-up races on TEN are bad :-0!?! Happy Lappin', Wade Tschida
Larry 24 Nov 1998#436388
I would think to simulate G-forces on the right side of the body? -Larry > I've stopped by the SMS in Woodfield as well. I didn't drive, but I > watched for quite a while. Everything looked pretty good. Except for one > thing. Why on Earth do the cars lean to the right when they're on the > banking? Is it a visual effect for the driver? From outside the cars, > it's totally oposite the way it should be.
Bill Mette 24 Nov 1998#436389
> I've stopped by the SMS in Woodfield as well. I didn't drive, but I >watched for quite a while. Everything looked pretty good. Except for one >thing. Why on Earth do the cars lean to the right when they're on the >banking? Is it a visual effect for the driver? From outside the cars, >it's totally oposite the way it should be. Thanks for the replies all. As usual, the technogeek in me was thinking more about what the car should be experiencing instead of the driver. -Bill -- Bill Mette | "A person is smart. People are dumb." MCSNet, Chicago | - K MiB

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