NR2003 - AI pace at track types?

Hi all, I've recently had a wee bit more time to spend simming and have used it to get myself back up to speed with NR2003 by starting a season or 2 against the AI, for now. Having discarded several seasons for the AI being too slow I am now about a 3rd of the way through a season with the AI set at 96%, but have the auto adjusting setting OFF for the AI. Now, what I'm finding is that, depending on the track type, the AI ability varies compared to my own ability and wondered if others here had also noticed anything similar. NOTE: I'm using the FAST SETUPS for all sessions unless where stated, but my own findings are: Short Track: Mid-pack on qualifying, but struggle to hang on to them during the race and tyres go off quicker than their's, but that could just be a bad setup. Speedways: Up either on poll or near front in qualifying and can kick their butts in the race. SuperSpeedways: Not a chance with fast setups for qualifying obviously. Have had to go over to Jasper setups for the race otherwise I just drift off the back. Still to try the road courses. Like I say, there appears to be a general trend depending on the track type, but it could just be that I'm more geared towards speedways than the other 2 types of courses. If others have found this, then it may be time to start adjusting AI performance levels down a bit depending on type of track, but if it's me then I'm just going to have to work on my driving style. Cheers in advance. -- Peter Ives (AKA Pete Ivington) Remove ALL_STRESS before replying via email If you know what's good for you, don't listen to me :) GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -25.01

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> NOTE: I'm using the FAST SETUPS for all sessions unless where stated, > but my own findings are: > > Short Track: Mid-pack on qualifying, but struggle to hang on to them > during the race and tyres go off quicker than their's, but that could > just be a bad setup. > > Speedways: Up either on poll or near front in qualifying and can kick > their butts in the race. > > SuperSpeedways: Not a chance with fast setups for qualifying obviously. > Have had to go over to Jasper setups for the race otherwise I just drift > off the back. > > Still to try the road courses. > > Like I say, there appears to be a general trend depending on the track > type, but it could just be that I'm more geared towards speedways than > the other 2 types of courses. If others have found this, then it may be > time to start adjusting AI performance levels down a bit depending on > type of track, but if it's me then I'm just going to have to work on my > driving style. >

I assume that you have the "adaptive speed control" set to "off". I believe that the AI cars run with you to some extent much like GPL. I generally set the AI strength 1 or 2 % higher than my abilities or setups in order to oush myself and gain speed from somewhere. If you are running the patched version, go over to http://www.onlineracin.com/pwf/ and get their setups for all the tracks and different series. They are a little better and more stable than the "fast" or "jasper" setups included in the retail version of the sim. Hope this helps, Timmy

In article <Sk9Wb.14850$[email hidden]>, Timmy Ferrell <[email hidden]> writes

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> >> NOTE: I'm using the FAST SETUPS for all sessions unless where stated, >> but my own findings are: >> >> Short Track: Mid-pack on qualifying, but struggle to hang on to them >> during the race and tyres go off quicker than their's, but that could >> just be a bad setup. >> >> Speedways: Up either on poll or near front in qualifying and can kick >> their butts in the race. >> >> SuperSpeedways: Not a chance with fast setups for qualifying obviously. >> Have had to go over to Jasper setups for the race otherwise I just drift >> off the back. >> >> Still to try the road courses. >> >> Like I say, there appears to be a general trend depending on the track >> type, but it could just be that I'm more geared towards speedways than >> the other 2 types of courses. If others have found this, then it may be >> time to start adjusting AI performance levels down a bit depending on >> type of track, but if it's me then I'm just going to have to work on my >> driving style. >> > I assume that you have the "adaptive speed control" set to "off".

Yep, its set to off. Forgot what it was called and said 'auto adjusting' in my original post. >I believe >that the AI cars run with you to some extent much like GPL. > I generally set the AI strength 1 or 2 % higher than my abilities or >setups in order to oush myself and gain speed from somewhere. That's kinda similar to what I'm trying to do. However, if I up the AI strength to extend myself at the Speedways, I'm going to be way off the pace at the Short Tracks and Superspeedways. Having said that, I don't want to start messing with the settings on the tracks I'm struggling at if I am just plain bad at them. If I know that I'm poor at those tracks at the moment then I'm prepared to work at it that little harder to try to get myself up to speed. If I mess with the tracks settings in order to bring their pace down to mine, despite the fact that I need to work more on my craft, then I'm less likely to push myself. If the AI is just different depending on type of track then I'm prepared to mess with the track settings to balance things out, knowing that it's not my driving that is off. > If you are running the patched version, go over to >http://www.onlineracin.com/pwf/ and get their setups for all the tracks and >different series. They are a little better and more stable than the "fast" >or "jasper" setups included in the retail version of the sim. I am running the patched version, but the reason I'm trying to stick with the fast setup - with default weather BTW - is because I still hope to compete in RASCAR. So, though I could improve things by getting more stable setups, they would be of no use for RASCAR races. -- Peter Ives (AKA Pete Ivington) Remove ALL_STRESS before replying via email If you know what's good for you, don't listen to me :) GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -25.01

"Peter Ives" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <Sk9Wb.14850$[email hidden]>, Timmy Ferrell > <[email hidden]> writes <snip>

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> > If you are running the patched version, go over to > >http://www.onlineracin.com/pwf/ and get their setups for all the tracks and > >different series. They are a little better and more stable than the "fast" > >or "jasper" setups included in the retail version of the sim. > > I am running the patched version, but the reason I'm trying to stick > with the fast setup - with default weather BTW - is because I still > hope to compete in RASCAR. So, though I could improve things by getting > more stable setups, they would be of no use for RASCAR races. > --

Pete, AFAIK, in RASCAR, we are going to use the "expert" Cup setups Tim refers to from the PWF link above, not the "fast" setups that came w/ NR2003. See: http://www.schuerkamp.de/zope/rascar/news , & check the forum. HTH, -Brian

Yes AI strength varies from track to track. That is the benifiet of the auto AI %. It sets your AI% based on your previous races. The downfall is that for some reason Papy set the default % at 70% so it needs some races to get it cranked up to where it should. However you can go into your playerrec.ini file and edit the value. MadDAWG